
Ops Cast
Ops Cast, by MarketingOps.com, is a podcast for Marketing Operations Pros by Marketing Ops Pros. Hosted by Michael Hartmann, Mike Rizzo & Naomi Liu
Latest episodes

Feb 3, 2025 • 49min
How to build a Marketing Ops career on a budget with Jannelle Roscoe
Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show!Curious about how a fitness instructor transitions into a marketing ops powerhouse? Join us for a fascinating conversation with Jannelle Roscoe, the Associate Director of Digital Marketing and Marketing Systems at Lonza. Jannelle shares her unique journey from the world of fitness to mastering marketing operations, all while sticking to a budget. Her experience highlights the importance of customer-centric thinking, not only when engaging with external clients but also within internal teams. Her insights into customer journeys and motivations are must-hear lessons for anyone navigating the complex realm of marketing operations.In our discussion, you'll discover the power of continuous learning and humility in professional growth. Jannelle opens up about embracing new challenges and overcoming the fear of not knowing everything, striking a perfect balance between confidence and humility. We explore the importance of creating nurturing environments where newcomers can freely ask questions, seek guidance, and grow without unnecessary struggles. This approach not only fosters personal growth but also strengthens the marketing operations community by encouraging collaboration and shared experiences.Episode Brought to You By MO Pros The #1 Community for Marketing Operations ProfessionalsSupport the show

Jan 30, 2025 • 40min
The Future of Martech: How AI is Revolutionizing Marketing Operations with Luke Crickmore
In this discussion, Luke Crickmore, a Marketing Technology Practice Lead at AlgoMarketing and an AI and MarTech expert, shares how AI is transforming marketing operations. He unpacks the automation of mundane tasks, allowing marketers to focus on creativity and personalization. Luke delves into AI’s role in generating insightful hypotheses for campaigns, enhancing content creation while safeguarding brand identity. He also emphasizes the need for human oversight in AI training, balancing automation with essential human intuition for effective marketing strategies.

Jan 27, 2025 • 48min
Where are all of the B2C Marketing Ops Pros? with Cory Huff
Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show!Explore the journey from stage acting to marketing operations with Cory Huff, Marketing Operations Manager at Discogs, as he shares insights on storytelling, personalization, and emotional intelligence in marketing. The episode highlights collaboration and the nuances between B2C and B2B marketing environments.• Investigation of storytelling as a powerful marketing tool • Discussion on personalizing marketing messages • Examination of the transition from B2C to B2B marketing • Insights on data challenges within marketing operations • Importance of team collaboration in marketing execution • Role of emotional intelligence for marketers • Strategies for implementing change within organizationsLink to the book Team Habits: How Small Actions Lead to Extraordinary Results hereEpisode Brought to You By MO Pros The #1 Community for Marketing Operations ProfessionalsSupport the show

Jan 23, 2025 • 48min
The Evolved Marketer: The Emerging Breed of Marketing Ops Professionals with Yomi Tejumola
Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show!What if AI could redefine the very essence of creativity and fulfillment in marketing? That's exactly what Yomi Tejumola, the visionary founder and CEO of Algo Marketing, explores with us. Imagine a world where marketers aren't bogged down by routine tasks but are instead empowered to tap into unprecedented levels of inventiveness and strategic thinking. With Yomi’s insights, we discuss the rise of the "evolved marketer"—those who harness AI not just for productivity but as a catalyst for personal and professional growth.Picture your brain as a network of highways and dirt roads, where AI serves as the tool to pave new paths and break free from mental ruts. Together, we unpack how automation can free us from mundane processes, allowing marketers to focus on discovering innovative strategies and channels. This shift in mindset opens doors to expanded neuroplasticity and creativity, ultimately reshaping our approach to marketing and beyond. It's about harnessing technology to not just change how we work, but how we think.In the realm of team dynamics, we venture into the nuanced world of productivity and stress measurement with AI solutions. Yomi and I reflect on the initial hesitance teams may face when integrating new tools and the potential for AI to alleviate stress through predictive action recommendations. By streamlining tasks and aligning individual efforts with team goals, AI can transform workforce strategies into cohesive and effective operations. As we conclude, Yomi and I express our gratitude to our listeners, inviting you to contribute your thoughts and ideas for future episodes. Let’s continue pushing the boundaries of innovation together.Episode Brought to You By MO Pros The #1 Community for Marketing Operations ProfessionalsSupport the show

Jan 20, 2025 • 53min
Blurring the Lines: Exploring B2B and B2C Marketing Operations with Beth Horrigan
Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show!This episode dives into the dynamic realms of B2C and B2B marketing operations, highlighting their interconnectedness and the emotional versus rational appeals that differentiate them. Beth Horrigan shares her extensive career journey, emphasizing the importance of curiosity and collaboration across marketing sectors. • Discussion around pivotal career moments in marketing • Exploration of B2C emotional marketing vs. B2B rational marketing • Insights on campaign management and cross-team collaboration • Importance of technology and AI in marketing operations • Commonalities from the 2024 State of the MoPro report • Advocating for curiosity and knowledge-sharing across sectors Link to Adam Grant's podcast episode can be found here.Episode Brought to You By MO Pros The #1 Community for Marketing Operations ProfessionalsSupport the show

