The Smart Real Estate Coach Podcast|Real Estate Investing

Chris Prefontaine
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Jan 22, 2025 • 29min

Episode 491: The 3 Pillars of Note Investing & The Truth About Passive Returns and Risk with Jamie Bateman

In this compelling episode of the Smart Real Estate Coach Podcast, you’ll hear from Jamie Bateman, a seasoned mortgage note investor and host of the From Adversity to Abundance podcast. Jamie shares how he transitioned from being an Army officer and W-2 employee to becoming a full-time entrepreneur in the mortgage note investment space.    He’ll guide you through the nuances of active versus passive investing, explain why building relationships is crucial in this niche market, and offer tips on managing risk effectively.    Whether you’re a seasoned investor or just starting out in creative financing, this episode is packed with actionable advice and inspiring insights tailored for you.   Key Talking Points of the Episode   00:00 Introduction 02:30 What Jamie is focused on today 03:10 The 3 pillars of note investing 05:04 Understanding active vs. passive mortgage note investing 06:32 How passive mortgage note investing works 08:20 Passive mortgage note investing returns 12:37 Lead sources for mortgage note investing 15:51 Labrador Lending mentorship program 17:43 Identifying your investing criteria for mortgage notes 21:46 The downsides or investing in mortgage notes 23:38 How to learn more about note investing from Jamie   Quotables   “It’s not all rainbows and butterflies and unicorns, and maybe it’s not for you.”   “Building that buy box is a critical piece for people because you need to be able to speak into the universe, this is what I’m looking for.”   “The inefficiencies are where opportunity lies.”   Links   Labrador Lending https://labradorlending.com/   From Adversity to Abundance https://adversity2abundance.com   Real Estate On Your Terms and Deal Structure Overtime https://wickedsmartbooks.com/podcast FREE Master’s Class https://wickedsmartacademy.com/mastersclass   FREE Strategy Session with Chris Pre https://smartrealestatecoach.com/chrisprecall   FREE Workshop https://smartrealestatecoach.com/pcws   QLS Homestudy Course https://wickedsmartacademy.com/course/qls-homestudy-4   Investor Resources https://smartrealestatecoach.com/resources   3 Paydays Apprentice https://smartrealestatecoach.com/apprentice-pod   In the Trenches Bootcamp https://smartrealestatecoach.com/ittb-pod   REI Blackbook https://smartrealestatecoach.com/REIBB-DD  
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Jan 15, 2025 • 20min

Episode 490: $1 Million in 4 Years with the 3 PayDay® Systems with Rick Abbiati

In this inspiring episode of Smart Real Estate Coach Podcast, we’re sitting down again with Rick Abbiati, a certified coach and high-six member of the Wicked Smart community. Rick shares his incredible journey to achieving financial independence through creative real estate investing.    With over $1 million in total three-payday profits and a thriving coaching practice, Rick reflects on the strategies, mindset, and discipline that helped him build a lucrative portfolio in under three years. Whether you’re looking to transition into real estate or scale your existing business, this episode is packed with actionable insights and practical advice.   Key Talking Points of the Episode   00:00 Introduction 01:55 Who is Rick Abbiati?  03:05 3 Paydays Apprentice Program 04:30 Rick’s real estate portfolio since joining the Wicked Smart Community 08:13 What is wealth stacking? 10:22 How to balance growing your real estate portfolio while working a full-time job 11:58 An example of Rick’s deals 15:03 The ROI from a community like Wicked Smart 16:22 In the Trenches Bootcamp   Quotables   “Patience and persistence are key—burning the candle at both ends for two years was worth the freedom I have now.”   “Wealth stacking isn’t just about profits—it’s about creating a long-term strategy that builds financial security.”   “Investing in yourself and joining a community like Wicked Smart is the best ROI you’ll ever make.”   Links   Ep 371 Kickstarting Your Career in Creative Real Estate, with Rick Abbiati https://smartrealestatecoach.com/podcasts/rick-abbiati/   Real Estate On Your Terms and Deal Structure Overtime https://wickedsmartbooks.com/podcast   FREE Master’s Class https://wickedsmartacademy.com/mastersclass   FREE Strategy Session with Chris Pre https://smartrealestatecoach.com/chrisprecall   FREE Workshop https://smartrealestatecoach.com/pcws   QLS Homestudy Course https://wickedsmartacademy.com/course/qls-homestudy-4   Investor Resources https://smartrealestatecoach.com/resources   3 Paydays Apprentice https://smartrealestatecoach.com/apprentice-pod   In the Trenches Bootcamp https://smartrealestatecoach.com/ittb-pod   REI Blackbook https://smartrealestatecoach.com/REIBB-DD
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Jan 8, 2025 • 38min

