

Marketing For Learning®
Marketing for Learning
The only podcast in the world that’s going to help you better understand marketing for learning® fundamentals and help you tackle your learner engagement problem once and for all! Hosted by Ashley Hinchcliffe and Hannah Clark, this podcast comprises of short bursts of learning and insights to help you embrace marketing tactics, strategies and thinking.
Marketing for learning.
It’s our business.
www.maas-marketing.co.uk
Marketing for learning.
It’s our business.
www.maas-marketing.co.uk
Episodes
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Feb 12, 2025 • 54min
S1:E3: Transforming Employee Experience Through Learning With Georgie Cooke
In this fantastic ep, Ash and Georgie Cooke dive into the crucial link between employee experience and L&D, covering everything from culture and management to learning opportunities. They explore why audience insights matter, how to personalise learning, and the necessity of aligning L&D with business goals. The conversation also tackles blended learning, accessibility, and the challenges of measuring impact, urging L&D to rethink success beyond just engagement metrics.
Links:
Georgie Cooke's LinkedIn
Lima Delta's website
Ash's LinkedIn
Our Strategic Marketing Course

Jan 29, 2025 • 39min
S1:E2 - Engaging Stakeholders: The Secret to Proving Impact
In the second episode of our series "From Training to Transformation: Redefining L&D’s Role" Ash and Han delve into the critical role of stakeholders in transforming L&D from a cost centre to a strategic business partner.
This ep is jam-packed with practical tips and insights including:
Why it is critically important for L&D to align to the business goals.
How you can engage with senior leaders and find out the crucial insights needed for success.
The power of shifting from a training-needs mindset, to a performance-needs approach.
Whether you're a seasoned L&D pro or just starting your career, this episode will challenge you to think differently about how L&D can truly serve as a driver of business success. Happy listening!
LINKS:
Strategic Marketing for L&D Programme
Ash's LinkedIn
Han's LinkedIn

Jan 22, 2025 • 57min
S1:E1: From Data to Impact: Redefining L&D’s Value with Derek Mitchell
New Series! From Training To Transformation: Redefining L&D’s Role.
We're so excited to announce our new multi-episode podcast series on L&D transformation. Our first episode kicks off with Derek Mitchell, Analytics Partner at Novo Nordisk.
In this episode Derek discusses the critical role of data in L&D. He emphasises using data to proactively identify training needs, personalise communications, and measure the impact of learning initiatives. He also highlights the importance of moving beyond traditional metrics like course completions to focus on performance, skills growth, and behaviour change.
It's a fantastic episode, and definitely sets the scene for this crucial series!
Links:
Derek's LinkedIn
Ashley's LinkedIn
Strategic Marketing for L&D Course

Dec 13, 2024 • 46min
Ep 109 - Merry Marketing! Our 2024 Reflections
Grab your tissues... because this is the final time you'll hear from Ash & Han in 2024! 😢 But indulge us in an episode of reflections on the crazy year that was 2024. From their personal highlights (did they mention 2 weddings & a baby?!), they also share their highlights from L&D in 2024, and look ahead to a very exciting 2025.
See you on the other side, our dear Marketing For Learning friends 🍍

Dec 6, 2024 • 22min
Ep 108 - 2025 L&D Trends: Why 'Audience First' Should Always Top The List
What are the big L&D trends of 2025? Well we don't know... but Han asked Chat GPT, and unsurprisingly she didn't like it's answer. So in this episode Han discusses the 'trends' we see year after year, and what she thinks should be the trend of 2025.

Dec 2, 2024 • 3min
🍍 10% Off Our Strategic Marketing Course 🍍
For all you lifelong, lucky listeners we're giving you 10% off our new 'Strategic Marketing for L&D Leaders' course, which kicks off on March 5th, 2025. It's our Masterclass, but it's getting a facelift and a much bigger emphasis on strategic marketing. Lots more information on our website if you want it.
If you want a 10% off voucher, just message Ash on LinkedIn and tell her you want to join the #PineappleArmy. We'll do the rest!
P.S. Sorry for the weird promo - normal service resumes next week!

Nov 22, 2024 • 17min
Ep 107 - Proving L&D's Value: Why You Have To Ditch Assumptions
Does everybody just know the value of L&D? That's what most learning professionals seem to think. And shock... Han disagrees.
It's time L&D stopped assuming everybody knows our value... now is the time to prove it. In this episode, Han is going to cover:
The danger of assumptions.
Why data is your best friend.
Why it's time to own our craft and align with the business goals.
If you’re ready to step up, take ownership, and do something different. This is the ep for you.
Happy listening friendos 🍍
LINKS:
Data in L&D: An interview with NilesNolen
Data, Analytics and Testing in marketing for learning®
Data-led marketing at Novo Nordisk with Peter Manniche Riber

Nov 15, 2024 • 39min
Ep 106 - The Role Of Internal Comms In Marketing For Learning
When we mutter the phrase "internal comms" to many of our clients, we see them shudder. "Do we have to get them involved? They're always a blocker to our plans!" We've heard it all before...
So in this ep, Ash and Han address why internal comms *must* be involved in your marketing for learning initiatives, and how to make the whole thing smoother.
Happy listening guys!
LINKS:
Internal comms, friend or foe?

Oct 27, 2024 • 43min
Ep 105 - Sunday Surgery With AMICULUM - Doing More With What You Have
Welcome to the 2nd edition of our Sunday Surgery - our brand new feature on the Marketing for Learning pod. These episodes are designed to help real L&Ders tackle their real challenges in a free consultancy session with Ash and Han.
In this session Vesta Charleshouse, Learning Coordinator at AMICULUM (and marketing for learning masterclass alumni!) joins Han to discuss getting more from what she has with her marketing approaches.
From casting the net wider with influencers, to using MailChimp for email marketing, this episode is a juicy one.
Oh also, if you want to come on the Surgery and get a free consultancy session with Han or Ash, just email us at hello@maas-marketing.co.uk. It's completely free, it'll just cost you the time a recording takes!
NOTES:
Vesta’s LinkedIn
Han’s LinkedIn
Come on our surgery: hello@maas-marketing.co.uk

Oct 18, 2024 • 11min
Ep 104 - Making Movements In L&D
Discover how to spark movements in Learning and Development by empowering individuals to take charge of their own learning. The conversation emphasizes the role of authentic advocacy and influencer marketing in enhancing growth. Relinquishing control can unleash creativity and innovation, making learning initiatives more impactful. Tune in for inspiring insights on championing personal and organizational development through collaboration!