

SEO in 2025
Majestic.com
SEO is continuing to change at an alarming pace. And yet, in some sense, the principles of good SEO remain the same.
Hello, and welcome to SEO in 2025 – a significant repository of current thinking from many of the world’s leading SEOs.
We're pleased to be able to welcome you to the fourth book and fourth series in this podcast, now well and truly an annual tradition, brought to you by Majestic.
“Consider this book the Bible of SEO—a comprehensive, fresh, and highly actionable resource that sets the standard in the industry each year.”
PAM AUNGST CRONIN
President/Owner, PamAnnMarketing.com
“SEOin2025 is the best up-to-date, comprehensive resource out there to understand the main SEO trends and how to stay ahead next year.”
ALEYDA SOLIS
International SEO Consultant & Founder, Orainti
“I’ve been participating in this series for years now and have found the value to be consistently high!”
KEVIN INDIG
Growth Consultant, Kevin-Indig.com
“The ‘SEO in’ series has become my annual touchstone to get an overview of what some of the best in the industry are thinking.”
MARK WILLIAMS-COOK
Director, AlsoAsked/Candour
“The SEO in 2022, 2023, 2024 and now 2025 is by far my favorite way to refresh my SEO knowledge and get some inspiration before the new year. It is also super helpful for planning priorities or things to test in the following year. That's the book for December! Thank you for this initiative. I don't think this is definitely the best of the best books with SEO tips.”
OLGA ZARR
SEO Consultant at SEOSLY
“David's annual edition where the world’s leading SEOs share their number 1, actionable tip is an essential book for any digital marketer who wants to create actionable and valuable strategies for the year ahead and am honoured to be part of 2025's edition. The different skillsets of selected SEOs mean you'll be spoilt for choice on the different approaches to SEO and how they are valuable to you, your business and you clients.”
ALEX MOSS
Principal SEO, Yoast & Co-Founder, FireCask
“Once again, David has brought together some of the brightest minds in the industry and squeezed them together to produce raw, distilled insight. This is a must-read for anybody wanting to get ahead online.”
JONO ALDERSON
Independent Technical SEO Consultant
“The annual SEO book by Majestic and David is truly the ultimate SEO cheat code of the year! It's packed with timeless strategies and smart approaches—no shortcuts here, just solid insights for sustainable success. Whether you're a beginner or a seasoned pro, this book has something for everyone. I'm honoured to be part of a community of elite SEOs sharing our knowledge to help others succeed. This is a must-read!”
DRE DE VERA
Host/Producer, SEO Video Show
Hello, and welcome to SEO in 2025 – a significant repository of current thinking from many of the world’s leading SEOs.
We're pleased to be able to welcome you to the fourth book and fourth series in this podcast, now well and truly an annual tradition, brought to you by Majestic.
“Consider this book the Bible of SEO—a comprehensive, fresh, and highly actionable resource that sets the standard in the industry each year.”
PAM AUNGST CRONIN
President/Owner, PamAnnMarketing.com
“SEOin2025 is the best up-to-date, comprehensive resource out there to understand the main SEO trends and how to stay ahead next year.”
ALEYDA SOLIS
International SEO Consultant & Founder, Orainti
“I’ve been participating in this series for years now and have found the value to be consistently high!”
KEVIN INDIG
Growth Consultant, Kevin-Indig.com
“The ‘SEO in’ series has become my annual touchstone to get an overview of what some of the best in the industry are thinking.”
MARK WILLIAMS-COOK
Director, AlsoAsked/Candour
“The SEO in 2022, 2023, 2024 and now 2025 is by far my favorite way to refresh my SEO knowledge and get some inspiration before the new year. It is also super helpful for planning priorities or things to test in the following year. That's the book for December! Thank you for this initiative. I don't think this is definitely the best of the best books with SEO tips.”
OLGA ZARR
SEO Consultant at SEOSLY
“David's annual edition where the world’s leading SEOs share their number 1, actionable tip is an essential book for any digital marketer who wants to create actionable and valuable strategies for the year ahead and am honoured to be part of 2025's edition. The different skillsets of selected SEOs mean you'll be spoilt for choice on the different approaches to SEO and how they are valuable to you, your business and you clients.”
ALEX MOSS
Principal SEO, Yoast & Co-Founder, FireCask
“Once again, David has brought together some of the brightest minds in the industry and squeezed them together to produce raw, distilled insight. This is a must-read for anybody wanting to get ahead online.”
JONO ALDERSON
Independent Technical SEO Consultant
“The annual SEO book by Majestic and David is truly the ultimate SEO cheat code of the year! It's packed with timeless strategies and smart approaches—no shortcuts here, just solid insights for sustainable success. Whether you're a beginner or a seasoned pro, this book has something for everyone. I'm honoured to be part of a community of elite SEOs sharing our knowledge to help others succeed. This is a must-read!”
DRE DE VERA
Host/Producer, SEO Video Show
Episodes
Mentioned books