Episode 489: Secrets to Debt Freedom and Financial Independence with Adam Carroll

In this impactful episode of the Smart Real Estate Coach Podcast, we welcome Adam Carroll, a financial literacy advocate and the creator of the Shred Method back to the show. Adam shares his expertise on reshaping financial habits, building wealth, and achieving debt freedom through a systematic cash flow approach. We discuss the pitfalls of traditional money management, the importance of rethinking your relationship with debt, and how the Shred Method can save you tens of thousands of dollars in interest.    This episode is packed with real-world success stories and actionable insights, so it’s a must-listen if you’re ready to take control of your finances and build lasting wealth.   Key Talking Points of the Episode   00:00 Introduction 02:29 What is the Shred Method? 03:40 Shocking statistics: Over 60% of Americans spend more than they earn 05:06 Unlearning old financial habits to build newer, healthier ones 07:03 The core principles of the Shred Method 13:50 How the Shred Method can change your life 19:41 Strategies to accelerate mortgage payoffs and minimize interest expenses 23:30 How to prepare yourself for the new year financially 25:27 How HELOCs can help with finances regardless of interest rates 27:40 The Savings Analysis Tool 29:30 How to plan your finances for the next 10 years 31:53 What you should focus on this year   Quotables   “It’s not about earning more; it’s about keeping and growing what you already have.”   “Mindset is the foundation of your financial success—it dictates every decision you make with money.”   “Debt freedom isn’t just possible; it’s achievable with the right system and discipline.”   Links   Ep 418 - Living Free Through Income Efficiency, with Adam Carroll https://smartrealestatecoach.com/podcasts/adam-carroll-3/   Ep 287 - Money Beliefs, with Adam Carroll https://smartrealestatecoach.com/podcasts/adam-carroll-2/   Savings Analysis Tool https://smartrealestatecoach.com/shred Real Estate On Your Terms and Deal Structure Overtime https://wickedsmartbooks.com/podcast   FREE Master’s Class https://wickedsmartacademy.com/mastersclass   FREE Strategy Session with Chris Pre https://smartrealestatecoach.com/chrisprecall   FREE Workshop https://smartrealestatecoach.com/pcws   QLS Homestudy Course https://wickedsmartacademy.com/course/qls-homestudy-4   Investor Resources https://smartrealestatecoach.com/resources   3 Paydays Apprentice https://smartrealestatecoach.com/apprentice-pod   In the Trenches Bootcamp https://smartrealestatecoach.com/ittb-pod   REI Blackbook https://smartrealestatecoach.com/REIBB-DD
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Jan 1, 2025 • 26min

