
Gym World Worldwide
Gym World is a weekly show about making money in the fitness industry.
Join the co-founders of Kilo, John Franklin and Mateo Lopez, as they interview some of the industry's most successful entrepreneurs.
Latest episodes

Sep 29, 2023 • 1h 10min
What's going on with Gym Launch?
Cale Owen, CEO of Gym Launch, discusses the fitness industry, data-driven decision-making for gym owners, marketing strategies, content creation, running ads, hiring strategies, and the future of Gym Launch.

Sep 22, 2023 • 60min
Trends that will shape the future of fitness
Anthony Vennare, Founder of Fitt Insider, discusses industry trends, marketing strategies, online programming, sponsored content, and opportunities for growth in the fitness industry. He also highlights the importance of boosting online presence, creating a sellable business, and adapting to changing consumer behavior.

Sep 15, 2023 • 1h 16min
How this gym owner retired at 35
John Franklin (https://twitter.com/JohnIsBuilding) & Mateo Lopez chat with Stu Brauer, a retired gym owner, about how investing in real estate can help other gym owners retire in 10 years or less.
P.S. If you like the show, then you'll love the Gym World newsletter. Every Friday, John Franklin breaks down the possibilities of making money in the fitness industry. Subscribe here (https://usekilo.com/gym-world/) so you don't miss out.
Show notes:
(00:00) Introducing Stu Brauer & how he got to where he is today
(7:06) Why Stu de-affiliated & started a new concept
(13:16) How to run a profitable gym in a smaller footprint
(16:09) Learning how to make sales
(20:40) How to prove to the bank that you're bankable
(23:47) Explaining Stu's high op cap model
(30:57) Sponsored message: Run a successful gym with Kilo (visit https://usekilo.com/)
(32:51) How Stu bought his building
(36:17) Why small biz owners are valuable to investors
(37:51) Planning out your space before buying the building
(40:45) Shifting your mindset from gym owner to real estate investor
(44:08) Common struggles with leasing
(48:28) How to not make costly mistakes with leasing
(52:52) Other tips to consider when buying or leasing
(59:18) Different ways to buy a building
(1:04:09) How do you know when you're ready to buy a building?
(1:07:04) How should gym owners think about content?
(1:16:49) Where to go if you want to find Stu

Sep 8, 2023 • 1h 10min
This simple gym business is scaling to 150 locations
John Franklin (https://twitter.com/JohnIsBuilding), Mateo Lopez, and Mark Fisher (@markfisherhumanbeing ) sat down with Rick Mayo
(https://www.rickmayo.com/), the CEO of Alloy Personal Training, to talk about simple business model that more gym owners are using to scale multiple successful locations.
P.S. If you like the show, then you'll love the Gym World newsletter. Every Friday, John Franklin breaks down the possibilities of making money in the fitness industry. Subscribe here (https://usekilo.com/gym-world/) so you don't miss out.
Show notes:
(00:00) Introducing Rick Mayo and why Mark loves the model
(5:24) What is Alloy?
(8:17) How many employees are needed at a location?
(9:27) Why the language you use matters
(12:15) What does the programming look like?
(18:53) The importance of how you position services
(27:00) Sponsor message: Run a successful gym with Kilo (visit https://usekilo.com/)
(30:23) Running the only small group personal training franchise
(36:16) The economics of a good location
(37:27) Finding the perfect location
(39:52) Discussing Alloy's marketing strategy
(48:59) What Mark looked for to find the right location
(54:20) Rick discusses pricing anchors
(57:43) The importance of brand design
(1:06:22) Who makes an ideal franchisor?
(1:09:07) Where to go to find Rick and Alloy

Sep 1, 2023 • 52min
How she makes $500k/yr from online training
Melissa Shevchenko, an online fitness coach with a $500k/yr business, discusses how she grew her business without a big following. Topics include getting clients on social media, packaging and pricing services, using Facebook for lead conversion, retaining clients, and long-term program goals.