Jan 27, 2025 • 16min
Spend your time where your audience spends theirs – with Ebere Cecilia Jonathan
As Izabela mentioned, the online world is too vast to be everywhere at once, so Freelance SEO Consultant Ebere Cecilia Jonathan recommends seeking out the places your users like to hang out.Ebere says: “With the way things are going, it’s almost impossible to lay your hand on a specific tip. Aside from the classic advice of allowing your sites to be crawlable and indexable so that your website can be found, every SEO should focus on spending as much time as possible where their targeted audience is spending the most of their time.”Read the full transcript of Ebere's interview at https://majestic.com/seo-in-2025/ebere-cecilia-jonathan

Jan 24, 2025 • 17min
Think beyond Google – with Izabela Wisniewska
Users are venturing outside the traditional search box, so Izabela Wisniewska from Creatos Media believes it’s essential that SEOs start doing the same.Izabela says: “Think beyond Google and start optimizing for other search engines and other platforms.What other search engines should SEOs be optimizing for?“We should definitely start thinking about Bing when we talk about search engines. Of course, Google is still the master, and they own the majority of search queries, but Bing is slowly climbing back. It’s getting some of Google’s percentages from the search market."Read the full transcript of Izabela's interview at https://majestic.com/seo-in-2025/izabela-wisniewska

Jan 23, 2025 • 17min
Stop trying to game every minute change to the SERPs – with Alex Moss
While Pam and Mufaddal encourage you to be open to new SERP features, Alex Moss from Yoast cautions against panicking over every little change and losing sight of the woods for the trees.Alex says: “Stop obsessing about – and experimenting too much with – how to game the way that new technology interacts with the SERPs.I’m mostly referring to AIO (AI overviews) and the way that’s starting to take over search results pages.”Read the full transcript of Alex's interview at https://majestic.com/seo-in-2025/alex-moss

Jan 22, 2025 • 15min
Craft Your Brand Story with Precision and Impact Using SEO & PPC In Synergy - with Serge Nguele
Serge Nguele shares with David Bain why you should craft your brand story with precision and impact using SEO & PPC in synergy.Talking points include:What do you mean by crafting Your Brand Story with Precision and Impact?Why is this important?How do you do this using SEO & PPC In Synergy?What tools do you use?What lessons can SEOs learn from PPC?What questions should SEOs be asking paid search experts?What data should they be sharing?How does this impact the brand story?Read the full transcript of Serge's interview at https://majestic.com/seo-in-2025/additional-insights/serge-nguele

Jan 21, 2025 • 18min
Start viewing AI overviews as a help and not a hindrance – with Mufaddal Sadriwala
If Pam didn’t convince you, Mufaddal Sadriwala from Assembly MENA is here to put your fears to rest and get you embracing AI overviews as a friend instead of battling with them as a foe.Mufaddal says: “Stop worrying about AI overviews.Obviously, it’s the most discussed topic but, from my point of view, AIO is not a threat to SEOs or organic traffic. In fact, it is going to help us maintain the traffic that we’re getting.It’s not a threat. It’s something that is going to aid us.”Read the full transcript of Mufaddal's interview at https://majestic.com/seo-in-2025/mufaddal-sadriwala

