
Champions of Growth Podcast
The Champions of Growth Podcast explores the various aspects of the ANA Growth Agenda with the goal of assisting CMOs and brand managers to create a stronger, more sustainable economic future for their companies and the audiences they serve.
Hosted by Matthew Schwartz, senior manager of editorial and content development at the ANA, the podcast focuses on the ANA 12-point Growth Agenda — ranging from Brand Innovation to Diversity, Equity and Inclusion — and features in-depth discussion with marketing industry leaders from both the brand and agency sides of the business.
Latest episodes

Jul 7, 2022 • 27min
How Do Marketers Get a Better Grip on Martech?
In our latest episode of ANA Champions of Growth, host Matthew Schwartz talks with Jason Cerok, partner at McKinsey & Co., about how CMOs and marketers can get a better handle on martech. As their tech stack grows, marketers often suffer from “analysis paralysis” and have trouble connecting all the digital dots. Cherok shares five key building blocks for data martech enablement and talks about how marketers can bring a lot more stability to what can often be an unwieldy situation.

Jun 10, 2022 • 36min
How Do Marketers Express Digital Empathy?
In our latest episode of ANA Champions of Growth, host Matthew Schwartz speaks with Brian Solis, VP-global innovation evangelist at Salesforce, about digital empathy, or how brands connect with the person behind the data. Taking a human approach to distributing branded content — and being less in thrall to the algorithm — is fine. But digital empathy is more an opportunity for marketers to reset their priorities when it comes to how they communicate with their audiences and reach new ones. Solis discusses what’s behind digital empathy, how marketers learn how to express it, and why artificial intelligence (AI) is not the cure-all for messaging in a post-digital age.

May 16, 2022 • 23min
How Marketers Bolster Their Brand Safety Efforts
In our latest episode of ANA Champions of Growth, host Matthew Schwartz talks with Mary Engle, executive vice president of policy at BBB National Programs, about how CMOs can enhance their brand safety efforts. As the metaverse ascends, brands and organizations will have to make some tough decisions about how to engage consumers virtually while at the same time maintain their brand integrity in what is largely an unregulated environment. The metaverse adds to a dizzyingly complex landscape for CMOs when it comes to brand safety and making sure their advertising doesn’t end up adjacent to vituperative content online or misleading information.

May 2, 2022 • 27min
How Marketers Sharpen Their Account-Based Marketing Efforts
In our latest episode of ANA Champions of Growth, host Matthew Schwartz talks with Danny Nail, director of global ABM and Center of Excellence Leader at Salesforce, and Gemma Davies, head of global ABM and executive engagement at ServiceNow, about how CMOs sharpen their account-based marketing (ABM) strategies.

Apr 19, 2022 • 32min
Champions of Growth Podcast – How Brands Enhance Their Sustainability Efforts
This year’s Earth Day (April 22) coincides with the release of a bone-chilling UN Report about climate change and the fate of the environment. In our latest episode of ANA Champions of Growth, host Matthew Schwartz talks with Virginie Helias, chief sustainability officer at Procter & Gamble, about how companies can bolster their sustainability efforts, institute real change, and bring their environmental story to life.

Apr 11, 2022 • 28min
Champions of Growth Podcast - How Marketers Turn the Page on Content Marketing
In this episode of Champions of Growth, Mathew Sweezey, director of market strategy at Salesforce, and partner in the Salesforce futures lab, joins host Matthew Schwartz to discuss how CMOs can bolster their content marketing strategy and where every company is a media company, like it or not.

Mar 22, 2022 • 29min
Champions of Growth Podcast - How CMOs Can Play More of a Leadership Role
In our latest episode of ANA Champions of Growth, host Matthew Schwartz talks with Matthew Lieberman, CMO of PwC U.S. and Mexico, about how CMOs can reverse the decline in CMO tenure, learn to become businesspeople first and marketers second, and take on more of a leadership role throughout the enterprise.

Mar 10, 2022 • 29min
Champions of Growth Podcast - Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion in the Marketing Industry
Advancing Diversity, Equity and Inclusion (DEI) is one of the toughest challenges facing the marketing and advertising industries. It’s also an ample opportunity for brands and organizations to shed antiquated thinking and shift their mindset when it comes to how they engage multiple stakeholders, ranging from employees to suppliers to partners. In our latest episode of ANA Champions of Growth, host Matthew Schwartz talks with Natasha Miller Williams, head of diversity and inclusion at food company Ferrara, and Bill Duggan, group executive VP at the ANA, about how CMOs and brand managers create a strategic framework for DEI and develop a keener sense of belonging throughout the enterprise.

Feb 16, 2022 • 26min
Champions of Growth Podcast - What is a Brands for Humans Marketing Strategy?
B2B. B2C. It’s getting harder to delineate between the two disciplines. Do marketers need a new nomenclature (and change of thinking) when it comes to how to engage with their audiences? In our latest episode, host Matthew Schwartz talks with Dean Aragon, CEO & Vice-Chairman of Shell Brands International AG, about how CMOs can start to build a brands-for-humans strategy and why doing so could spell bigger marketing budgets.

Jan 19, 2022 • 32min
Champions of Growth Podcast - Humor In Marketing and Advertising
We all could use a laugh nowadays...right?!
In our latest episode, host Matthew Schwartz talks to Jenna Lebel, CMO at Liberty Mutual Insurance, and Steve Cody, founder of PR and marketing agency Peppercomm (and a stand-up comedian) talk about using comedy in marketing and advertising and why finding the funny can be serious business.