
Night Science
Where do ideas come from? In each episode, scientists Itai Yanai and Martin Lercher explore science's creative side with a leading colleague. New episodes come out every second Monday.
Latest episodes

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Feb 26, 2024 • 36min
53 | Todd Golub and bottom-up creativity
Todd Golub, Director of the Broad Institute of MIT and Harvard, is a leading figure in cancer research and advocates for bottom-up creativity in science. He highlights how true scientific breakthroughs evolve from organic, collaborative efforts rather than strict designs. Golub discusses the importance of hiring researchers willing to embrace change and the synergy between art and science. He emphasizes that flexibility and interdisciplinary collaboration are vital for fostering innovative discoveries, urging scientists to embrace unexpected results.

Feb 12, 2024 • 39min
52 | Sean B. Carroll – he told some good stories
Sean Carroll is a world-renowned scientist, author, educator, and an Oscar-nominated film producer. Sean sees storytelling as the key to all he does. Similar to how musicians get inspiration by listening to other people’s music, Sean attributes his own creativity to his insatiable habit of reading about other people’s science – that’s how he “fertilizes his garden”. To tell a good story, he urges us to seek the emotions. But storytelling is not just for communication: in a research project, we also must develop a narrative, connecting the dots.For more information on Night Science, visit https://www.biomedcentral.com/collections/night-science .

Jan 29, 2024 • 39min
51 | Nigel Goldenfeld and the jazz of impossible problems
Nigel Goldenfeld, a Chancellor's Distinguished Professor in Physics at UC San Diego, compares scientific research to jazz improvisation. He discusses how scientists, like musicians, must evolve from rigid structures to creative collaboration, encouraging students to embrace unconventional ideas. Goldenfeld emphasizes the joy of ‘playing off’ each other during discussions, and the importance of tackling unique problems. The conversation also touches on the dynamics of group sizes for effective brainstorming, revealing that innovation thrives where diverse thoughts can freely collide.

Jan 15, 2024 • 24min
50 | It takes two to think
The podcast discusses the importance of talking to someone to generate new ideas. It emphasizes the value of sharing half-baked ideas, embracing collaboration and improvisation, and the benefits of conversation and collaboration in idea generation. It also explores the practice of mathematicians having discussions in elevators to eliminate obstacles and generate new ideas.

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Jan 8, 2024 • 44min
49 | Rich White on living on the edge cases
Rich White, Professor of cancer studies at Oxford University, talks about the process that led to a result being more interesting than the result itself. He thrives on working on common questions with scientists from different disciplines. Rich identifies new questions by finding connections between edge cases in research papers. The importance of friendship and chemistry in scientific collaboration is emphasized. The speakers discuss the significance of exploring edge cases and making connections in different fields, understanding different disciplines, and inspiring others to pursue a career in thinking.

Dec 25, 2023 • 41min
48 | Carolyn Bertozzi and a long game called science
Carolyn Bertozzi, Nobel Prize-winning chemist, discusses the unstructured process of science and how breakthroughs can come from unexpected places. She also highlights the challenges faced by newcomers in the field and emphasizes the importance of personal chemistry in running a successful lab. The podcast explores the distinction between day science and night science, the role of creativity in research, and the value of collaborations. It also discusses the frustrations and breakthroughs in tuberculosis study and the concept of the long game in science.

Dec 11, 2023 • 35min
47 | Stephen Quake and the Creative Network
Join Stephen Quake, a Stanford professor and Head of Science at the Chan Zuckerberg Initiative, as he shares insights from his groundbreaking work in DNA sequencing. He discusses the surprising benefits of jetlag and the importance of generosity in scientific collaborations. Quake emphasizes the value of embracing mistakes in research, advocating for education that nurtures creativity and resilience. He also highlights how personal experiences shape scientific inquiry, encouraging future scientists to maintain faith in the unpredictable journey of discovery.

Nov 27, 2023 • 31min
46 | John Mattick and doing what your mother taught you
John Mattick, a Professor of RNA Biology at the University of New South Wales, challenges the notion of 'junk' DNA, arguing for its crucial regulatory roles. He reflects on how engaging in debates with his mother and aunts shaped his analytical skills. Mattick emphasizes the importance of publishing manifestos to boost research and advocates for questioning established scientific paradigms. He encourages students to embrace creativity by seeking out what doesn’t make sense, reminding us that intuition is vital in tackling complex genetic ideas.

Nov 13, 2023 • 35min
45 | Peter Ratcliffe on being the Master of Daydreams
Peter J. Ratcliffe, 2019 Nobel Prize recipient in Physiology or Medicine, discusses the importance of defining your own research question. He shares his groundbreaking work on oxygen sensing in animal cells and the trade-off between planning and discovery. The guest explores the benefits and drawbacks of multiple people in meetings and highlights the unexpected path to major discoveries. They also discuss alternative measures of scientific quality beyond key performance indicators.

Oct 30, 2023 • 42min
44 | Christina Curtis and keeping the faith in the process
Christina Curtis, Professor of Medicine and Director of AI and Cancer Genomics at Stanford, discusses the importance of not being biased in research, her background in statistical genetics, and the use of generative AI in scientific creativity. They explore knowledge gaps, the impact of AI in medicine and science, and the role of data and training in shaping scientific perspectives. They also delve into the culture of scientific research, emphasizing breaks, dialogue, curiosity, and maintaining faith in the process.
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