

Evernest Property Management Show
Matthew Whitaker and Spencer Sutton
If you’re a property manager looking to scale your business beyond 300, 500, or even 1,000 doors, you’ve come to the right place. You might be asking - Is it worth it? How do I do it? Where do I find the money? What about the people? Trust us, we've made every mistake you can think of...then we made some up. Listen in as we describe what worked and what didn't on our journey from 300 to 3,000 houses.
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Sep 29, 2025 • 33min
Episode 163: Here’s How Leaders Retain Top Talent
In this engaging discussion, Matt White, an Executive Advisor at Culture Index, unveils the crucial link between employee personalities and business success. He highlights how understanding and aligning individual strengths with specific roles can significantly enhance retention. Using relatable analogies, he explains how tailored communication fosters better leadership, and shares insights on diagnosing mismatches within teams. Matt emphasizes the importance of psychometric profiling in hiring, offering practical advice for cultivating a motivated and well-aligned workforce.

Sep 22, 2025 • 24min
Episode 162: From Investor to Institution: Level Up Your Property Management Business Today
Explore the transformative strategies to elevate property management through institutional practices. Discover how to guide clients in developing a portfolio-driven investment strategy that enhances your services. Learn the value of market-based rehabs and dynamic pricing to boost returns. Understand the importance of professional maintenance and prioritizing resident satisfaction for retention. Finally, uncover the secret to growing your business by cultivating strong, strategic partnerships with investors.

Sep 15, 2025 • 39min
Episode 161: Leasing and Fraud: Everything Property Owners Need to Know (Brett Drevlow)
Brett Drevlow, the Director of Leasing at Evernest, dives into the intricate world of rental properties. With a focus on 2025 leasing strategies, he shares how to effectively overcome tenant objections and utilize data-driven pricing. Brett highlights the staggering 7-12% of fraudulent applications and emphasizes the importance of rigorous tenant screening. He discusses leveraging technology, building trust with renters, and the blend of art and science that successful leasing requires to safeguard owner investments in a competitive market.

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Sep 8, 2025 • 51min
Episode 160: Can AI Replace Property Managers? (Bryan Jenkins)
In this discussion, Bryan Jenkins, President of Gentone Property Management and a veteran with 25 years in the field, shares his fascinating journey from the military to managing properties for major corporations. He delves into the essential role of relationships amid the rise of AI in property management. Bryan highlights the importance of diversifying portfolios and navigating market cycles, while suggesting that AI should enhance rather than replace human effort. He also reflects on the challenges of remote work and the future landscape of the industry.

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Sep 1, 2025 • 35min
Episode 159: How This PM Company Keeps Churn Low (Scott Hallberg & Jeremy Tallman)
Jeremy Tallman and Scott Hallberg, co-owners of T&H Realty Services in Indianapolis, share their insights on maintaining a remarkable rental owner churn rate below 15% while managing 1,200 doors. They discuss the critical role of nurturing client relationships and prioritizing renewal processes. The duo emphasizes the importance of educating property owners about market trends and maintenance costs to enhance retention. They also delve into the significance of hiring the right talent and promoting a learning culture within their growing company.

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Aug 25, 2025 • 35min
Episode 158: The Six Brutal Truths of Growing Your Property Management Business
Discover the six brutal truths behind managing a property management business. Learn why self-leadership is challenging and how the 'Circle of Insanity' can hinder progress. Embrace the pain of reflection as a catalyst for growth and understand the importance of daily disciplines. Explore how aligning team aspirations with company goals fosters effective collaboration. Uncover the various stages of growth in property management and the leadership styles needed for success. Culture is a key player in ensuring your business's longevity!

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Aug 18, 2025 • 44min
Episode 157: The Hidden Cost of Maintenance (Every Property Manager MUST Know)
In this discussion with Ray Hespen, founder of Property Meld, listeners discover how maintenance execution is crucial for property managers looking to boost net operating income (NOI). Ray shares eye-opening data on how maintenance behaviors can significantly influence tenant renewal rates, especially within the critical first 90 days. He explores strategies for aligning incentives between property managers and owners, proactive budgeting methods, and the integration of AI and innovative insurance solutions in maintenance. Tune in for transformative insights!

Aug 11, 2025 • 33min
Episode 156: Churn, Profit Margins, & Exit Plans: What Every PM Owner Needs to Know | Brad Johnson
Brad Johnson, CEO of ProfitCoach and a leading expert in scaling property management businesses, shares invaluable insights for property managers. He discusses the tough transitions to delegation and how to avoid business bottlenecks. Johnson emphasizes the critical role of uniformity in property management agreements and suggests a strategic first hire based on individual skill sets. He also delves into essential growth strategies and how to prepare a business for sale, ensuring it appeals to potential buyers.

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Aug 4, 2025 • 34min
Episode 155: We've Bought 30+ Property Management Companies... Here's What We Learned
Gray Hall, a key player in acquisitions at Evernest, shares invaluable lessons learned from buying over 30 property management companies. He reveals that acquisitions often come with unexpected challenges, including the intricacies of business integration and the importance of building trust with new owners. Hall emphasizes the necessity of local market knowledge and a dedicated acquisition team. Plus, he dives into the complexities of managing diverse owner expectations and the profound impact on employees during these transitions.

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Jul 28, 2025 • 48min
Episode 154: Here's Where Property Management Companies Lose Money... Watch Out! (Brad Johnson)
Brad Johnson, CEO of Profit Coach, shares his expertise in financial strategies tailored for property management companies. He reveals how the bottom 10% of clients can drain resources and stresses the importance of identifying profitable relationships. Discussing his unique journey from pastor to CEO, Brad emphasizes financial clarity and preparation for selling businesses. He also highlights the potential of ancillary services to boost revenue and encourages a shift in focus from door counts to true profitability for long-term success.