

MAFFEO DRINKS
Chris Maffeo
The MAFFEO DRINKS Podcast is a leading drinks industry podcast delivering frontline insights for drinks leadership.
For founders, directors, distributor MDs, and hospitality leaders navigating the tension between bottom-up reality and top-down expectations.
20+ years building brands across 30+ markets. Each episode features drinks builders: founders, distributors, commercial directors, sharing how the drinks industry actually works. Not the conference version. Honest conversations.
Insights come from sitting at the bar.
Beyond episodes: advisory for leadership teams, subscription with episode deep dives and principles to navigate your own reality.
Beer, wine, spirits, Low and non-alcoholic.
Bottom-up Insights & Episode Deep Dives at https://maffeodrinks.com
For founders, directors, distributor MDs, and hospitality leaders navigating the tension between bottom-up reality and top-down expectations.
20+ years building brands across 30+ markets. Each episode features drinks builders: founders, distributors, commercial directors, sharing how the drinks industry actually works. Not the conference version. Honest conversations.
Insights come from sitting at the bar.
Beyond episodes: advisory for leadership teams, subscription with episode deep dives and principles to navigate your own reality.
Beer, wine, spirits, Low and non-alcoholic.
Bottom-up Insights & Episode Deep Dives at https://maffeodrinks.com
Episodes
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May 28, 2024 • 46min
062 | David Wood | Distribution: The Non-obvious Power of Smaller Categories | Liana Collection
Episode Deep-Dive Analysis Available at maffeodrinks.com In Ep. 062, I dived into the complexities of the drinks distribution industry with David Wood, Founder of Liana Collection, a UK-based Premium Drinks Importer and Distributor (IWSC Spirits Distributor of the Year 2023 in the UK).
He shares valuable insights on what makes a successful brand, the importance of quality liquid, and the market's competitive nature.
Discover the criteria for selecting brands, the significance of founder-led stories, and the focus on sustainability and smaller categories.
We also discuss the challenges of gaining a distributor's mindshare, the benefits of being a secondary cocktail ingredient, and strategies for maintaining balance in a brand portfolio.
This conversation is a must-listen for anyone interested in the drinks industry, brand development, and distribution strategies.
Time Stamps
00:00 Welcome to the World of Distribution: A Candid Chat
00:51 The Essence of Building a Drinks Brand: Brand vs. Liquid
03:31 Insider's Guide: Selecting Brands for Distribution
06:31 Innovative Strategies in the Drinks Industry
09:39 The Art of Being a Secondary Ingredient
20:43 The Power of Modifiers in Cocktail Creation
29:00 Navigating Portfolio and Contract Negotiations
31:56 Navigating Brand Sales and Relationships
34:07 Strategic Portfolio Management and Outlet Selection
35:33 Adapting Sales Strategies Across Different Venues
39:43 The Importance of Brand Identity and Selective Partnerships
41:47 Personal Growth and Career Reflections
44:48 Building a Business with Purpose and Longevity
55:47 The Value of Legacy and Historical Insight in Branding
About The Host: Chris Maffeo
About The Guest: David Wood
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May 21, 2024 • 44min
061 | Nick Gillett | Managing Expectations While Scaling Your Brand's Distribution | Mangrove Global
Episode Deep-Dive Analysis Available at maffeodrinks.com In Ep. 61, I continued the conversation with Nick Gillett from Ep. 60. He’s the Managing Director of Mangrove Global. We spoke about all the aspects of bringing Drinks Brands to market from start to scale, including distributors, Wholesalers, and all the links in the Drinks Ecosystem. I hope you will enjoy our chat.
Time Stamps
0:00 Intro
0:25 Portfolio Selection
8:20 Creating Your Own Category
16:42 Micro Categories & National Cuisines
23:20 Traditional & Modern Serves
25:53 Geographic Centered Marketing
30:25 Building a Neighborhood Presence
32:33 Overcomplicating Cocktails
34:10 Value of Off-Trade
37:44 Transitioning to Chains
41:21 Where To Find Nick
42:23 Outro
About The Host: Chris Maffeo
About The Guest: Nick Gillett
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May 14, 2024 • 34min
060 | Nick Gillett | Wholesalers & Distributors: understanding the Drinks Route-to-Market | Mangrove Global
Episode Deep-Dive Analysis Available at maffeodrinks.com In Ep. 60, I had an incredible chat with Nick Gillett, Managing Director of Mangrove Global. We spoke about all the aspects of bringing Drinks Brands to market from start to scale, including distributors, Wholesalers, and all the links in the Drinks Ecosystem. I hope you will enjoy our chat.
