
Night Science
Where do ideas come from? In each episode, scientists Itai Yanai and Martin Lercher explore science's creative side with a leading colleague. New episodes come out every second Monday.
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Apr 7, 2025 • 38min
73 | Ethan Mollick and a million Einsteins in a server
Ethan Mollick, a Wharton professor and author of “Co-Intelligence,” dives into how generative AI like ChatGPT can supercharge scientific creativity. He reveals that AI thrives on generating ideas and making connections across disciplines, serving as a supportive brainstorm partner. Ethan discusses the unique role of AI's 'hallucinations' in spurring innovation and how collaborative workflows can elevate research. He advocates for scientists to embrace these tools for better creativity, while also rethinking traditional methods in light of AI's advancements.

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Mar 24, 2025 • 25min
72 | David Baker and the lab's communal brain
David Baker, a University of Washington professor and 2024 Nobel Prize winner, shares insights on designing proteins with AI. He discusses his lab's innovative 'communal brain' structure, where researchers work interconnectedly to foster creativity. The conversation dives into AI's role in scientific inquiry, questioning its true creative potential. Baker also addresses the pressing funding crisis affecting young researchers, emphasizing the need for a collaborative atmosphere to drive future breakthroughs in science.

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Mar 10, 2025 • 35min
71 | Victor Ambros and the unique ways we perceive wonder
Victor Ambros, a Nobel Prize-winning developmental biologist from UMass Medical School, shares insights on improvisational science and the dynamic nature of research collaboration. He highlights the importance of curiosity-driven inquiry and the role of creativity in scientific discovery. The conversation touches on how fostering confidence in young researchers can challenge established norms. Additionally, Ambros discusses AI’s growing significance in synthesizing knowledge and enhancing idea cross-pollination at scientific conferences, paving the way for innovative breakthroughs.

Feb 17, 2025 • 45min
70 | Meghan O’Rourke on being the artist and their caretaker
Meghan O'Rourke, acclaimed author of The Invisible Kingdom, poet, and Yale professor, joins us to explore the parallels between creative writing and scientific discovery. She describes how deep immersion in a project attracts unexpected insights, and she introduces Night Poetry and Day Poetry, inspired by our concepts of Night Science and Day Science—where night represents raw creation and day embodies refinement. We discuss how scientists and writers face similar challenges: questioning assumptions, balancing structure with spontaneity, and finding meaning in unexpected connections. Through Meghan's insights, we discover how creativity manifests similarly across disciplines, and how being an outsider can often lead to fresh perspectives.For more information about Night Science, visit https://www.biomedcentral.com/collections/night-science .

Jan 27, 2025 • 41min
69 | Keith Yamamoto and the freedom to fail
Keith Yamamoto, professor and science policy leader at UCSF, discusses with us how modern science became trapped in a system that discourages creative risk-taking. Keith contrasts academia's fear of failure with Silicon Valley's acceptance of it as just another day at the office. We also talk about Keith’s introduction of a new NIH grant category specifically for paradigm-challenging ideas, where he deliberately chose generalist reviewers rather than domain experts who might reject ideas threatening their own paradigms.For more information about Night Science, visit https://www.biomedcentral.com/collections/night-science .

Jan 14, 2025 • 34min
68 | Peter Godfrey-Smith and middle class science
Peter Godfrey-Smith, a renowned Professor of Philosophy of Science at the University of Sydney, dives into the complex interplay between creativity in science and philosophy. He discusses how scientists operate within structured paradigms while philosophers have more freedom. The conversation highlights the role of 'middle-class science'—independent labs that foster innovation—illustrated by breakthroughs like CRISPR. Peter also draws a captivating parallel between the transition of night to day and the evolution of scientific thought, reminiscent of Händel's aria.

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Dec 16, 2024 • 40min
67 | A hypothesis is a liability
In this episode, Itai and Martin delve into the interplay between hypothesis-driven and exploratory research, drawing on insights from past guests of the Night Science Podcast. They discuss how being focused on a single hypothesis can prevent us from making discoveries, while emphasizing the value of open-ended exploratory analyses—often dismissed as “fishing expeditions.” The episode also examines the risks inherent to both approaches: hypothesis-driven Day Science may overlook key insights, while exploratory Night Science risks being misled by randomness.This episode was supported by Research Theory (researchtheory.org). For more information about Night Science, visit https://www.biomedcentral.com/collections/night-science .

Nov 25, 2024 • 51min
66 | Michael Fischbach and the scientific decision tree
Michael Fischbach, a Stanford professor specializing in chemistry, microbiology, and genetics, shares invaluable insights on selecting impactful research problems. He emphasizes the importance of investing time in problem selection and the concept of 'dating' ideas before committing. Fischbach discusses the balance between fixed and floating project parameters and the need to embrace risks strategically. He also introduces the idea of 'killer experiments' to determine project viability early on and encourages turning crises into opportunities for deeper understanding.

Nov 4, 2024 • 31min
65 | James Kaufman and the art of creativity maintenance
James Kaufman, a Professor of Educational Psychology at the University of Connecticut, specializes in creativity research. In this conversation, he delves into the intricate relationship between personality traits and creativity, emphasizing the significant role of openness and conscientiousness. Kaufman discusses the 4C model of creativity and how unique teaching methods can stimulate student engagement. Plus, he highlights metacognition—understanding one's creative strengths—as a vital tool for enhancing creative potential and problem-solving skills.

Sep 30, 2024 • 43min
64 | Robert Weinberg and the perils of being a Fachidiot
Robert Weinberg, a leading cancer researcher at MIT, shares his insights on fostering innovation in science. He emphasizes the necessity of blending ideas from diverse fields to drive breakthroughs. The discussion highlights the importance of personal interactions among researchers, revealing how informal collaborations can spark creativity. Weinberg also stresses the need to continuously question the relevance of research focuses amidst ever-evolving methodologies and the role of AI in reshaping scientific inquiry. His anecdotes showcase the nonlinear path of discovery.
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