

MAFFEO DRINKS: Built Bottom-up
Chris Maffeo
The MAFFEO DRINKS Podcast is a leading drinks business podcast delivering actionable insights for drinks leadership.
For founders, directors, distributor MDs, and hospitality leaders navigating the tension between bottom-up reality and top-down expectations.
20+ years building brands across 30+ markets. Each episode features drinks builders: founders, distributors, commercial directors, sharing how the drinks industry actually works. Not the conference version. Honest conversations.
Insights come from sitting at the bar.
Beyond episodes: advisory for leadership teams, subscription with episode deep dives and principles to navigate your own reality.
Beer, wine, spirits, Low and non-alcoholic.
Bottom-up Insights & Episode Deep Dives at https://maffeodrinks.com
For founders, directors, distributor MDs, and hospitality leaders navigating the tension between bottom-up reality and top-down expectations.
20+ years building brands across 30+ markets. Each episode features drinks builders: founders, distributors, commercial directors, sharing how the drinks industry actually works. Not the conference version. Honest conversations.
Insights come from sitting at the bar.
Beyond episodes: advisory for leadership teams, subscription with episode deep dives and principles to navigate your own reality.
Beer, wine, spirits, Low and non-alcoholic.
Bottom-up Insights & Episode Deep Dives at https://maffeodrinks.com
Episodes
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Feb 20, 2024 • 33min
048 | Stephanie Jordan | Building with Purpose: Recruiting People into New Categories Through Flavor (Avallen Calvados)
Happy 2026. This Episode is hosted by Chris Maffeo and brought to you by MAFFEO DRINKS. A Deep-Dive Analysis of This Episode is Available at maffeodrinks.com In Episode 048 I had the honor to talk to Stephanie Jordan. She is the Co-Founder of B-Corp Avallen Calvados. She brings fantastic insights as he also runs her Sales & Marketing Consultancy, Drinking Out Loud. Before that she has ran Sales & Global Advocacy for la Hechicera Rum and was the Global Brand Ambassador for Tanqueray Gin after starting her career in drinks on the Global Diageo graduate scheme. I hope you will enjoy our chat.Time Stamps0:00 Intro3:04 Bringing A Non-Trendy Category To Market5:54 Brand Or Liquid Led9:19 Target Occasion Vs Category14:58 Multi or Single Target Occasion24:11 Sustainability Messaging30:03 OutroAbout The Host: Chris MaffeoAbout The Guest: Stephanie Jordan
This episode is brought to you by MAFFEO DRINKS, an Advisory helping drinks leaders execute bottom-up growth while managing stakeholder expectations. You can get in touch at bottomup@maffeodrinks.com

Feb 13, 2024 • 48min
047 | Jack Orr-Ewing | Nailing the Right Distribution Model; One Size Doesn’t fit All: How Different Models Suit Different Brand Life-Stages (Duppy Share Rum)
Happy 2026. This Episode is hosted by Chris Maffeo and brought to you by MAFFEO DRINKS. A Deep-Dive Analysis of This Episode is Available at maffeodrinks.com In Episode 047 I continued the conversation with Jack Orr-Ewing from Ep. 046. He is the CEO of the Westbourne Drinks Company - The Duppy Share. He brings an incredible experience of the various stages of brand development from the start to reaching scale in a market. We dived into efficient marketing spend and how to align the route to market to each brand stage. I hope you will enjoy our chat.Time Stamps00:00 Introduction00:14 Shifting Into Management6:52 Dangers of Overeating as a Brand9:48 Systematizing Selling To 100's of Bars25:21 Adapting To Local Ecosystems29:01 Best Brand Awareness Tools33:15 The Fools Gold of Big Brand Events38:23 Sponsoring Events: Invisible Downsides & How To Capitalize43:38 Ending SegmentAbout The Host: Chris MaffeoAbout The Guest: Jack Orr-Ewing
This episode is brought to you by MAFFEO DRINKS, an Advisory helping drinks leaders execute bottom-up growth while managing stakeholder expectations. You can get in touch at bottomup@maffeodrinks.com

Feb 6, 2024 • 37min
046 | Jack Orr-Ewing | From Start-Up to 40K 9L cases: Duppy Share's (bumpy) journey to become the UK’s largest independent Rum Brand
Happy 2026. This Episode is hosted by Chris Maffeo and brought to you by MAFFEO DRINKS. A Deep-Dive Analysis of This Episode is Available at maffeodrinks.com In Episode 046 I had the pleasure of chatting to Jack Orr-Ewing. He is the CEO of the Westbourne Drinks Company - The Duppy Share. He brings an incredible experience of the various stages of brand development from the start to reaching scale in a market. We dived into efficient marketing spend and how to align the route to market to each brand stage. I hope you will enjoy our chat.Time Stamps0:00 Introduction1:00 Building Demand5:09 Entering A New Market10:43 Selecting Bars15:11 Differentiating Your Brand For On-Trade23:08 Utilizing Portfolio To Enter Bars28:47 The Target Consumer31:45 The Duppy Share34:21 OutroAbout The Host: Chris MaffeoAbout The Guest: Jack Orr-Ewing
This episode is brought to you by MAFFEO DRINKS, an Advisory helping drinks leaders execute bottom-up growth while managing stakeholder expectations. You can get in touch at bottomup@maffeodrinks.com

