

MAFFEO DRINKS
Chris Maffeo
The MAFFEO DRINKS Podcast is a leading drinks industry podcast delivering frontline insights for drinks leadership.
For founders, directors, distributor MDs, and hospitality leaders navigating the tension between bottom-up reality and top-down expectations.
20+ years building brands across 30+ markets. Each episode features drinks builders: founders, distributors, commercial directors, sharing how the drinks industry actually works. Not the conference version. Honest conversations.
Insights come from sitting at the bar.
Beyond episodes: advisory for leadership teams, subscription with episode deep dives and principles to navigate your own reality.
Beer, wine, spirits, Low and non-alcoholic.
Bottom-up Insights & Episode Deep Dives at https://maffeodrinks.com
For founders, directors, distributor MDs, and hospitality leaders navigating the tension between bottom-up reality and top-down expectations.
20+ years building brands across 30+ markets. Each episode features drinks builders: founders, distributors, commercial directors, sharing how the drinks industry actually works. Not the conference version. Honest conversations.
Insights come from sitting at the bar.
Beyond episodes: advisory for leadership teams, subscription with episode deep dives and principles to navigate your own reality.
Beer, wine, spirits, Low and non-alcoholic.
Bottom-up Insights & Episode Deep Dives at https://maffeodrinks.com
Episodes
Mentioned books

Jan 9, 2024 • 42min
042 | Building Flavor From Grain to Cask, How Each step Plays a Role in Recruiting Consumers | Part 1/2 with André de Almeida of Inside the Cask (Glasgow, Scotland)
Episode Deep-Dive Analysis Available at maffeodrinks.com In Episode 042 I had the pleasure of chatting with André de Almeida. He is a Drinks Industry Consultant and Founder of the "Inside the Cask" website. André has 20 years of experience having worked with Loch Lomond Group, William Grant & Sons, Edrington, and other drinks companies. He is also a Drinks Jury Member at Spirits Selection by Concours Mondial de Bruxelles.
Time Stamps
0:00 Introduction
1:39 Starting From Brand or Liquid?
3:51 Bringing In New Whisk(e)y Drinkers
9:18 Whisk(e)y Education
12:53 Category Bridging For Whisk(e)y
18:53 Category Jumping With Wood
25:41 Clear Target Occasion Vs Pigeonholing
27:38 Recruitment Via Cocktails
35:22 The Role Of Bottom-Up Trade
40:49 Outro
About the Host: Chris Maffeo
About the Guest: Andre De Almeida
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Jan 2, 2024 • 44min
041 | Bringing Gin to Brazil: how to start a brand starting from a specific need | with Arturo Isola, Co-Founder of Amazzoni Gin (Sao Paulo, Brazil)
Episode Deep-Dive Analysis Available at maffeodrinks.com In episode 041, I had the pleasure of chatting with Arturo Isola, Co-Founder of Amazzoni Gin. An architect and designer by training, he entered the Drinks Industry co-creating the first Brazilian Gin on his journey to craft the perfect Negroni. I hope you will enjoy this inspiring Founder’s story.
Timestamps
0:00 Introduction
2:16 The First Brazilian Gin
8:48 Brand or Liquid Led Business?
13:14 Conceiving The Business Idea
20:06 Breaking into the On-Trade
23:02 Starting Without Investors
27:45 Entrepreneurs and Consistency
32:21 Should You Adapt to the Market?
37:00 Committing to The Dream
41:34 Contact Info & Ending
About the Host: Chris Maffeo
About the Guest: Arturo Isola
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Dec 26, 2023 • 40min
040 | Aligning Team's KPIs and Fact-based Storytelling | Part 2/2 with Julian Davies, Founder of Ostara Vermouth (London, UK)
Episode Deep-Dive Analysis Available at maffeodrinks.com In Episode 040, I continued the conversation with Julian Davies from Episode 039. Feel free to listen to that, as well. He started as a Sales guy for Stella Artois in the UK, then moved to SABMiller where he wrote the brand-building strategy, before taking a Senior Marketing role at Bombay Sapphire. He now consults start-ups and is the Founder of Ostara English vermouth. I hope you enjoy our chat.
Time Stamps
00:00 Introduction
00:15 The Importance of Bartenders
04:27 The Social Entourage
07:37 The Limits of Misaligned KPIs
16:30 Developing Healthy KPI Habits
20:00 A Certain Occasion For A Certain Person
23:53 Liquid vs Story for Brand Building
31:22 Story Has a Purpose
34:08 What's Your Angle?
37:39 Wrap Up
About The Host: Chris Maffeo
About The Guest: Julian Davies
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Dec 20, 2023 • 43min
039 | Founding a Drinks Brand: turning the Feudal system upside down | Part 1/2 with Julian Davies, Founder of Ostara Vermouth (London, UK)
Episode Deep-Dive Analysis Available at maffeodrinks.com In episode 039, I finally caught up with my old friend and colleague, Julian Davies. He started as a Sales guy for Stella Artois in the UK, then moved to SABMiller where he wrote the brand-building strategy, before taking a Senior Marketing role at Bombay Sapphire. He now consults start-ups and is the Founder of Ostara English vermouth. I hope you enjoy our chat.
Time Stamps
00:00 Introduction
00:56 Background
03:54 Communicating Bottom Up Philosophy
10:51 Brand Lifecycles
16:42 Difference Between Large and Small Drinks Companies
19:56 Role of The Brand Owner
26:58 Podcast and Brand Similarities
31:23 Why Start a Brand?