Time Stamps
0:00 Intro
1:20 Brand or Liquid Marketing Foundation
1:58 Nick Gillett Intro
6:58 Wholesalers & Importers Differences
12:50 The Game of Share of Mind
16:53 The Diversity of Wholesale
25:58 Has Wholesale Changed?
28:53 The Value of Relationships
32:10 Outro
About The Host: Chris Maffeo
About The Guest: Nick Gillett
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May 7, 2024 • 36min
059 | Stephen Myers | How to Build Demand Bar by Bar | Dynamic Beverage Consultants
Episode Deep-Dive Analysis Available at maffeodrinks.com In Episode 59, I continued the chat with Stephen Myers, from Ep. 58. He is the Founder of Dynamic Beverage Consultants. He is also one of the Originals at Ilegal Mezcal. We dived into the crucial aspects of launching a new brand in the (US) market and how to avoid expensive mistakes. I hope you will enjoy our chat.
Time Stamps
0:00 Intro
0:34 Your First 1,000 Pounds
4:00 Building Presence In The Trade
8:22 Being Relevant
14:35 Portfolio Strategies, One Bar
17:11 Portfolio Strategies, Many Bars
20:51 Independent Vs Chains
24:17 Be Careful What You Wish For
29:26 Last Thoughts On Entrepreneurship
34:15 Last Thoughts
About The Host: Chris Maffeo
About The Guest: Stephen Myers
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Apr 30, 2024 • 35min
058 | Stephen Myers | The First Steps in a New Market | Dynamic Beverage Consultants
Episode Deep-Dive Analysis Available at maffeodrinks.com In Episode 58, I chatted with Stephen Myers, Founder of Dynamic Beverage Consultants. He is also one of the Originals at Ilegal Mezcal. We dived into the crucial aspects of launching a new brand in the (US) market and how to avoid expensive mistakes. I hope you will enjoy our chat.
Time Stamps
0:00 Intro
0:51 About Steve
4:26 Brand Or Liquid Lead
6:34 Brand Story & Differentiation
12:28 Target Occasion
14:06 Creating Demand
16:57 Great Marketing, Bad Commercials
21:20 Beyond Categories
22:36 Breaking Into New Markets (Relationship Chaining)
28:07 Drinks Relationship Ecosystem
33:50 Outro
About The Host: Chris Maffeo
About The Guest: Stephen Myers
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Apr 23, 2024 • 48min
057 | Emmett Strack | US & EU Trends Cross-pollination | Cross-Episode with Park Street Insider Podcast
Episode Deep-Dive Analysis Available at maffeodrinks.com In episode 57, we've created a cross-episode with the Park Street University Insider Podcast.
I spoke to Emmett Strack, and we dived into the latest 2024 trends in the drinks industry.
We compared the US and Europe, talking about the cross-pollination of trends in the cocktail scene,
and in the overall bottom-up trade.
I hope you will enjoy our chat.
Time Stamps
0:00 Intro
2:16 Role of Convenience & Occasion
8:51 Ascension of Flavor
15:38 Pressurization
18:35 On-Trade In Europe
23:05 Euro Cocktail Trends
30:51 Gen Z & Drinking Occasion
36:42 Euro Drinking Categories
41:41 American Drinking Trends
46:14 Outro
About The Host: Chris Maffeo
About The Guest: Emmett Strack
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Apr 16, 2024 • 51min
056 | Georgie Bell | The Early Journey of a Founder-led Brand | The Heart Cut
Episode Deep-Dive Analysis Available at maffeodrinks.com In Episode 56, I continued the conversation with Georgie Bell, The Heart Cut's co-founder from Ep.55. She has extensive industry experience, having previously worked at Diageo, Bacardi, and the Scotch Malt Whisky Society.