Jan 30, 2024 • 60min
045 | Drink Photography: the power of hospitality as a service | Part 2/2 with Francesco Sapienza (NYC, USA)
Happy 2026. This Episode is hosted by Chris Maffeo and brought to you by MAFFEO DRINKS. A Deep-Dive Analysis of This Episode is Available at maffeodrinks.com In Episode 045, I continued the conversation with Francesco Sapienza from Episode 044. He disclosed some tips about Drinks Photography and unveiled the behind-the-scenes of working with some of the best bars and restaurants in NYC. It is also in video on Spotify and YouTube.
Time Stamps
0:00 Introduction
0:22 A Food Photographer's Red Flags
6:39 Creating The Photograph
10:34 The Role of Light in Sales
16:24 Ensuring a Follow Up
20:04 The Value of a Professional
27:20 Photographic Tricks
29:33 Difference Between Food & Drink Shots
32:40 Taking Shortcuts
35:48 Best Color For Liquid
40:17 Pragmatic vs Aspirational Imagery
44:50 The Professional as an Educator
55:00 Ending Remarks
57:09 Outro
About The Host: Chris Maffeo
About The Guest: Francesco Sapienza
This episode is brought to you by MAFFEO DRINKS, an Advisory helping drinks leaders execute bottom-up growth while managing stakeholder expectations. You can get in touch at bottomup@maffeodrinks.com

Jan 23, 2024 • 28min
044 | Food & Drink Photography: How to start a career Bottom-up | Part 1/2 with Francesco Sapienza (New York City, USA)
Happy 2026. This Episode is hosted by Chris Maffeo and brought to you by MAFFEO DRINKS. A Deep-Dive Analysis of This Episode is Available at maffeodrinks.com In Episodes 044 I had the pleasure to chat with one of my best friends, Francesco Sapienza. He is a NYC-based Food & Drink Photographer. An Engineer by trade, he left a successful career in Stockholm, Sweden to pursue his dream in NYC.
We spoke about how to best work with the different players in the hospitality ecosystem. I hope you will enjoy our chat.
Time Stamps
0:00 Intro
2:09 About The Guest
3:57 Choosing a Niche
9:36 Choosing Your Target Customers
11:45 Photographer-Brand Communications
15:00 When The Customer Doesn't Know What They Need
20:00 Creating Demand As A Photographer
25:36 Outro
About the Host: Chris Maffeo
About the Guest: Francesco Sapienza
This episode is brought to you by MAFFEO DRINKS, an Advisory helping drinks leaders execute bottom-up growth while managing stakeholder expectations. You can get in touch at bottomup@maffeodrinks.com

Jan 16, 2024 • 45min
043 | How to navigate Global Travel Retail as a Brand Building Channel | Part2/2 with André De Almeida (Glasgow, Scotland)
Happy 2026. This Episode is hosted by Chris Maffeo and brought to you by MAFFEO DRINKS. A Deep-Dive Analysis of This Episode is Available at maffeodrinks.com In Episode 043 I continued the conversation with André de Almeida from Episode 042. In this part we digged into GTR, Global Travel Retail as a Bottom-up Channel.
André is a Drinks Industry Consultant and Founder of the "Inside the Cask" website. André has 20 years of experience having worked with Loch Lomond Group, William Grant & Sons, Edrington, and other drinks companies. He is also a Drinks Jury Member at Spirits Selection by Concours Mondial de Bruxelles.
Time Stamps
0:00 Intro
0:14 Global Travel Retail Logistics
7:55 Segmenting Airports
10:31 Local Airport Advantage
13:42 Airport Stakeholders
18:35 Staffing Airports
22:11 Identifying Your Consumer
34:42 Local vs. Standardized Airport Selection
41:07 Wrapping Up
About The Host: Chris Maffeo
About The Guest: Andre De Almeida
This episode is brought to you by MAFFEO DRINKS, an Advisory helping drinks leaders execute bottom-up growth while managing stakeholder expectations. You can get in touch at bottomup@maffeodrinks.com

