
The Growth Hub Podcast
The podcast for all things B2B SaaS marketing is brought to you by marketing agency Advance B2B.
The Growth Hub Podcast is for SaaS marketers, CEOs, and founders who want to increase their knowledge, skills, and wisdom about building a high-growth SaaS business.
With a mix of strategic frameworks, actionable insights, and inspiring tales, we catch up with some of the top minds in SaaS from across the world to gain their insight and advice on all things growth.
Latest episodes

Aug 30, 2020 • 35min
Molly Norris Walker - Head of Design at InfluxData - Smash Growth Goals with Design Experimentation
Molly Norris Walker is Head of Design & User Research at InfluxData. Today we’re talking about how to smash your growth targets through design experimentation.
A big part of Molly’s role is scaling design experimentation for a better UX to support growth, which is something Molly calls Growth Design. Molly not only practices this on a day-to-day basis within the world of B2B SaaS but she is also author of Design-Driven Growth: Strategy & Case Studies For Product Shapers.
In this episode, Molly discusses:
- Why growth design is super important in B2B
- The relationship between growth design and product-led growth
- A 5-step framework for implementing growth design
- How you can design growth loops into your SaaS business model
- A growth design AB-Test challenge
Links
InfluxData >> https://www.influxdata.com/
Design-Driven Growth: https://www.design-driven-growth.com/
Design-Driven Growth: Strategy & Case Studies For Product Shapers >> https://www.amazon.com/UX-Design-Growth-optimize-conversion-ebook/dp/B07BYX1GY8
Lex Roman on Medium >> https://medium.com/@calexity
GrowthDesigners.Co >> https://growthdesigners.co/
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Aug 22, 2020 • 33min
Wes Bush - Principal at Product-Led Institute - How To Turn Your SaaS Product Into A Growth Engine
Wes Bush is Principal at Product-Led Institute and today we’re talking about how to turn your product into a growth engine.
Wes is the bestselling author of "Product-Led Growth: How To Build a Product That Sells Itself" and is also founder of Product-Led Summit, so Wes lives and breathes all things product-led in the world of SaaS.
In this episode Wes shares his expertise with us as we cover:
- How to align perceived and experienced value
- An in-depth walkthrough of his bowling-alley framework for better onboarding
- The components of a product-led marketing strategy
- Why product-led growth is a team sport
- And some examples of great product-led growth in SaaS
Links
Product-Led Institute >> https://productled.com/
Product-Led Summit >> https://summit.productled.com/
Product-Led Growth: How To Build a Product That Sells Itself by Wes Bush >> https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/46033247-product-led-growth
How to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie >> https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4865.How_to_Win_Friends_and_Influence_People
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Jul 5, 2020 • 45min
Alina Benny - SEO & Content Lead at Nextiva - How To Acquire High-Intent Traffic That Converts
Alina Benny is SEO & Content Lead at Nextiva. In this episode we’re talking about how to create content that acquires high-intent traffic that converts.
Alina and the Nextiva demand gen team have grown blog traffic by 500% through a combination of hard work, consistency, and a set of high-quality, systematic SEO and content practices. Alina breaks down all these processes and frameworks, including:
- How to do keyword research
- A 5-step framework for planning and outlining articles
- 3 tips for better writing
- Ways to avoid making your content difficult to read
- A comprehensive review and editing process
- How to work with freelancers effectively
- How to overcome content decay
Links
Nextiva >> https://www.nextiva.com/
The Silent Patient by Alex Michaelides >> https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/40097951-the-silent-patient
Kevin Indig's Newsletter, Tech Bound >> https://www.kevin-indig.com/tech-bound/
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Jun 14, 2020 • 40min
Tim Soulo - CMO at Ahrefs - Getting To +$50M ARR & +65% YoY Growth by Ditching Expert Advice
Tim Soulo is CMO at Ahrefs and in this episode we’re talking about the amazing story of how Ahrefs got to +$50M in ARR with +65% year-on-year growth by ditching expert advice and embracing unconventional wisdom.
The Ahrefs story is nothing short of incredible and they seemingly came out of nowhere to take on heavyweights like Moz and SEMrush in the SEO space. In this episode Tim explains how they did it and he also opens up on their marketing strategy, content playbook, and how they were able to achieve such impressive hypergrowth.
Links
Ahrefs >> https://ahrefs.com/
Why We Charge $7 for Our 7-day Trial Vlog >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09avD7Y4xpc
Bitcoin Billionaires by Ben Mezrich >> https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/41433284-bitcoin-billionaires
The Accidental Billionaires by Ben Mezrich >> https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6326920-the-accidental-billionaires
Influence: The Psychology of Persuasion
by Robert B. Cialdini >> https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/28815.Influence
How to Win Friends and Influence People
by Dale Carnegie >> https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4865.How_to_Win_Friends_and_Influence_People
Intercom on Starting Up >> https://www.intercom.com/resources/books/intercom-starting-up
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Jun 4, 2020 • 31min
Matt Epstein - CMO at Rippling - SaaS Marketing Is Broken: How To Get More Creative With Marketing
Matt Epstein is CMO at Rippling and today we’re talking about why SaaS marketing is broken and how you can get more creative.