Episode 488: How to Kickstart 2025 As A Real Estate Investor

In this solo episode of the Smart Real Estate Coach Podcast, I’m kicking off the new year with actionable advice to help you set yourself up for success in 2025. I’ll walk you through the importance of conducting a “gut check” to evaluate where you are versus where you want to be, share insights on return on investment (ROI) and return on experience (ROE), and explain why creative real estate is your best strategy in today’s uncertain market. I’ll also highlight exciting opportunities like the Apprentice Program and In the Trenches Bootcamp, designed to fast-track your growth in the real estate investing world.    Whether you’re a seasoned investor or just getting started, this episode is packed with insights to help you crush your goals this year.   Key Talking Points of the Episode   00:00 Introduction 01:35 Gut check: Are you where you thought you’d be? 03:24 Understanding return on investment (ROI) versus return on expense 06:25 The value of the three-payday system: metrics and potential earnings 14:17 Return on experience (ROE) and the power of immersive learning 18:02 The importance of creative real estate in a shifting market 21:04 The Coming Wave 22:00 Visualizing your ideal December 2025   Quotables   “Your income will not exceed your skill set, mindset, and systems.”   “Stop worrying about the cost; focus on the potential return and how to get there.”   “If you’re not improving daily, your income will plateau—invest in yourself.”   Links   Real Estate On Your Terms and Deal Structure Overtime https://wickedsmartbooks.com/podcast   FREE Master’s Class https://wickedsmartacademy.com/mastersclass   FREE Strategy Session with Chris Pre https://smartrealestatecoach.com/chrisprecall   FREE Workshop https://smartrealestatecoach.com/pcws   QLS Homestudy Course https://wickedsmartacademy.com/course/qls-homestudy-4   Investor Resources https://smartrealestatecoach.com/resources   3 Paydays Apprentice https://smartrealestatecoach.com/apprentice-pod   In the Trenches Bootcamp https://smartrealestatecoach.com/ittb-pod   REI Blackbook https://smartrealestatecoach.com/REIBB-DD   The Coming Wave https://the-coming-wave.com/   Chris Prefontaine chris@smartrealestatecoach.com
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Dec 25, 2024 • 38min

Episode 487: Why Creative Financing is Key in Today’s Housing Market

In this special year-end episode of the Smart Real Estate Coach Podcast, hosts Chris Prefontaine and Zach Beach take a reflective, unscripted look back at 2024, exploring the key trends and shifts in the real estate market. They discuss how high interest rates have shaped the industry, the surge in creative financing, and the importance of adaptability in an ever-changing economic landscape. Chris and Zach also introduce innovative programs like the Apprentice Program and In the Trenches Bootcamp, designed to help real estate investors navigate uncertainty and accelerate their success in 2025.    Packed with actionable insights, inspiring community stories, and practical strategies, this episode is a must-listen for anyone looking to make the most of creative financing opportunities.   Key Talking Points of the Episode   00:00 Introduction 01:03 How rising interest rates have fueled the growth of creative financing 04:09 Why creative financing is key in today’s housing market 07:08 How uncertainty has caused a surge in creative financing deals 09:15 Launching the Apprentice Program for new real estate investors 12:47 Getting involved through The In the Trenches Bootcamp 20:30 In the Trenches Bootcamp dates for 2025 22:12 Key wins from 2024: Over 50 deals closed and $2 million generated in three-payday profits 30:41 Important metrics of 2024: How the 3-Paydays work 35:10 How you can get involved in the Wicked Smart Community in 2025   Quotables   “Creative financing isn’t just a strategy; it’s a lifeline for people navigating today’s high-interest-rate market.”   “This business isn’t about complicated strategies; it’s about dedication, people, and solving problems consistently.”   “Every decision you make today is a building block for where you’ll be in 2025—start now and set the stage for success.”   Links   Real Estate On Your Terms and Deal Structure Overtime https://wickedsmartbooks.com/podcast   FREE Master’s Class https://wickedsmartacademy.com/mastersclass   FREE Strategy Session with Chris Pre https://smartrealestatecoach.com/chrisprecall   FREE Workshop https://smartrealestatecoach.com/pcws   QLS Homestudy Course https://wickedsmartacademy.com/course/qls-homestudy-4   Investor Resources https://smartrealestatecoach.com/resources   3 Paydays Apprentice https://smartrealestatecoach.com/apprentice-pod   In the Trenches Bootcamp https://smartrealestatecoach.com/ittb-pod   REI Blackbook https://smartrealestatecoach.com/REIBB-DD
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Dec 18, 2024 • 32min