Jan 9, 2024 • 43min
042 | Building Flavor From Grain to Cask, How Each step Plays a Role in Recruiting Consumers | Part 1/2 with André de Almeida of Inside the Cask (Glasgow, Scotland)
Happy 2026. This Episode is hosted by Chris Maffeo and brought to you by MAFFEO DRINKS. A Deep-Dive Analysis of This Episode is Available at maffeodrinks.com In Episode 042 I had the pleasure of chatting with André de Almeida. He is a Drinks Industry Consultant and Founder of the "Inside the Cask" website. André has 20 years of experience having worked with Loch Lomond Group, William Grant & Sons, Edrington, and other drinks companies. He is also a Drinks Jury Member at Spirits Selection by Concours Mondial de Bruxelles.
Time Stamps
0:00 Introduction
1:39 Starting From Brand or Liquid?
3:51 Bringing In New Whisk(e)y Drinkers
9:18 Whisk(e)y Education
12:53 Category Bridging For Whisk(e)y
18:53 Category Jumping With Wood
25:41 Clear Target Occasion Vs Pigeonholing
27:38 Recruitment Via Cocktails
35:22 The Role Of Bottom-Up Trade
40:49 Outro
About the Host: Chris Maffeo
About the Guest: Andre De Almeida
This episode is brought to you by MAFFEO DRINKS, an Advisory helping drinks leaders execute bottom-up growth while managing stakeholder expectations. You can get in touch at bottomup@maffeodrinks.com

Jan 2, 2024 • 45min
041 | Bringing Gin to Brazil: how to start a brand starting from a specific need | with Arturo Isola, Co-Founder of Amazzoni Gin (Sao Paulo, Brazil)
Happy 2026. This Episode is hosted by Chris Maffeo and brought to you by MAFFEO DRINKS. A Deep-Dive Analysis of This Episode is Available at maffeodrinks.com In episode 041, I had the pleasure of chatting with Arturo Isola, Co-Founder of Amazzoni Gin. An architect and designer by training, he entered the Drinks Industry co-creating the first Brazilian Gin on his journey to craft the perfect Negroni. I hope you will enjoy this inspiring Founder’s story.
Timestamps
0:00 Introduction
2:16 The First Brazilian Gin
8:48 Brand or Liquid Led Business?
13:14 Conceiving The Business Idea
20:06 Breaking into the On-Trade
23:02 Starting Without Investors
27:45 Entrepreneurs and Consistency
32:21 Should You Adapt to the Market?
37:00 Committing to The Dream
41:34 Contact Info & Ending
About the Host: Chris Maffeo
About the Guest: Arturo Isola
This episode is brought to you by MAFFEO DRINKS, an Advisory helping drinks leaders execute bottom-up growth while managing stakeholder expectations. You can get in touch at bottomup@maffeodrinks.com

Dec 26, 2023 • 41min
040 | Aligning Team's KPIs and Fact-based Storytelling | Part 2/2 with Julian Davies, Founder of Ostara Vermouth (London, UK)
Happy 2026. This Episode is hosted by Chris Maffeo and brought to you by MAFFEO DRINKS. A Deep-Dive Analysis of This Episode is Available at maffeodrinks.com In Episode 040, I continued the conversation with Julian Davies from Episode 039. Feel free to listen to that, as well. He started as a Sales guy for Stella Artois in the UK, then moved to SABMiller where he wrote the brand-building strategy, before taking a Senior Marketing role at Bombay Sapphire. He now consults start-ups and is the Founder of Ostara English vermouth. I hope you enjoy our chat.
Time Stamps
00:00 Introduction
00:15 The Importance of Bartenders
04:27 The Social Entourage
07:37 The Limits of Misaligned KPIs
16:30 Developing Healthy KPI Habits
20:00 A Certain Occasion For A Certain Person
23:53 Liquid vs Story for Brand Building
31:22 Story Has a Purpose
34:08 What's Your Angle?
37:39 Wrap Up
About The Host: Chris Maffeo
About The Guest: Julian Davies
This episode is brought to you by MAFFEO DRINKS, an Advisory helping drinks leaders execute bottom-up growth while managing stakeholder expectations. You can get in touch at bottomup@maffeodrinks.com

Dec 20, 2023 • 44min
039 | Founding a Drinks Brand: turning the Feudal system upside down | Part 1/2 with Julian Davies, Founder of Ostara Vermouth (London, UK)
Happy 2026. This Episode is hosted by Chris Maffeo and brought to you by MAFFEO DRINKS. A Deep-Dive Analysis of This Episode is Available at maffeodrinks.com In episode 039, I finally caught up with my old friend and colleague, Julian Davies. He started as a Sales guy for Stella Artois in the UK, then moved to SABMiller where he wrote the brand-building strategy, before taking a Senior Marketing role at Bombay Sapphire. He now consults start-ups and is the Founder of Ostara English vermouth. I hope you enjoy our chat.
Time Stamps
00:00 Introduction
00:56 Background
03:54 Communicating Bottom Up Philosophy
10:51 Brand Lifecycles
16:42 Difference Between Large and Small Drinks Companies
19:56 Role of The Brand Owner
26:58 Podcast and Brand Similarities
31:23 Why Start a Brand?
41:40 Outro
About The Host: Chris Maffeo
About The Guest: Julian Davies
This episode is brought to you by MAFFEO DRINKS, an Advisory helping drinks leaders execute bottom-up growth while managing stakeholder expectations. You can get in touch at bottomup@maffeodrinks.com


