

Trapital
Dan Runcie
Trapital is where technology meets culture. Hear breakdowns on the most important trends in tech, media, and entertainment. Trapital founder Dan Runcie and various guests break down the moves that shape the rest of society. Learn more
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Aug 7, 2025 • 18min
Have Record Labels Turned Into Private Equity Firms?
The podcast dives into how major record labels are transitioning into private equity-like firms, focusing on acquiring legendary music back catalogs instead of signing new artists. It explores the financial shifts driven by streaming royalties, which elevate the value of proven hits. The discussion unveils changes in artist deals, a reduction in risk-taking by labels, and the rise of global investors seeking ownership in music assets. This transformation in the industry hints at a new future for both artists and record companies.

Jul 30, 2025 • 18min
The Business Behind Iconic Music Catalogs
In this solo episode, we dive into the most valuable music catalogs in the world, and what makes them stand out. From Queen and Michael Jackson’s deals and more, we explore why the top catalogs fetch massive multiples and how they operate at unique financial and cultural assets.
03:19 Iconic Catalogs
07:07 Music Biopics
08:32 How Genres Imoact Catalog Value
13:07 Future of Music Rights
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Jul 23, 2025 • 40min
Revisiting The Sphere (Rewind)
In this episode, we’re revisiting our deep dive on James Dolan’s Sphere in Las Vegas. The Backstreet Boys residency at the Sphere. As we predicted on our 2025 Live Music Draft, the boy band’s apperance at the Vgas spectacle would exceed expectations. So I talk about that before I jump into the episode.
Then I’m joined by MIDiA Research’s Tati Cirisano for our deep dive on the mult-billion dollar vision and future of The Sphere.
04:05 Sphere’s Backstory
10:33 Business Model
19:21 Financial Hurdles
28:40 Expansion Plans
33:11 Future Prospects
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This episode is presented by State Farm, the home for your small business needs. Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there.
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Jul 15, 2025 • 26min
Algorithms vs. Curators: YouTube’s Role in Breaking Through The Noise
Tuma Basa is the Director of Black Music and Culture at YouTube, previously shaping music at MTV and Spotify. He shares insights on YouTube's evolution and its pivotal role in music promotion. The conversation dives into how artists can harness YouTube's diverse format to engage audiences effectively. Tuma discusses the trend of global music, highlighting the rise of Amapiano and its cultural connections. He also explores the shift in music curation from traditional media to digital platforms, emphasizing a more inclusive landscape.

Jul 10, 2025 • 3min
Trapital Summit: Sep 10 in LA. A few announcements...
Exciting news unfolds as a major summit approaches, gathering leaders from music, entertainment, and tech. Notable speakers include Elliot Grainge and Steve Pamon, sharing insights on industry innovations. The event promises valuable networking opportunities and highlights early bird ticket pricing. Sponsors like the Raine Group and Warner Music Group are lending their support, ensuring a stellar lineup. Don't miss this chance to connect with the vanguards shaping the future!

Jul 3, 2025 • 19min
Record Labels Want Market Share, But At What Cost?
Dive into the competitive world of record labels and the fierce battle for market share. Discover how significant financial decisions are influenced by this metric, raising questions about the value of heavy spending. Unpack the complex dynamics of executive compensation tied to market position and the challenges faced by both major and independent labels. Explore the pressing issues of artist success amidst these pressures, and ponder the impact of stagnant streaming revenues on the future of the music industry.

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Jun 23, 2025 • 39min
How Will Taylor Swift’s Masters Ownership Saga Be Remembered?
Tati Cirisano, a music industry expert and analyst, joins to discuss Taylor Swift’s music rights saga and its broader implications. They explore the financial impacts on key players like Scooter Braun and Swift herself. The conversation delves into the increasing trend of artists reclaiming ownership of their works and the evolving dynamics of fan loyalty in shaping these narratives. They ponder how history will remember Swift's fight for her masters and what it means for future artists navigating similar challenges.

Jun 12, 2025 • 33min
Why Artist Development Matters More Than Ever
Lonny Olinick, CEO of AWAL and a visionary in the music distribution landscape, discusses why artist development is more crucial than ever. He elaborates on how AWAL blends traditional label services with a focus on artist ownership, providing creative freedom and global reach. The conversation dives into Sony Music's acquisition of AWAL, revealing how it enhances career opportunities for artists without compromising their authenticity. Lonny also shares insights on navigating artist agreements, emphasizing support and patience in cultivating talent.

Jun 5, 2025 • 31min
Does Hip-Hop Still Run Luxury Fashion?
Sowmya Krishnamurthy, author of Fashion Killa, dives into the vibrant interplay between hip-hop and luxury fashion. She reveals how hip-hop has shifted from underground roots to mainstream dominance, influencing trends and collaborations. The duo discusses the role of nostalgia in celebrity culture and the need for authentic partnerships. They also examine the future landscape of fashion in 2025, spotlighting key figures like Kendrick Lamar and ASAP Rocky, and stress the importance of nurturing emerging talent in the industry.

May 29, 2025 • 32min
America Streams American. The World Follows.
Will Page, former chief economist at Spotify and author of 'Pivot', dives into the global impact of American music. He discusses the surprising dominance of U.S. artists amid a trend toward local sounds. The conversation touches on how American music continues to grow, the rise of hip-hop and country genres, and the shifting power dynamics in the streaming market. Page also highlights the new consumer empowerment in music consumption and shares insights about his creative projects, including his DJ mixes.