

MAFFEO DRINKS: Built Bottom-up
Chris Maffeo
The MAFFEO DRINKS Podcast is a leading drinks business podcast delivering actionable insights for drinks leadership.
For founders, directors, distributor MDs, and hospitality leaders navigating the tension between bottom-up reality and top-down expectations.
20+ years building brands across 30+ markets. Each episode features drinks builders: founders, distributors, commercial directors, sharing how the drinks industry actually works. Not the conference version. Honest conversations.
Insights come from sitting at the bar.
Beyond episodes: advisory for leadership teams, subscription with episode deep dives and principles to navigate your own reality.
Beer, wine, spirits, Low and non-alcoholic.
Bottom-up Insights & Episode Deep Dives at https://maffeodrinks.com
For founders, directors, distributor MDs, and hospitality leaders navigating the tension between bottom-up reality and top-down expectations.
20+ years building brands across 30+ markets. Each episode features drinks builders: founders, distributors, commercial directors, sharing how the drinks industry actually works. Not the conference version. Honest conversations.
Insights come from sitting at the bar.
Beyond episodes: advisory for leadership teams, subscription with episode deep dives and principles to navigate your own reality.
Beer, wine, spirits, Low and non-alcoholic.
Bottom-up Insights & Episode Deep Dives at https://maffeodrinks.com
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Oct 20, 2024 • 44min
078 | Chris Le Beau | Emotional Storytelling in Cocktail Menu | Decoding Cocktails Podcast
Happy 2026. This Episode is hosted by Chris Maffeo and brought to you by MAFFEO DRINKS. A Deep-Dive Analysis of This Episode is Available at maffeodrinks.com In this episode of the Maffeo Drinks Podcast, with guest Chris LeBeau, we explore the nuances of flavor profiles, consumer preferences, and the intricacies of crafting an exceptional cocktail.
LeBeau shares insights on how different cultural backgrounds and personal tastes influence drink choices and experiences.
He discusses the importance of storytelling and emotions in drink presentation, the role of brands in cocktail creation, and how bartenders and consumers can better communicate to achieve a satisfying drinking experience.
The dialogue emphasizes understanding where good drinks originate, looking beyond brands to quality ingredients, and exploring novel mixer concepts.
The episode invites listeners to embrace drink-making with a discerning palate and open mind.
00:00 Welcome to the Mafeo Drinks Podcast
00:28 The Ferris Wheel of 50 Best Bars
00:54 Taste Profiles and Restaurant Experiences
03:02 Categorizing Cocktails and Menu Descriptions
07:55 Brand Influence on Cocktail Menus
10:34 Personal Preferences and Cocktail Choices
17:51 Cultural Influences on Taste
21:29 The Impact of Small Additions in Cocktails
21:57 Bridging Taste Profiles: From Rum to Whiskey
22:41 Exploring Boulevardier Variations
23:47 Understanding Barrel Aging and Spirit Mellowing
24:55 Building Trust with Customers2
5:32 Maximizing Tasting Experiences in Classes
26:09 Avoiding Assumptions in Drink Preferences
30:18 The Importance of Reading the Room
36:55 Evaluating Bartender Skills and Drink Quality
39:42 Final Thoughts and How to Connect
About The Host: Chris Maffeo
About The Guest: Chris LeBeau
This episode is brought to you by MAFFEO DRINKS, an Advisory helping drinks leaders execute bottom-up growth while managing stakeholder expectations. You can get in touch at bottomup@maffeodrinks.com

Oct 13, 2024 • 36min
077 | Chris Le Beau | Scaling Cocktail Culture | Decoding Cocktails Podcast
Happy 2026. This Episode is hosted by Chris Maffeo and brought to you by MAFFEO DRINKS. A Deep-Dive Analysis of This Episode is Available at maffeodrinks.com In this episode of the Maffeo Drinks Podcast, we have an insightful discussion with Chris Le Beau, who transitioned from a strategic consulting role into the world of mixology.
The conversation explores Le Beau's passion for cocktails and the journey of learning and teaching cocktail-making.
Key topics include the importance of mastering classic cocktails like the Old Fashioned, the impact of consumer perceptions on cocktail culture, and the significance of designing accessible yet informative menus in bars.
We also discuss effectively bridging the gap between complex mixology and everyday cocktail enjoyment.
Throughout the episode, the emphasis is on refining the basics and imparting knowledge to create a better drinking experience for everyone.
00:00 Welcome to the Maffeo Drinks Podcast
00:27 Guest Introduction and Background
01:09 Journey into Mixology
03:51 From Passion Project to Business
04:23 Consumer Perspective on Cocktails
10:57 The Importance of Cocktail Fundamentals
13:05 Challenges in Cocktail Culture
28:17 Menu Design and Customer Experience
33:30 Closing Remarks
About The Host: Chris Maffeo
About The Guest: Chris Le Beau
This episode is brought to you by MAFFEO DRINKS, an Advisory helping drinks leaders execute bottom-up growth while managing stakeholder expectations. You can get in touch at bottomup@maffeodrinks.com

