

MAFFEO DRINKS
Chris Maffeo
The MAFFEO DRINKS Podcast is a leading drinks industry podcast delivering frontline insights for drinks leadership.
For founders, directors, distributor MDs, and hospitality leaders navigating the tension between bottom-up reality and top-down expectations.
20+ years building brands across 30+ markets. Each episode features drinks builders: founders, distributors, commercial directors, sharing how the drinks industry actually works. Not the conference version. Honest conversations.
Insights come from sitting at the bar.
Beyond episodes: advisory for leadership teams, subscription with episode deep dives and principles to navigate your own reality.
Beer, wine, spirits, Low and non-alcoholic.
Bottom-up Insights & Episode Deep Dives at https://maffeodrinks.com
For founders, directors, distributor MDs, and hospitality leaders navigating the tension between bottom-up reality and top-down expectations.
20+ years building brands across 30+ markets. Each episode features drinks builders: founders, distributors, commercial directors, sharing how the drinks industry actually works. Not the conference version. Honest conversations.
Insights come from sitting at the bar.
Beyond episodes: advisory for leadership teams, subscription with episode deep dives and principles to navigate your own reality.
Beer, wine, spirits, Low and non-alcoholic.
Bottom-up Insights & Episode Deep Dives at https://maffeodrinks.com
Episodes
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Mar 19, 2024 • 39min
052 | How a Crystal-Clear Target Occasion Helps you Stand Out in the Busiest Market for Your Category | Part 1/2 with Justin Medcraft, Founder of Mate Maker (Los Angeles, CA, USA)
Episode Deep-Dive Analysis Available at maffeodrinks.com In Episode 52, I enjoyed chatting with Justin Medcraft, the Founder of Mate Maker Hard Kombucha.
He brings a wealth of previous experience in Spirits and Beer. We discussed how to build demand for a start-up drinks brand, stand out amongst a sea of products, and focus on building momentum.
I hope you will enjoy our chat.
One last thing: If you enjoy this podcast, you will also like the MAFFEO DRINKS Guides. You can subscribe free or paid on maffeodrinks.com
Time Stamps
0:00 Introduction
2:04 Building Demand
3:49 Building Community: Brand Or Liquid?
6:15 Mate Maker Elevator Pitch
11:26 The Consumer Pitch
13:07 The Ring Road
19:39 Determining Direction
26:05 Home Turf Advantage
35:09 Growing Beyond Your Hometown
38:01 Outro
About The Host: Chris Maffeo
About The Guest: Justin Medcraft
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Mar 12, 2024 • 29min
051 | Mastering Unscalable Things to Drive Scale: Diary of a Drinks Builder obsessed about details | Part 2/2 with Ilias Mastrogiannis (Seattle, WA, USA)
Episode Deep-Dive Analysis Available at maffeodrinks.com In Episode 051, I continued the conversation with Ilias Mastrogiannis from Episode 050 so feel free to listen to that as well. I hope you will enjoy our chat
Time Stamps
0:00 Intro
0:15 Winning Large Retailers
5:28 Securing The Foundation
8:34 Non-Scalable Tasks
13:31 1% Better Everyday
17:57 The Necessity of Obsession
25:07 Wrap Up
27:24 Outro
About The Host: Chris Maffeo
About The Guest: Ilias Mastrogiannis
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Mar 5, 2024 • 32min
050 | Ponds, Lakes, Oceans: How to Master The Basics From Distilling to Selling Bottles | Part 1/2 with Ilias Mastrogiannis (Seattle, WA, USA)
Episode Deep-Dive Analysis Available at maffeodrinks.com In Episode 050 I had the pleasure of chatting with Ilias Mastrogiannis. He is the Founder of Distillery Nation Podcast and Mastrogiannis Winery and Distillery, based in Washington State, inspired by Greek tradition. I hope you will enjoy our chat.