Jan 20, 2025 • 16min
Focus on AI overviews – with Pam Aungst Cronin
In many ways, the shifting SERP can feel like uncharted territory. Thankfully, Pam Aungst Cronin from Pam Ann Marketing is drawing up the maps for AI overviews as the new frontier.Pam says: “Focus on optimizing for AI overviews in Google, Bing, and even OpenAI’s forthcoming search engine – as well as the 10 blue links.You can sort of think of them as one and the same because initial studies show that getting into Google’s AI overviews often means you’re ranking in the traditional 10 blue links as well.”Are all the websites referenced in the AI overviews going to come from the first page?“Hopefully we’re going to see that diversify a bit. This could be an opportunity for SEOs to get more exposure for smaller businesses, if you optimize specifically for the long tail queries and answers that show up in AI overviews."Read the full transcript of Pam's interview at https://majestic.com/seo-in-2025/pam-aungst-cronin

Jan 17, 2025 • 16min
Use AI to learn about who your users are – with Eli Schwartz
Like Folashade, Eli Schwartz, author of Product-Led SEO, believes that AI tools can help you gain a deeper understanding of the people behind the search queries.Eli says: “Everyone’s been talking about using AI for SEO, and they’re focusing on the wrong aspect of it.AI shouldn’t be used to create content; it should be used to understand your users and figure out who they are. You can then use AI to create some of that content, but the magic of AI is understanding the things that you wouldn’t already know about your users.”Is there a particular AI that you’re using?“I was using ChatGPT, then I moved over to Gemini. I tried Perplexity but it always introduces itself by repeating the prompt, and I find it really annoying."Read the full transcript of Eli's interview at https://majestic.com/seo-in-2025/eli-schwartz

Jan 16, 2025 • 16min
Uncover crucial insights by analysing your support queries – with Folashade Uba
Folashade Uba from Maersk has uncovered another often-overlooked but abundant source of user insight, direct from the horse’s mouth: support queries. Folashade says: “Analysing support queries is crucial for identifying customers’ pain points, uncovering their search intent, and discovering patterns and emerging trends in 2025.You can also use topic modelling to enhance your SEO strategies.”What are the best support queries to analyse?“There are a lot of different ones, obviously. You can get them from contact forms, calls, emails, etc. It all depends on the platform that you use to gather these support queries."Read the full transcript of Folashade's interview at https://majestic.com/seo-in-2025/folashade-uba

Jan 15, 2025 • 17min
Demand doesn't start on Google - with Travis Tallent
Travis Tallent shares with David Bain that knowing where your audience's demand starts makes your SEO demand capture 10X stronger.Talking points include:When you say 10x stronger, what do you mean by that?How do you know where your audience's demand starts?What tools do you use to determine this?How do you know how to meet that demand?How do you know that this demand will convert to web traffic?How do you measure success?In general, what are some most effective demand generators for different types of businesses at the moment?Read the full transcript of Travis's interview at https://majestic.com/seo-in-2025/additional-insights/travis-tallent

Jan 14, 2025 • 15min
Mine sales conversations to find topics with low competition & high intent – with Michael MacMillan
Given the importance of understanding your users, you’re probably wondering where you can learn what they want. Michael MacMillan from MacMillan Search believes sales conversations are the place to look.Michael says: “Avoid ultra-competitive topics with limited intent by mining sales conversations for bottom-of-funnel content.”What are examples of ultra-competitive topics?“Project management is a big one. Right now, monday.com ranks for ‘project management’, but there’s mixed intent around that query. There are people looking to become project managers and people trying to understand what project management is, and they’ve got a strong position there."Read the full transcript of Crystal's interview at https://majestic.com/seo-in-2025/michael-macmillan