Jan 15, 2025 • 54min
From Twinkle, Twinkle to MOps and Mimosas: 4 Years of OpsCast Moments
Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show!Ever wondered how a podcast can thrive amidst chaos and unexpected interruptions? From fire alarms to lullabies, our journey with OpsCast over these past four years has been anything but ordinary. Born amidst the uncertainty of the COVID-19 pandemic, our podcast grew from a live talk radio concept to a platform for raw and unfiltered marketing operations discourse. We've shared laughs, learned from mishaps, and embraced the charm of unscripted moments, all while exploring the evolving intersection of marketing and technology. As we reminisce about our beginnings and the quirky anecdotes that have shaped our identity, we extend gratitude to our listeners and guests who have been part of this wild ride.Join us as we celebrate milestone episodes like "WTF is Marketing Operations" with Amy Goldfine and explore the profound impact our content has had on listeners’ careers. The heartfelt stories of transformations and professional growth fuel our passion, even when analytics remain elusive. Encouraging personal and professional goal-setting, we look forward to new challenges and fresh insights in the year ahead. We also delve into the shifting trends in education, particularly the surprising decline in computer science applications, and how AI perceptions may be reshaping career paths in tech.The future of OpsCast promises exciting shifts as we aim to bring more B2C perspectives into our discussions, delve into personal narratives, and forge deeper community connections. Inspired by personal stories like those shared by Kyle Lacey, we're eager to explore the human side of professional journeys and offer spaces for shared interests beyond work. With an eye on both professional development and personal growth, we invite you to share your experiences, feedback, and ideas as we continue to evolve and expand our content. Here's to another year of unscripted moments, valuable insights, and meaningful conversations!Link to Building Effective Agents can be found here Episode Brought to You By MO Pros The #1 Community for Marketing Operations ProfessionalsSupport the show

Jan 13, 2025 • 55min
Analytics Should not be a Million Dollar Problem with Janet Gehrmann
Join Janet Gehrmann, co-founder of Scoop Analytics and expert in marketing analytics for SMBs, as she unpacks the world of business intelligence. She shares how SMBs can leverage affordable analytics tools to improve decision-making. Janet discusses the importance of context in data, the complexities of marketing attribution, and the impact of AI on business strategies. She also emphasizes the value of storytelling in data communication and how lessons from parenting can enrich business leadership. A must-listen for anyone looking to understand data better!

Jan 5, 2025 • 48min
How to Create a Culture of Experimentation with Brendan Burke
Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show!Unlock the secrets of a thriving startup culture with insights from Brendan Burke, Senior Marketing and Growth Manager at Baydin (Boomerang). Ever wondered how a company can successfully run 52 experiments in a year? Brendan reveals how Boomerang, a bootstrapped company since 2010, champions data-driven decisions and adaptability, creating an environment where ideas are tested quickly and inefficient ones are discarded without hesitation. His intriguing journey from politics to tech underscores the unexpected paths our careers can take, offering lessons in flexibility and growth.Explore the art of managing experimentation in product development as we dissect Boomerang's 2024 initiative using a modified RICE framework. With guidance from Boomerang's CEO, we shine a light on the meticulous process of refining a long list of potential experiments into actionable strategies, focusing on reach, impact, effort, and reversibility. Discover the power of minimizing bias through structured frameworks and how iterative testing can enhance user engagement, all while keeping the experiment list fresh with new ideas and insights.Finally, we dive into the world of marketing operations, discussing the critical role of specific metrics and the challenges of replicating results across different platforms like Gmail and Outlook. Learn about the surprising effectiveness of quick tests on seemingly minor details, and how unconventional strategies, like intentional misspellings in ads, can capture attention. We also highlight the importance of fostering a culture of experimentation that enhances collaboration, especially in remote work settings, where communication and team relationships thrive through continuous learning and adaptation.Episode Brought to You By MO Pros The #1 Community for Marketing Operations ProfessionalsSupport the show

Dec 29, 2024 • 51min
Data Driven Marketing Needs Humanity Too with Leanne Dow-Weimer
Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show!What happens when you blend the worlds of exercise physiology and marketing? Our latest episode features Leanne Dow-Weimer, a fractional marketing leader, who shares her unique journey from gym floors to executive offices. Leanne's story offers a fresh perspective on how personal training parallels marketing—it’s all about understanding and motivating people. You'll learn how aligning marketing strategies with seasonal trends and focusing on sustainable, evidence-based approaches can lead to lasting success, avoiding the pitfalls of quick fixes. But that's just the beginning. We also tackle the often tricky balance between maintaining a profitable business and pursuing altruistic goals. Using insights from John Mackey's path with Whole Foods, we explore how understanding finance is crucial for social impact and growth. Leanne and I dive into the importance of financial literacy and effective communication in gaining stakeholder buy-in. We share strategies to discern which business ideas hold water, emphasizing the need to blend operational and financial insights for overall success.Finally, we unpack the essence of brand identity and the power of data-informed decision-making. With examples like Southwest Airlines, we highlight how a brand's core values permeate every aspect of the business, influencing everything from hiring decisions to customer service. We stress the importance of data literacy, advocating for meaningful storytelling with data rather than relying on raw numbers. This episode is a must-listen for anyone eager to understand the intersection of data, humanity, and marketing.Episode Brought to You By MO Pros The #1 Community for Marketing Operations ProfessionalsSupport the show

Dec 17, 2024 • 51min
The Mindset for the Most Effective Rev Ops Teams with Sean Lane and Laura Adint
Join Sean Lane, a founding partner at Beacon GTM and co-author of 'The Revenue Operations Manual', alongside Laura Adint, operations expert and former VP at Drift. They dive into the essence of Revenue Operations, clarifying the synergy between marketing, sales, and customer success. Discover the value of collaboration in writing their extensive guide, practical insights on enhancing team clarity, and the evolving landscape of operations. They also touch on the mindset shift needed for professionals to drive real impact in their roles.