Time Stamps
0:00 Intro
0:51 Ilias' Podcast
3:59 Building Demand
5:30 Starting Product
6:46 Traditional Vs Modern Occasions
10:38 Ring Road of Messaging
16:23 Event Driven Messaging
20:26 Event Specialized Products
24:25 Dusty Vs Vibrant Categories
28:22 Primacy of Cocktail List?
30:52 Outro
About The Host: Chris Maffeo
About The Guest: Ilias Mastrogiannis
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Feb 27, 2024 • 34min
049 | Stephanie Jordan | Taking Sustainability from Niche to Scale with Avallen: Working with Bars and Distributors as an Ecosystem
Episode Deep-Dive Analysis Available at maffeodrinks.com In Episode 049 I continued the conversation with Stephanie Jordan from Episode 048. She is the Co-Founder of B-Corp Avallen Calvados. She brings fantastic insights as he runs her Sales & Marketing Consultancy, Drinking Out Loud. Before that, she ran Sales & Global Advocacy for la Hechicera Rum and was the Global Brand Ambassador for Tanqueray Gin after starting her career in drinks on the Global Diageo graduate scheme. I hope you will enjoy our chat.Time Stamps0:00 Intro0:14 Sustainable Packaging9:36 Selecting Sustainable Outlets?13:18 Role Of An Importer16:10 Ensuring Wholesaler Rotation20:00 Big Fish Small Pond, Small Fish Big Pond?23:19 Biggest Professional Change Becoming A Founder?31:38 Wrap-Up33:12 OutroAbout The Host: Chris MaffeoAbout The Guest: Stephanie Jordan
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Feb 20, 2024 • 31min
048 | Stephanie Jordan | Building with Purpose: Recruiting People into New Categories Through Flavor (Avallen Calvados)
Episode Deep-Dive Analysis Available at maffeodrinks.com In Episode 048 I had the honor to talk to Stephanie Jordan. She is the Co-Founder of B-Corp Avallen Calvados. She brings fantastic insights as he also runs her Sales & Marketing Consultancy, Drinking Out Loud. Before that she has ran Sales & Global Advocacy for la Hechicera Rum and was the Global Brand Ambassador for Tanqueray Gin after starting her career in drinks on the Global Diageo graduate scheme. I hope you will enjoy our chat.Time Stamps0:00 Intro3:04 Bringing A Non-Trendy Category To Market5:54 Brand Or Liquid Led9:19 Target Occasion Vs Category14:58 Multi or Single Target Occasion24:11 Sustainability Messaging30:03 OutroAbout The Host: Chris MaffeoAbout The Guest: Stephanie Jordan
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Feb 13, 2024 • 46min
047 | Jack Orr-Ewing | Nailing the Right Distribution Model; One Size Doesn’t fit All: How Different Models Suit Different Brand Life-Stages (Duppy Share Rum)
Episode Deep-Dive Analysis Available at maffeodrinks.com In Episode 047 I continued the conversation with Jack Orr-Ewing from Ep. 046. He is the CEO of the Westbourne Drinks Company - The Duppy Share. He brings an incredible experience of the various stages of brand development from the start to reaching scale in a market. We dived into efficient marketing spend and how to align the route to market to each brand stage. I hope you will enjoy our chat.Time Stamps00:00 Introduction00:14 Shifting Into Management6:52 Dangers of Overeating as a Brand9:48 Systematizing Selling To 100's of Bars25:21 Adapting To Local Ecosystems29:01 Best Brand Awareness Tools33:15 The Fools Gold of Big Brand Events38:23 Sponsoring Events: Invisible Downsides & How To Capitalize43:38 Ending SegmentAbout The Host: Chris MaffeoAbout The Guest: Jack Orr-Ewing
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Feb 6, 2024 • 36min
046 | Jack Orr-Ewing | From Start-Up to 40K 9L cases: Duppy Share's (bumpy) journey to become the UK’s largest independent Rum Brand