Episode 486: Why 2025 Could Be the Best Year for Real Estate Investors (And How to Prepare) with Derek Dombeck

Welcome, Wicked Smart listeners! In this episode, I sit down with the multifaceted real estate expert, Derek Dombeck, to explore the vast potential of creative deal structuring in today’s market. Derek brings over 20 years of experience in the real estate world, covering everything from wholesaling and flipping to landlord lending and managing complex transactions. Together, we dive into some of his most unique and profitable deals of 2024 and discuss the mindset needed to thrive in an ever-evolving market. Whether you’re a seasoned investor or just starting out, this episode is packed with actionable insights, including Derek’s innovative strategies for leveraging private funds, tapping into social media marketing, and adapting to market changes. Plus, hear why Derek believes 2025 is poised to be a standout year for real estate investors.   Episode Highlights: [0:00] Introduction [1:26] Meet Derek Dombeck: A real estate veteran with a national mastermind group and a knack for creative solutions. [3:43] Navigating the Wisconsin Market: Derek shares insights on the local real estate trends in the Midwest. [8:12] Breaking Down a Waterfront Project: How Derek turned a 10-acre parcel with multiple structures into a profitable subdivision deal. [10:50] A Lease Option Success Story: Using creativity and private funds to turn an owner-occupant deal into a six-figure opportunity. [20:12] Finding Deals on Facebook: Derek’s low-cost, high-impact marketing strategy using personal accounts. [24:00] Building Long-Term Success: Why consistency and relationships are key to thriving in real estate. [26:45] Preparing for 2025: Derek’s predictions for market trends, interest rates, and where opportunities will arise.   Links & Resources: Real Estate On Your Terms and Deal Structure Overtime https://wickedsmartbooks.com/podcast FREE Master’s Class https://wickedsmartacademy.com/mastersclass FREE Strategy Session with Chris Pre https://smartrealestatecoach.com/chrisprecall FREE Workshop https://smartrealestatecoach.com/pcws QLS Homestudy Course https://wickedsmartacademy.com/course/qls-homestudy-4 Investor Resources https://smartrealestatecoach.com/resources 3 Paydays Apprentice https://smartrealestatecoach.com/apprentice-pod In the Trenches Bootcamp https://smartrealestatecoach.com/ittb-pod REI Blackbook https://smartrealestatecoach.com/REIBB-DD   Closing Thoughts: If you’re ready to take charge of your real estate journey, now’s the time to act. Dive into our Quantum Leap Home Study Course or join the Wicked Smart Apprentice Program for hands-on coaching and support. Don’t forget to rate, review, and share this episode with fellow investors looking to kickstart their 2025 goals!
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Dec 11, 2024 • 40min

Episode 485: Overcome Limiting Beliefs About Money, Relationships, & Purpose with Ed Rush