Oct 6, 2024 • 37min
076 | Rob Malin | Navigating the Role of Sustainability in the Drinks Industry | When in Rome
Happy 2026. This Episode is hosted by Chris Maffeo and brought to you by MAFFEO DRINKS. A Deep-Dive Analysis of This Episode is Available at maffeodrinks.com In episode 76, we continue the conversation with Rob Malin from Ep. 75. We delve into the complexities of incorporating sustainability into a wine brand's selling story. We talk about the impact of consumer trends and government legislation on brand growth, and discover strategies for balancing traditional wine marketing with innovative sustainable practices.
Time Stamps
00:00 Introduction and Episode Overview
00:48 Incorporating Sustainability into Wine Branding
02:43 Consumer Trends and Government Legislation
03:52 Packaging and Consumer Perception
06:47 Target Occasions vs. Target Consumers
09:03 Challenges and Opportunities in Wine Marketing
15:17 The Role of Education in Sustainability
27:25 Reflections and Future Strategies
32:01 Final Thoughts and Where to Find Us
About The Guest: Rob Malin
About The Host: Chris Maffeo
This episode is brought to you by MAFFEO DRINKS, an Advisory helping drinks leaders execute bottom-up growth while managing stakeholder expectations. You can get in touch at bottomup@maffeodrinks.com

Sep 29, 2024 • 44min
075 | Rob Malin | Building a Planet-Friendly Wine Brand through New Consumption Occasions | When in Rome
Happy 2026. This Episode is hosted by Chris Maffeo and brought to you by MAFFEO DRINKS. A Deep-Dive Analysis of This Episode is Available at maffeodrinks.com In episode 75, we delve into the unique journey of 'When in Rome' wine with its founder, Rob Malin.
We discover how challenging traditional wine packaging led to innovations like bag-in-box and paper bottles, driven by the brand's environmental commitments.
Rob shares insights on the complexities of entering the UK market, the impact of bottom-up and top-down strategies, and the importance of local versus national listings.
We talk about the crucial role of premium retailers like Waitrose in their growth, the financial hurdles faced by new brands, and the potential of cross-category competition in alcoholic beverages.
Time Stamps
00:00 Introduction to the Maffeo Drinks Podcast
01:04 Welcoming Rob Malin: Founder of When in Rome Wine
02:09 Exploring the Wine and Spirits Industry
03:57 The Rise of Canned Alcoholic Drinks
07:37 The Story Behind When in Rome Wine
13:05 Challenges and Strategies in the UK Market
17:32 Innovative Packaging and Environmental Impact
26:56 Building a Brand in Supermarkets
28:16 The Importance of Rate of Sale and Distribution
41:19 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
About The Guest: Rob Malin
About The Host: Chris Maffeo
This episode is brought to you by MAFFEO DRINKS, an Advisory helping drinks leaders execute bottom-up growth while managing stakeholder expectations. You can get in touch at bottomup@maffeodrinks.com