Episode Deep-Dive Analysis Available at maffeodrinks.com In Episode 046 I had the pleasure of chatting to Jack Orr-Ewing. He is the CEO of the Westbourne Drinks Company - The Duppy Share. He brings an incredible experience of the various stages of brand development from the start to reaching scale in a market. We dived into efficient marketing spend and how to align the route to market to each brand stage. I hope you will enjoy our chat.Time Stamps0:00 Introduction1:00 Building Demand5:09 Entering A New Market10:43 Selecting Bars15:11 Differentiating Your Brand For On-Trade23:08 Utilizing Portfolio To Enter Bars28:47 The Target Consumer31:45 The Duppy Share34:21 OutroAbout The Host: Chris MaffeoAbout The Guest: Jack Orr-Ewing
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Jan 30, 2024 • 58min
045 | Drink Photography: the power of hospitality as a service | Part 2/2 with Francesco Sapienza (NYC, USA)
Episode Deep-Dive Analysis Available at maffeodrinks.com In Episode 045, I continued the conversation with Francesco Sapienza from Episode 044. He disclosed some tips about Drinks Photography and unveiled the behind-the-scenes of working with some of the best bars and restaurants in NYC. It is also in video on Spotify and YouTube.
Time Stamps
0:00 Introduction
0:22 A Food Photographer's Red Flags
6:39 Creating The Photograph
10:34 The Role of Light in Sales
16:24 Ensuring a Follow Up
20:04 The Value of a Professional
27:20 Photographic Tricks
29:33 Difference Between Food & Drink Shots
32:40 Taking Shortcuts
35:48 Best Color For Liquid
40:17 Pragmatic vs Aspirational Imagery
44:50 The Professional as an Educator
55:00 Ending Remarks
57:09 Outro
About The Host: Chris Maffeo
About The Guest: Francesco Sapienza
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Jan 23, 2024 • 27min
044 | Food & Drink Photography: How to start a career Bottom-up | Part 1/2 with Francesco Sapienza (New York City, USA)
Episode Deep-Dive Analysis Available at maffeodrinks.com In Episodes 044 I had the pleasure to chat with one of my best friends, Francesco Sapienza. He is a NYC-based Food & Drink Photographer. An Engineer by trade, he left a successful career in Stockholm, Sweden to pursue his dream in NYC.
We spoke about how to best work with the different players in the hospitality ecosystem. I hope you will enjoy our chat.
Time Stamps
0:00 Intro
2:09 About The Guest
3:57 Choosing a Niche
9:36 Choosing Your Target Customers
11:45 Photographer-Brand Communications
15:00 When The Customer Doesn't Know What They Need
20:00 Creating Demand As A Photographer
25:36 Outro
About the Host: Chris Maffeo
About the Guest: Francesco Sapienza
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Jan 16, 2024 • 44min
043 | How to navigate Global Travel Retail as a Brand Building Channel | Part2/2 with André De Almeida (Glasgow, Scotland)
Episode Deep-Dive Analysis Available at maffeodrinks.com In Episode 043 I continued the conversation with André de Almeida from Episode 042. In this part we digged into GTR, Global Travel Retail as a Bottom-up Channel.
André is a Drinks Industry Consultant and Founder of the "Inside the Cask" website. André has 20 years of experience having worked with Loch Lomond Group, William Grant & Sons, Edrington, and other drinks companies. He is also a Drinks Jury Member at Spirits Selection by Concours Mondial de Bruxelles.
Time Stamps
0:00 Intro
0:14 Global Travel Retail Logistics
7:55 Segmenting Airports
10:31 Local Airport Advantage
13:42 Airport Stakeholders
18:35 Staffing Airports
22:11 Identifying Your Consumer
34:42 Local vs. Standardized Airport Selection
41:07 Wrapping Up
About The Host: Chris Maffeo
About The Guest: Andre De Almeida
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