Matt is not known for doing things traditionally and in this episode he breaks down a bunch of his creative marketing exploits, including:
- How to fish in new ponds
- How Rippling slashed 50% of their marketing budget but still got 80% of the demos
- Running an outbound pizza party campaign
- Getting a cease and desist order from a competitor following a billboard campaign
- Testing and perfecting messaging with outbound campaigns
- How to run outdoor campaigns
- How to build a creative marketing team and foster a culture of creativity
- How Matt spent almost all his life savings on a campaign to land a job at Google
Links
Rippling >> https://www.rippling.com/
Behind The Cloud >> https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6659874-behind-the-cloud
The Orange Code >> https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3328401-the-orange-code?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=4KcRXV46no&rank=1
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May 19, 2020 • 41min
Adam Rogers - Content Marketer at Shopify - How To Scale Up Content Marketing
Adam Rogers is a Content Marketer at Shopify and in this episode he talks to us about how SaaS marketing teams can scale up content marketing.
Before working at Shopify, Adam was a content marketing team of one at Kayako where he was competing with the likes of Intercom, Zendesk, and Helpscout, and Adam shares his stories and advice of how you can build an efficient and effective content marketing unit that will let you take on your competition. In addition, Adam talks about:
- Understanding the why behind your content
- Why you should focus on longer form evergreen content
- How you can be savvy with resources to scale up production of this time consuming content
- Tips on ensuring quality when scaling
- Why and how to work with agency and freelance partners
- How to manage your content marketing operations
Links
Shopify Blog >> https://www.shopify.com/blog
Kayako Blog >> https://www.kayako.com/blog
Badass: Making Users Awesome by Kathy Sierra >> https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/24737268-badass
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May 11, 2020 • 28min
Marc McDougall - CRO Specialist - Hidden Opportunities for SaaS Companies In An Economic Downturn
Marc McDougall is a CRO Specialist at Clarity First and in this episode he joins us to talk about hidden opportunities for SaaS companies during an economic recession.
In 2011, Ben Horowitz wrote his famous article titled Peacetime CEO/Wartime CEO, which outlined how company leaders should change their approach depending on whether they’re enjoying good times of market growth or dealing with tough times caused by external challenges. Right now we’re operating in war time, so what should marketing teams do to get through and overcome a downturn?
Marc has identified four opportunities for SaaS companies, which are:
- Positioning & Value
- Churn Reduction
- Cost Reduction
- Marketing Effectiveness
Marc also provides different examples throughout of how SaaS companies have switched up their marketing strategies and playbooks to help weather the storm.
Links
Don't Make Me Think >> https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18197267-don-t-make-me-think-revisited
Reddit, SaaS & Startups >> https://www.reddit.com/r/SaaS+startups
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Mar 16, 2020 • 35min
Kevan Lee - VP Marketing at Buffer - Running A High-Performance Remote SaaS Marketing Team
Kevan Lee is VP of Marketing at Buffer and in this episode we’re talking about how to run a successful remote SaaS marketing team.
🚨 Please note this interview was recorded well before the Covid-19 outbreak, but given the situation and that many SaaS companies are moving to fully remote operations, we hope you find this episode helpful 🙏
In this episode, Kevan discusses:
- How to do strategic planning on an annual and quarterly basis using a framework called BETS
- What a typical remote week looks like at Buffer
- How their marketing team runs across 5 continents
- The tools and tech stack Buffer uses
- How to overcome challenges such as loneliness
- How to manage individuals remotely when you don’t meet face to face
Links
Buffer >> https://buffer.com
Alchemy by Rory Sutherland >> https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/26210508-alchemy
Demand Curve Newsletter >> https://www.demandcurve.com/newsletter
Product Habits Newsletter >> https://producthabits.com/blog/
Marketing Example Newsletter >> https://marketingexamples.com/
Follow Kevan on Twitter >> https://twitter.com/kevanlee
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Mar 13, 2020 • 26min
Guillaume Moubeche - Founder & CEO at Lemlist - How To Rapidly Find Product-Market Fit & Scale
Guillaume Moubeche is CEO & Founder of Lemlist, Lempod, and Lemtalk. In this episode we’re talking about how SaaS companies can find product-market fit and scale.
Guillaume has launched three SaaS companies and grown them to $1M ARR without any funding. In this episode Guillaume shares:
- Frameworks his team use to validate product ideas and test product market fit
- How Lemlist reduced their high churn numbers soon after launching
- Tests you can run to prove you have, or don’t have, product market fit
- The tactics Guillaume and his team use to rapidly scale post product market fit
Links
Lemlist >> https://www.lemlist.com/
Lempod >> https://lempod.com/en/home
Lemtalk >> https://lemtalk.com/en/home
Predictably Irrational >> https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1713426.Predictably_Irrational
Follow Guillaume on Twitter >> https://twitter.com/guillaumembh
Growth Hackers >> https://growthhackers.com/posts
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Feb 9, 2020 • 32min
Liz Elfman - Inbound Marketer at Toggl - How To Make OKRs Work For Your SaaS Marketing Team
OKRs are a management framework to help companies and teams align behind key business objectives. Liz Elfman is a former Googler, instructor at General Assembly, and an expert on OKRs and in this episode she'll explain how you can make OKRs work for you to improve the results of your SaaS marketing team.
We cover:
- Aligning OKRs between marketing and the rest of your company
- A simple way to frame OKRs
- Examples of what good OKRs look like
- How to track and grade OKRs
- Team Vs Individual OKRs
- OKRs and bonus programs
- How Liz and her team use OKRs at Toggl
- OKR dos & don'ts
Links
Toggl >> https://toggl.com/
Measure What Matters >> https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/41956823-measure-what-matters
What Matters >> https://www.whatmatters.com/
OKR Examples >> https://okrexamples.co/
Nobody Wants to Read Your Sh*t >> https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/30556551-nobody-wants-to-read-your-sh-t
Imperica Newsletter >> https://www.imperica.com/en/newsletter
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