Sep 22, 2024 • 1h 15min
074 | Danil Nevsky | Hospitality vs. Drinks Industry: Navigating the Bartender-Brand Relationship | Indie Bartender
Happy 2026. This Episode is hosted by Chris Maffeo and brought to you by MAFFEO DRINKS. A Deep-Dive Analysis of This Episode is Available at maffeodrinks.com In this episode, I host the legendary Indie Bartender, Cocktailman Danil Nevsky for a deep dive into the dynamic world of bartending and brand interactions.
We discuss the evolution of the hospitality and drinks industry, and tackle the ongoing disconnect between bartenders and brand managers.
Danil offers insightful critiques on the state of the industry, sharing anecdotes and observations on brand ambassadors' roles, the rise of cocktail culture, and the generational shift in bartending.
We also explore the adaptation of bar experiences to be more consumer-friendly and the critical role of social media in modern bartending.
The episode is both a nostalgic look back and a hopeful glance forward, making it a must-listen for anyone interested in the symbiotic relationship between bars and brands. I hope you will enjoy our chat
NB It contains Hard Language, which is not suitable for all audiences.
Time Stamps
00:00 Introduction to the Podcast
01:20 Meet Danil Nevsky: Indie Bartender
02:29 The Disconnect Between Bartenders and Brands
04:20 The Evolution of the Spirits Industry
06:22 Generational Drinking and Market Changes
07:59 The Role of Brand Ambassadors
09:21 The Impact of Social Media and Technology
13:14 Challenges in Brand and Bar Collaboration
16:04 The Future of Bartending and Brand Interactions
38:04 The Evolution of Cocktail Content Creators
38:44 The Oral Tradition of Bartending
39:12 The Impact of Content Creators on Bartending
44:14 Brand Relationships in the Bar Industry
46:43 Balancing Brand and Bar Dynamics
51:47 The Role of Bartenders in Enhancing Customer Experience
55:47 Cultural Influences on Cocktail Culture
01:06:16 The Future of Cocktail Culture
01:10:35 Final Thoughts and Farewell
About The Host: Chris Maffeo
About The Guest: Danil Nevsky
This episode is brought to you by MAFFEO DRINKS, an Advisory helping drinks leaders execute bottom-up growth while managing stakeholder expectations. You can get in touch at bottomup@maffeodrinks.com

Sep 15, 2024 • 35min
073 | Chris Maffeo | Create Demand Before Trying To Capture It | MAFFEO DRINKS
Happy 2026. This Episode is hosted by Chris Maffeo and brought to you by MAFFEO DRINKS. A Deep-Dive Analysis of This Episode is Available at maffeodrinks.com In episode 073, I continue the conversation with Filiberto Amati on his Growth, Brands and More Podcast. I explain the concept of 'Drinks Builder' and we delve into the blurred lines between marketing and sales, discussing how to create demand before capturing it.
I emphasize the importance of understanding customer needs, solving problems with your brand, and building communities, particularly among bartenders.
We discuss successful case studies, the impact of strategic thinking on the supply chain, and tools for effective marketing and advocacy.
This conversation is packed with insights on creating a strong demand for your beverage brand through a bottom-up approach.
Time Stamps
00:00 Introduction and Episode Overview
01:12 Understanding the Concept of Drinks Builder
02:17 Creating Demand Before Capturing It
03:46 The Role of Bartenders and Community Building
05:18 Strategic Thinking and Supply Chain Impact
06:23 Building a Commercial Proposition
07:39 Generating Demand in Non-Traditional Venues
11:55 The Importance of Insight and Problem-Solving
21:07 The Role of Advocacy and Community in Marketing
33:08 Final Thoughts and Conclusion
About The Host: Filiberto Amati
About The Guest: Chris Maffeo
This episode is brought to you by MAFFEO DRINKS, an Advisory helping drinks leaders execute bottom-up growth while managing stakeholder expectations. You can get in touch at bottomup@maffeodrinks.com

Sep 8, 2024 • 49min
072 | Chris Maffeo | Consistency in Implementing a Clear Bottom-up Strategy | MAFFEO DRINKS
Happy 2026. This Episode is hosted by Chris Maffeo and brought to you by MAFFEO DRINKS. A Deep-Dive Analysis of This Episode is Available at maffeodrinks.com In episode 072 I was hosted by Filiberto Amati on his Growth, Brands and More Podcast.
I shared my journey from being a Sales guy in Rome to working at major beverage companies in Europe until founding MAFFEO DRINKS.
We discuss the fundamental principles of building brands from the bottom up, the importance of having a clear and consistent strategy, and how to execute it successfully across different markets and channels.
I also talk about the value of small empirical experiments, the balance between strategy and execution, and how to handle unexpected opportunities.
Tune in to gain deep insights into the art and science of beverage brand building.
Time Stamps
00:00 Introduction to the Maffeo Drinks Podcast
01:09 Interview with Filippo Bertomatti
01:56 Chris Maffeo's Career Path
05:15 Challenges and Insights in Brand Building
06:33 Defining a Good Strategy
10:50 Consistency and Simplicity in Strategy
24:39 The Role of Frugality in Brand Building
28:38 Empirical Experiments and Market Testing
39:52 Handling Unexpected Opportunities
46:35 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
About The Host: Filiberto Amati
About The Guest: Chris Maffeo
This episode is brought to you by MAFFEO DRINKS, an Advisory helping drinks leaders execute bottom-up growth while managing stakeholder expectations. You can get in touch at bottomup@maffeodrinks.com