We discussed how to explain a product, starting from a liquid, going into taste profile, storytelling, and target occasions. We closed with a dive into the life of a start-up with learnings and course correction to build bottom-up. I hope you will enjoy our chat.
Time Stamps
0:00 Intro
0:24 Where Do You Start
4:46 Importance Of Follow Up
7:41 Importance Of Normal Bars
13:05 Importance Of Off-Trade
15:18 When To Wholesale?
17:09 One Bottle, One Case, One Pallet
23:40 Building Demand With Partners
30:56 The Drinks Ecosystem
34:20 Start Up Challenges
47:34 Contact Details
49:19 Outro
About The Host: Chris Maffeo
About The Guest: Georgie Bell
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Apr 9, 2024 • 48min
055 | Georgie Bell | Taste Profile & Storytelling | The Heart Cut
Episode Deep-Dive Analysis Available at maffeodrinks.com In Episode 55, I enjoyed chatting with The Heart Cut's co-founder Georgie Bell. She has extensive industry experience, having previously worked at Diageo, Bacardi, and the Scotch Malt Whisky Society.
We discussed how to explain a product, starting from a liquid, going into taste profile, storytelling, and target occasions. We closed with a dive into the life of a start-up with learnings and course correction to build bottom-up. I hope you will enjoy our chat.
Time Stamps
0:00 Intro
2:03 Brand or Liquid?
6:43 Social Currency
12:43 Story Telling
23:22 Taste Profile
25:39 Target Consumer Vs Target Occasion
36:35 Women In Whisk(e)y
36:24 Outro
About The Host: Chris Maffeo
About The Guest: Georgie Bell
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Apr 2, 2024 • 48min
054 | How to Build a Drink Brand Bottom-up | Chris Maffeo with Vani Gupta Dandia (New Delhi, India)
Episode Deep-Dive Analysis Available at maffeodrinks.com In Episode 054 I had the pleasure of speaking with Vani Gupta Dandia. I was a guest in her Marketing with Vani Podcast were she interviews marketing people from various industries. We dived into the Drinks Industry, looking at it from outside. I hope you will enjoy our chat
Time Stamps
0:00 Intro
0:26 Background
2:00 What Differentiates Alcohol
3:05 Target Occasions
7:35 Bridging Categories
9:22 Gender Stereotypes
11:12 Tracking What You Can Track
13:47 Educating Consumers
18:11 Role Of Storytelling
20:24: Bottom Up Trade
24:17 Being Everything To Everyone
26:40 Playing with Variations
31:39 Cross Generational Appeal
36:36 Functional VS Recreational
39:54 Building Brands Bottom Up
46:17 Outro
About The Host: Chris Maffeo
About The Guest: Vani Gupta Dandia
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Mar 26, 2024 • 41min
053 | Nailing Your City (Distribution) Strategy: How to Transform Brand Momentum into Velocity in the right venues | Part 2/2 with Justin Medcraft, Founder of Mate Maker (Los Angeles, CA, USA)
Episode Deep-Dive Analysis Available at maffeodrinks.com In Episode 053, I continued the conversation with Justin Medcraft from Episode 052, so feel free to listen to that as well. He is the Founder of Mate Maker Hard Kombucha.
He brings a wealth of previous experience in Spirits and Beer. We discussed building demand for a start-up drinks brand, standing out amongst a sea of products, and focusing on building momentum.
I hope you will enjoy our chat.
One last thing: If you enjoy this podcast, you will also like the MAFFEO DRINKS Guides. You can subscribe free or paid on maffeodrinks.com
Time Stamps
0:00 Intro
0:24 When To Open New Markets
10:31 Community Driven Marketing
15:45 Growing From Your Community
18:33 Getting The SKU In, Increasing Rotation
26:33 Advantages Of Small Brands
36:19 Discipline
39:15 Contacts
39:54 Outro
About The Host: Chris Maffeo
About The Guest: Justin Medcraft
Interested in Group Subscriptions, Keynote Presentations or Advisory? You can get in touch at bottomup@maffeodrinks.com or find out more at maffeodrinks.com