In this engaging episode, we’re sitting down with Ed Rush, a former Marine Corps fighter pilot, speaker, and bestselling author of God Talks. Ed takes us on his journey from military service to entrepreneurship, showing how mindset, discipline, and spiritual connection can transform your life and business. Drawing from his experience as a fighter pilot and business strategist, Ed shares practical ways you can align your mindset and skillset to overcome mental blocks, gain clarity, and achieve lasting success.    This episode is packed with actionable advice, spiritual insights, and personal stories to help you unlock your potential.   Key Talking Points of the Episode   00:00 Introduction 03:04 The story behind God Talks 06:35 How one event gave Ed the idea to write God Talks 11:16 The process of spiritual journaling 14:48 The science behind connecting with your purpose and retraining your brain 19:50 How much time to spend on spiritual journaling 22:10 What spiritual journaling can open up for you 26:25 How curiosity can unlock powerful breakthroughs 31:43 Aligning mindset and skillset for success in business and real estate 33:51 How your mindset can hinder growth and wealth creation 35:39 How to learn more about Ed’s team and God Talks   Quotables   “The biggest obstacle to success is not external; it’s the internal blocks in your mind.”   “Curiosity is the only requirement for breakthroughs—approach life with an open mind.”   “Mindset is the foundation, skillset is the structure, and willingness to risk is the roof of success.”   Links   God Talks https://godtalks.com/   Ed Rush https://edrush.com/   Real Estate On Your Terms and Deal Structure Overtime https://wickedsmartbooks.com/podcast   FREE Master’s Class https://wickedsmartacademy.com/mastersclass   FREE Strategy Session with Chris Pre https://smartrealestatecoach.com/chrisprecall   FREE Workshop https://smartrealestatecoach.com/pcws   QLS Homestudy Course https://wickedsmartacademy.com/course/qls-homestudy-4   Investor Resources https://smartrealestatecoach.com/resources   3 Paydays Apprentice https://smartrealestatecoach.com/apprentice-pod   In the Trenches Bootcamp https://smartrealestatecoach.com/ittb-pod   REI Blackbook https://smartrealestatecoach.com/REIBB-DD  
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Dec 4, 2024 • 18min

Episode 484: The 3 Paydays System: Creative Real Estate Strategies

In this episode, we’re breaking down how real estate investors and realtors can take their businesses to the next level by mastering creative real estate strategies. Whether it’s structuring win-win deals, solving tough seller situations, or expanding your toolbox, learning creative real estate opens up endless opportunities.    Tune in to discover how these strategies can help you close more deals, serve more clients, and grow your real estate business faster!   Key Talking Points of the Episode   00:00 Introduction 01:02 How creative real estate is changing the industry 02:33 What are you missing if you’re not doing creative real estate yet? 05:10 Why you should learn creative real estate today 08:07 The 3 Paydays System 09:21 Action items to help you learn creative real estate 11:59 The formula for creative real estate 14:28 How you can get involved in the Wicked Smart Community   Quotables   “There’s a wave right now – a wave that historically creates millionaires, if you look back historically, and it’s the best in my 33 years, so I wanna make sure that you’re part of the revolution and that you catch the wave.”   “All deals that you can’t convert lead-wise, learn how to convert them or a subset of them, learn how to convert them to creative deals.”   “As soon as you learn the skillset, nobody can take it from you. You own it for life.”   Links   Real Estate On Your Terms and Deal Structure Overtime https://wickedsmartbooks.com/podcast   FREE Master’s Class https://wickedsmartacademy.com/mastersclass   FREE Strategy Session with Chris Pre https://smartrealestatecoach.com/chrisprecall   FREE Workshop https://smartrealestatecoach.com/pcws   QLS Homestudy Course https://wickedsmartacademy.com/course/qls-homestudy-4   Investor Resources https://smartrealestatecoach.com/resources   3 Paydays Apprentice https://smartrealestatecoach.com/apprentice-pod   In the Trenches Bootcamp https://smartrealestatecoach.com/ittb-pod   REI Blackbook https://smartrealestatecoach.com/REIBB-DD  
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Nov 27, 2024 • 34min

