
Product Thinking
Successful product management isn’t just about training the product managers who work side by side with developers everyday to build better products. It’s about taking a step back, approaching the systems within organizations as a whole, and leveling up product leadership to improve these systems. This is the Product Thinking Podcast, where Melissa Perri will connect with industry leading experts in the product management space, AND answer your most pressing questions about everything product. Join us each week to level up your skillset and invest in yourself as a product leader.
Latest episodes

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Aug 28, 2024 • 48min
Episode 186: Optimizing Enterprise Product Development Processes with Christopher Li
In this engaging conversation, Christopher Li, SVP of Product at Xactly with 15 years of experience, discusses navigating the complexities of enterprise product development. He highlights the significance of organizational support in successful product management. Christopher also dives into the value of user researchers and the balance of long-term innovation with immediate customer needs. His insights on evolving roles in product management and strategies for integrating AI into processes provide a fresh perspective on driving innovation and collaboration.

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Aug 21, 2024 • 44min
Episode 185: Moving to a Product Model and Embracing Digital Transformation with Melissa Douros
Melissa Douros, Chief Product Officer at Green Dot, shares her journey from aspiring teacher to fintech leader. She discusses the innovative banking-as-a-service model and how Green Dot's reusable architecture streamlines integrations. The conversation highlights the balance between efficiency and creativity in product management. Douros also emphasizes effective communication as key to successful customer experiences in finance, and the growing importance of Chief Product Officers in the industry, differentiating their role from CTOs and CIOs.

Aug 14, 2024 • 43min
Episode 184: Building Products for Product Managers with Trisha Price
Trisha Price, Chief Product Officer at Pendo, discusses the evolving landscape of product management with Melissa Perri. They dive into the importance of blending qualitative and quantitative insights to better meet customer needs. Trisha highlights new tools like Session Replay and Pendo Listen, which prioritize user feedback and enhance productivity. They also address the critical roles of product operations and marketing in navigating the automation era while emphasizing the irreplaceable human touch in strategy and customer engagement.

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Aug 7, 2024 • 49min
Episode 183: Building a Team Culture of Ownership and Collaboration with Todd Wilkens
Todd Wilkens, Chief Product Officer at Qualio, shares his rich journey from design to product development. He emphasizes the power of collaboration and breaking down silos in organizations. The conversation dives into how UX designers can seamlessly transition into product management roles, leveraging their skills to enhance user experience. Todd highlights the importance of cultivating a culture centered on shared goals and teamwork, especially as companies scale, to ensure effective communication and drive growth.

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Jul 31, 2024 • 44min
Episode 182: Balancing Stakeholder Needs in Educational Products with Amir Kabbara
In this discussion, Amir Kabbara, a product leader with a rich background at Microsoft, Amazon, and Shopify, shares insights from his journey toward balancing diverse stakeholder needs in educational technology. He emphasizes the importance of aligning student, teacher, parent, and administrator perspectives with a guiding 'North Star.' Amir also discusses the role of customer conversations and data-driven decision-making in product development. Additionally, he explores the integration of AI in education and the need for ethical considerations and quality standards.

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Jul 24, 2024 • 43min
Episode 181: Exploring the Unknown: The Decision Sprint Framework with Atif Rafiq
Atif Rafiq, CEO at Ritual and author of Decision Sprint, discusses problem-solving, decision-making systems, and cultural change. He emphasizes the importance of building explorations for innovation, aligning workflow with stakeholder meetings, and involving leaders in decision-making. Insights on balancing long-term missions with short-term objectives and the future of technology in problem-solving.

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Jul 17, 2024 • 48min
Episode 180: Aligning Product Goals with Business Outcomes: Insights from Sean O'Neill of Syncron
Sean O'Neill, Chief Product & Technology Officer at Syncron, shares insights in aligning product goals with business outcomes. Topics include value creation moments, financial aspects, experimental mindset, impact measurement, and build versus buy decisions.

Jul 10, 2024 • 43min
Episode 179: Achieving Trust and Authenticity in Product Reviews: G2's Approach with Sara Rossio
Sara Rossio, Chief Product Officer at G2, discusses G2's success with AI, trust building in reviews, and capitalizing on market shifts. She emphasizes the importance of validation and celebrating progress to avoid burnout. They prioritize career development, AI for personalization, and staying informed on tech trends.

Jul 3, 2024 • 45min
Episode 178: Startups or Enterprise: Advice from a CPO with Ying Chen
Ying Chen, Chief Product Officer at Quantive, discusses the benefits of working in both startups and enterprises, highlighting the learning opportunities they offer. She emphasizes the importance of communication in enterprises and wearing multiple hats in startups. Chen also shares advice on advancing a career in product management, focusing on understanding the business side and continuously evolving in the field.

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Jun 26, 2024 • 1h 5min
Episode 177: The Evolution of User Research: A Conversation with Steve Portigal, Author of Interviewing Users
Author Steve Portigal discusses the evolution of user research from in-person to remote methods. They touch on the challenges and advantages of remote interviews, such as geographical diversity and context understanding. They also highlight the role of active listening and common mistakes in user interviews.