Rich White, Professor of cancer studies at Oxford University, talks about the process that led to a result being more interesting than the result itself. He thrives on working on common questions with scientists from different disciplines. Rich identifies new questions by finding connections between edge cases in research papers. The importance of friendship and chemistry in scientific collaboration is emphasized. The speakers discuss the significance of exploring edge cases and making connections in different fields, understanding different disciplines, and inspiring others to pursue a career in thinking.
Exploring the edges of different studies and fields and connecting seemingly unrelated information can lead to unique and interesting scientific questions.
Paying attention to obvious and simple questions, even if they have been overlooked, can result in new scientific insights.
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The importance of distilling complex information
Rich White discusses the process of distilling complex scientific papers to uncover the core questions they don't address. He emphasizes the significance of exploring the edges of different studies and fields and connecting seemingly unrelated pieces of information. This process allows him to uncover patterns and abstract concepts that lead to unique and interesting questions. Rich's approach involves looking for strange data points and unexpected connections that may be overlooked or mentioned in passing in scientific papers.
The importance of collaboration and interdisciplinary thinking
Rich shares his experience collaborating with Eta and how their friendship and shared curiosity led to fruitful scientific collaborations. They discuss the value of collaborated thinking, especially when approaching questions from different fields. Rich highlights the importance of understanding the language and concepts of different disciplines and how the abstraction and pattern-finding process can occur when drawing connections between seemingly disparate fields.
The role of curiosity and simplicity in scientific questioning
Rich talks about his approach to asking interesting and unique questions. He believes that paying attention to obvious and simple questions, even if they have been previously overlooked, can lead to new scientific insights. Rich mentions the importance of embracing curiosity-driven research and not being bound by immediate impact or translation. He also discusses how simplicity and distillation of complex ideas can make scientific questions more accessible and engaging.
The relationship between movement, creativity, and the scientific process
Rich explores the connection between movement, creativity, and the scientific process. He shares his personal experience of needing to be in motion, such as walking, to enhance his thinking and creative abilities. Rich recognizes the value of allowing his mind to wander and abstract ideas while in motion, and then stopping to distill and solidify those ideas. He discusses the intersection of intuition, movement, and creativity in scientific thinking.
Rich White studies cancer as a professor at Oxford University. Rich is not only a brilliant physician-scientist but also a great friend of Itai Yanai, one of the two Night Science hosts. In this episode, Rich talks about how often the process that led to a particular result can be more interesting than the result itself – something that is true not only in science but also in fields such as art or writing. He emphasizes that the best research strategy depends greatly on the researcher’s personality. He himself thrives on being on the edge of a field, ideally working on a common question with scientists from different disciplines or even philosophers and historians. Rich recounts how he identifies new questions by finding connections between the edge cases of several papers – observations the authors couldn’t make sense of, but still put in their manuscripts. And Rich and Itai reveal the true story behind one of their joint papers, where the breakthrough came in an open-ended creative meeting from staring at the data – after a first, much more boring draft had already been written!
This episode was supported by Research Theory (researchtheory.org) and the Independent Media Initiative (theimi.co). For more information on Night Science, visit https://www.biomedcentral.com/collections/night-science .
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