41:40 Outro
About The Host: Chris Maffeo
About The Guest: Julian Davies
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Dec 13, 2023 • 42min
038 | Scaling a Whisky Brand from a Local Distillery to the World | Part 2/2 with Daniel Szor, Founder of the Cotswolds Distillery (UK)
Episode Deep-Dive Analysis Available at maffeodrinks.com In Episode 038, I continued the conversation with Daniel Szor from Episode 037. Feel free to listen to that, as well. He has an incredible story as he left his 30-year Investment Management career in NYC, Paris, and London behind to build one of the first English Whisky Distilleries. I hope you will enjoy our chat. I hope you will enjoy our chat.
Time Stamps
(0:00) Introduction
(0:10) Home Turf Advantage
(3:05) Starting A Distillery: Sales
(8:44) Bridging Categories
(16:34) Discerning Your Market
(20:46) Home Turf Authenticity
(27:57) Creating A Sales Team
(33:51) Small Brand Owner Expectations
About the guest: Daniel Szor
About the Host: Chris Maffeo
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Dec 6, 2023 • 42min
037 | Building English Whisky as a New Category Bottom-up | Part 1/2 with Daniel Szor, Founder of the Cotswolds Distillery (UK)
Episode Deep-Dive Analysis Available at maffeodrinks.com In Episode 037, I had the honor of chatting with Daniel Szor, Founder of the Cotswolds Distillery. He has an incredible story as he left his 30-year Investment Management career in NYC, Paris, and London behind to build one of the first English Whisky Distilleries. I hope you will enjoy our chat.
Time Stamps
(0:00) Introduction
(1:14) Building Demand & Background
(8:02) Why England?
(12:52) Developing English Whisky
(19:49) Whisky Innovation
(25:58) Distilling Brand Messaging Down
(32:09) Getting Your Foot In The Door
(36:33) The Beauty of Off-trade
About the Host: Chris Maffeo
About the Guest: Daniel Szor
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Nov 29, 2023 • 43min
036 | Bridging liquid categories: beverage development to recruit new consumers | Part 2/2 with Sebastian Barnick from Pleasant Land Distillery (Kent, UK)
Episode Deep-Dive Analysis Available at maffeodrinks.com In Episode 036, I continued my conversation with Sebastian Barnick in Episode 035. Feel free to listen to that, as well.
Starting life in the Royal Navy, he became a certified distiller and WSET educator with a wealth of experience in wines and luxury spirits. He is an NPD professional and runs a sustainable contract distillery in the UK. I hope you will enjoy our chat. I hope you will enjoy our chat.
Time Stamps
(0:17); Authenticity in Brands
(11:23); Modern and Traditional Target Occasions
(17:17); Hometown Authenticity
(22:28); Bridging Categories
(26:43); Categories from a Distiller's perspective
(33:55); Early Adopters
(38:28); Best Part of being a Distiller
About the Host: Chris Maffeo
About the Guest: Sebastian Barnick
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Nov 22, 2023 • 34min
035 | Thinking long-term when developing a new drinks brand | Part 1/2 with Sebastian Barnick from Pleasant Land Distillery (Kent, UK)
Episode Deep-Dive Analysis Available at maffeodrinks.com In Episode 035, I chatted with Sebastian Barnick, Director at Pleasant Land Distillery. Starting life in the Royal Navy, he became a certified distiller and WSET educator with a wealth of experience in wines and luxury spirits. He is an NPD professional and runs a sustainable contract distillery in the UK. I hope you will enjoy our chat.
Timestamps
(1:36); Origins of a Liquid and Brand
(7:48); Rectifying Vs Distilling
(11:10); Disconnect between Pricing and Quality
(18:42); The Bottom Up Era
(20:04); Value Chain Construction
(27:01); Where Do The First 10,000 Pounds Go
About The Host: Chris Maffeo
About the Guest: Sebastian Barnick
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Nov 20, 2023 • 14min
Bar Convent Berlin 2023 - Bonus Video Episode | Demystifying Gen-Z, how to build a brand that talks to all generations
Episode Deep-Dive Analysis Available at maffeodrinks.com This bonus episode was recorded at Bar Convent Berlin 2023, where Chris Maffeo held a presentation as a guest of Park Street University.
Interested in having the slides? Download them here: https://chrismaffeo.gumroad.com/l/demystifyinggenz?_gl=1*1dg8lxc*_ga*NzY1NzcyNzM1LjE3MDAzMTE5Nzk.*_ga_6LJN6D94N6*MTcwMDUxMzAyMC41LjAuMTcwMDUxMzAyMC4wLjAuMA..
About the Host: Chris Maffeo
About the venue: BCB - Bar Convent Berlin
All rights reserved: Park Street
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Nov 14, 2023 • 45min
034 | From the right Bars to the right Wholesalers, Bottom-up | with Gaetano Chiavetta from Everleaf Drinks (London, UK)
Episode Deep-Dive Analysis Available at maffeodrinks.com In Episode 034, I spoke to Gaetano Chiavetta. He heads UK & Italy On-trade at Everleaf Drinks | B Corp. He has previously worked for Global Brands and brings Bar Manager and Bartender experience from several On-trade venues in London. I hope you will enjoy our chat.
Time Stamps
(2:26); Building Demand
(7:46); Targeting Via Wholesalers
(17:17); Building Systems For Connection
(26:28); Value of The Cocktail Menu
(29:58); Do The Homework
(39:10); Growing Beyond Your Home Market
(42:12); Contact Gaetano
About The Host: Chris Maffeo
About The Guest: Gaetano Chiavetta
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