Episode 483: How to Change Your Mindset to a Winning Mentality with Shane Carter

In this episode, we welcome Shane Carter, CEO of Hampshire Capital and a real estate veteran with over 25 years of experience. Shane shares his journey from flipping homes and managing a construction business to acquiring and managing over $350 million in multifamily and commercial assets. He also discusses the critical lessons learned from past mistakes, the importance of partnerships, and how his focus on mindset and relationships has driven his success.  Shane’s story provides valuable insights for listeners at all stages of their real estate investing journey, from new investors to seasoned pros looking to scale. Key Talking Points of the Episode 00:00 Introduction 02:34 Who is Shane Carter? 05:00 How Shane got into real estate 07:23 Transitioning from transactional income to wealth-building investments 08:49 Lessons learned from the 2008 crash 12:09 How networking can help real estate investors succeed 14:22 Abundance vs. Scarcity mindset in real estate 18:37 What practices can help you change your mindset 20:23 The importance of focusing on your “why” and not the “how” 22:08 Optimize Your Life: The Leader’s Blueprint to Leveraging the Mind, Body, and Spirit 25:28 Work-life balance vs. Work-life integration 27:37 The power of mentorship and proximity in scaling your business 29:06 Get connected with Shane!   Quotables   “Surround yourself with people who are smarter, more experienced, and better than you—it’s the fastest way to grow.”   “You don’t need to know how to do everything. Build a team of experts and lead with vision.”   “Mindset is 98% of success. Once you align your mindset, everything else falls into place.”   Links   Hampshire Capital https://hampshirecap.com/   Shane Carter https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanecarternh/ Optimize Your Life https://www.amazon.com/Optimize-Your-Life-Blueprint-Leveraging/dp/B0DG3WS8QH   Real Estate On Your Terms and Deal Structure Overtime https://wickedsmartbooks.com/podcast   FREE Master’s Class https://wickedsmartacademy.com/mastersclass   FREE Strategy Session with Chris Pre https://smartrealestatecoach.com/chrisprecall   FREE Workshop https://smartrealestatecoach.com/pcws   QLS Homestudy Course https://wickedsmartacademy.com/course/qls-homestudy-4   Investor Resources https://smartrealestatecoach.com/resources   3 Paydays Apprentice https://smartrealestatecoach.com/apprentice   In the Trenches Bootcamp https://smartrealestatecoach.com/ittb-pod   REI Blackbook https://smartrealestatecoach.com/REIBB-DD
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Nov 20, 2024 • 34min

Episode 482: Scaling from $100K to $1M in Business with Brett Gilliland

In this episode, host Chris Prefontaine reconnects with his coach and mentor, Brett Gilliland, CEO of Elite Entrepreneurs. Brett shares insights from his years of helping businesses scale, including strategies to transition from solopreneurship to building a high-performing team. Drawing on his experiences leading organizational development at Keap (formerly Infusionsoft) and guiding businesses through their seven- to eight-figure journeys, Brett offers actionable advice for entrepreneurs looking to grow.    From understanding the stages of business growth to avoiding common pitfalls, this conversation is packed with value for anyone eager to take their business to the next level.   Key Talking Points of the Episode   00:00 Introduction 03:17 The mental shifts required to transition from solopreneurship to scaling a business 05:19 What it takes to scale a business successfully 07:56 How Elite Entrepreneurs helps businesses scale the right way 11:10 The key stages of business growth: going from $100K to $1M and beyond 13:34 How to avoid “5-to-9 management” in your business 20:24 The importance of understanding your numbers and tracking revenue per employee 24:34 Elite Entrepreneurs programs for businesses under $1M 27:20 Brett’s advice for entrepreneurs looking to scale their businesses   Quotables   “Scaling isn’t for everyone, but for those who want it, the path is clear and achievable.”   “Your network is your net worth—partner with the right people to make growth possible.”   “You can do this. It’s not for an elect few; it’s for anyone willing to learn, act, and persist.”   Links   Elite Entrepreneurs https://growwithelite.com   Brett Gilliland brett@growwithelite.com   Real Estate On Your Terms and Deal Structure Overtime https://wickedsmartbooks.com/podcast   FREE Master’s Class https://wickedsmartacademy.com/mastersclass   FREE Strategy Session with Chris Pre https://smartrealestatecoach.com/chrisprecall   FREE Workshop https://smartrealestatecoach.com/pcws   QLS Homestudy Course https://wickedsmartacademy.com/course/qls-homestudy-4   Investor Resources https://smartrealestatecoach.com/resources   3 Paydays Apprentice https://smartrealestatecoach.com/apprentice   In the Trenches Bootcamp https://smartrealestatecoach.com/ittb-pod   REI Blackbook https://smartrealestatecoach.com/REIBB-DD

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