Aug 25, 2023 • 59min
How CrossFit Affiliates can earn $10k/mo without coaching every class
Andrew Charlesworth, Midwest Affiliate Representative from CrossFit, discusses financial strategies for CrossFit affiliates, the impact of passion on programming, and the importance of consistent quality in a fitness affiliate. They also explore the best CrossFit gyms in the world and financial challenges faced by affiliates.

Aug 18, 2023 • 58min
The process that made 43 millionaire gym owners
Chris Cooper, CEO of the largest gym mentorship companies in the world, discusses how data can help coaching gyms make better business decisions. Topics include industry best practices, the importance of youth programs, the State of the Industry Survey, pricing group training, debunking CrossFit member myths, and the data on being a gym owner.

Aug 11, 2023 • 58min
Gym owner makes $1.9M from a shared space
John Franklin (https://twitter.com/JohnIsBuilding), Mateo Lopez, and Mark Fisher (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpI_I0QUkOsTOVi-HYS-y1g) sat down with James Pratt from Pratt Personal Training (https://www.instagram.com/prattpersonaltraining/) to talk about how his small group training facility is on track to make $1.9M from a shared space.
P.S. If you like our show, then you'll love the Gym World newsletter. Every Friday, John Franklin breaks down the possibilities of making money in the fitness industry. Subscribe here (https://blog.johnisbuilding.com/subsc...) so you don't miss out!
Show notes:
(2:20) What is Pratt Personal Training?
(5:16) How James got started with personal training
(9:01) How sharing a space with another facility works
(12:32) How much does the gym rent cost?
(15:18) Growing the business organically and lessons learned
(21:57) Why believing in yourself and having confidence as a coach matters
(28:21) Discussing CrossFit affiliates and approaches to business
(33:54) What was James's hiring process?
(39:29) What James would have done differently in his business
(48:44) A common mistake gym owners make
(54:12) James's advice to gym owners

Aug 4, 2023 • 52min
How to hire the best people for your gym
John Franklin (https://twitter.com/JohnIsBuilding) & Mateo Lopez chat with fitness recruiter, Jessie Stackhouse (https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessie-stackhouse/) from Just Fitness Staffing (http://www.justfitnessstaffing.com/), about what gym owners can do to improve their hiring process and attract ideal candidates.
P.S. If you like our show, then you'll love the Gym World newsletter. Every Friday, John Franklin breaks down the possibilities of making money in the fitness industry. Subscribe here (https://blog.johnisbuilding.com/subsc...) so you don't miss out!
Show notes:
(1:19) Tips to improve your job description & posting
(6:20) Why gym owners should consider working with recruiters
(9:06) How and where to find quality candidates
(11:18) Crafting an outreach message to potential candidates
(12:58) Outbound vs. inbound candidates
(13:59) How many candidates should you interview?
(16:06) Red and green flags to look out for when screening candidates
(21:03) The best platforms for sourcing talent
(23:26) Advice for recruiting at in-person events
(27:57) The most difficult position to fill in fitness
(31:49) The importance of keeping a talent pipeline open
(36:44) How to position your gym to be a place where people want to work
(40:36) How to improve your gym's website to attract talent
(44:59) Finding high-caliber candidates and filling roles efficiently
(51:15) Where to contact Jessie

Jul 28, 2023 • 1h 3min
Building FOUR 7-figure gyms
John Franklin (https://twitter.com/JohnIsBuilding) & Mateo Lopez chat with fitness entrepreneur, Matt Wilber (https://mattwilberofficial.com/), about how he scaled to 10 locations, including four that bring in over $1M each.
Show notes:
(1:42) Introducing Matt Wilber & his start in the gym business
(10:21) Opening his first location and hiring his first coach
(12:42) Scaling to four locations using challenges
(15:22) The cost of opening multi-location
(16:43) Packaging & pricing bootcamp classes
(18:23) What Matt did to stand out from other gyms
(25:54) Hiring key players to your business
(34:24) Who is coaching the coaches?
(39:30) Scaling to 10 locations at the worst time possible
(46:00) Transitioning from a large to small group training model
(50:36) Packaging, pricing, and marketing a new model
(55:15) Matt's internal upselling process
(56:43) The challenges of switching business models
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