Sep 1, 2024 • 41min
071 | Morten Stengaard | Bottom-up Expansion to New Markets | Bemakers
Happy 2026. This Episode is hosted by Chris Maffeo and brought to you by MAFFEO DRINKS. A Deep-Dive Analysis of This Episode is Available at maffeodrinks.com In episode 071, I sit down with Morten Stengaard, Co-Founder and CEO of Bemakers, to discuss the challenges and strategies of expanding into international markets. We delve into the complexities of distribution, the importance of local market engagement, and Bemakers' innovative approach to streamlining direct and indirect beverage distribution. Morten shares valuable insights on brand building, consumer engagement, and navigating the drinks industry's intricate ecosystem.N.B. If you are interested in Bemakers, mention the MAFFEO DRINKS Podcast to receive a 50% discount on the Setup fee.https://bemakers.com/ Time Stamps00:00 Introduction 00:54 Challenges in Local Distribution03:08 Expanding to International Markets04:28 Founding Beemakers: A New Approach06:23 Building Demand in New Markets07:57 The Importance of Local Market Engagement10:22 Strategies for Effective Brand Building13:56 Leveraging Direct-to-Consumer Channels37:03 Final Thoughts and Contact InformationAbout The Host: Chris MaffeoAbout The Guest: Morten Stengaard
This episode is brought to you by MAFFEO DRINKS, an Advisory helping drinks leaders execute bottom-up growth while managing stakeholder expectations. You can get in touch at bottomup@maffeodrinks.com

Aug 25, 2024 • 34min
070 | Morten Stengaard | Building a Premium Fruit Wine Category | Andersen Winery
Happy 2026. This Episode is hosted by Chris Maffeo and brought to you by MAFFEO DRINKS. A Deep-Dive Analysis of This Episode is Available at maffeodrinks.com In episode 070, I chat with Morten Stengaard, Co-founder of Andersen Winery. We discuss the intricacies of creating a new category in the beverage industry, focusing on premium fruit wines.
Morten shares insights on category vs. brand building, the importance of positioning, and the role of premium pricing.
We explore market strategies ranging from fine dining establishments to off-trade venues, highlighting the nuances of consumer education and creating demand.
Morten emphasizes the significance of seasonality and portfolio approach in keeping products relevant and appealing to customers.
Time Stamps
00:00 Introduction
01:02 Meet Morten Stengaard: Co-Founder of Andersen Winery
02:47 Building a New Beverage Category
08:14 Positioning Premium Fruit Wines
10:20 Targeting Specific Drinking Occasions
14:37 Expanding to Off-Trade Markets
26:44 Seasonality and Portfolio Approach
31:46 Conclusion
About The Host: Chris Maffeo
About The Guest: Morten Stengaard
This episode is brought to you by MAFFEO DRINKS, an Advisory helping drinks leaders execute bottom-up growth while managing stakeholder expectations. You can get in touch at bottomup@maffeodrinks.com

Jul 16, 2024 • 45min
069 | Felice Capasso | Bringing Clarity to Spirits Consumers | Sesto Senso Academy
Happy 2026. This Episode is hosted by Chris Maffeo and brought to you by MAFFEO DRINKS. A Deep-Dive Analysis of This Episode is Available at maffeodrinks.com In episode 69 of the Maffeo Drinks Podcast, Chris continues his conversation with Felice Capasso, diving deep into consumer misconceptions in the alcohol industry and how brand advocacy should be approached.
They examine consumers' misunderstandings about production processes, using the example of whisky from Scotland.
They also discuss the importance of educating consumers and professionals, the difference between creating a trend and establishing a category, and how to stand out in a crowded market.
Real-life analogies, like Italian food specialties, help illustrate the nuances of education and branding.
Additionally, the episode touches on the importance of retention in the hospitality industry's workforce and how brands can use logical, fact-based approaches to educate and engage effectively.
00:00 Introduction and Episode Overview
00:29 Consumer Misunderstandings in the Spirits Industry
03:59 The Importance of Open-Mindedness and Education
06:39 Creating and Defining Categories in the Spirits Industry
9:53 Pragmatic vs. Fluffy Storytelling
19:37 Building Category VS Cannibilizing Category
30:49 The Role of Education and Retention in the Industry
40:30 Closing Remarks and Contact Information
About The Host: Chris Maffeo
About The Guest: Felice Capasso
This episode is brought to you by MAFFEO DRINKS, an Advisory helping drinks leaders execute bottom-up growth while managing stakeholder expectations. You can get in touch at bottomup@maffeodrinks.com


