
Product Thinking
Successful product management isn’t just about training the product managers who work side by side with developers everyday to build better products. It’s about taking a step back, approaching the systems within organizations as a whole, and leveling up product leadership to improve these systems. This is the Product Thinking Podcast, where Melissa Perri will connect with industry leading experts in the product management space, AND answer your most pressing questions about everything product. Join us each week to level up your skillset and invest in yourself as a product leader.
Latest episodes

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Nov 6, 2024 • 45min
Episode 196: The Affirm Card: Transforming Payment Flexibility with Vishal Kapoor
Vishal Kapoor, SVP of Product at Affirm, shares insights from over 15 years in product management. He discusses Affirm's innovative fintech strategies, emphasizing customer-centric design and the importance of real-time feedback. Vishal reveals how their iterative culture drives product development and enhances the new Affirm card. He also highlights the significance of cross-functional partnerships, especially with compliance teams, for navigating regulatory challenges. Tune in for practical advice on agile product strategies and fostering customer engagement.

Oct 30, 2024 • 50min
Episode 195: Sparking Joy in the Workplace with Robin Daniels
In this enlightening chat, Robin Daniels, Chief Business and Product Officer at Zensai and former leader at Salesforce and LinkedIn, shares his journey through product management. He discusses transforming workplace culture by fostering community and joy among teams. Robin critiques outdated performance reviews, advocating for weekly check-ins that promote self-reflection. He highlights the importance of reducing friction in customer journeys, especially in product-led growth, and calls for modern leadership to understand the nexus of product, sales, and marketing.

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Oct 23, 2024 • 54min
Episode 194: From Product Leader to CEO with Mercedes Chatfield-Taylor
Mercedes Chatfield-Taylor, Co-founder and CEO of Artico Search, specializes in executive leadership for growing companies. In this conversation, she discusses the shift from a 'growth at all costs' mindset to a focus on profitability and sustainability. Mercedes highlights essential pathways for product leaders transitioning to CEOs, emphasizing the importance of product empathy and cross-functional collaboration. She shares insights on cultivating strong connections with sales and operations, crucial for effective leadership in today's business landscape.

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Oct 16, 2024 • 44min
Episode 193: Navigating Hyper-Growth with Sean Solme Kim, Former Head of Product at TikTok and Amazon Prime
In this engaging discussion, Sean Solme Kim, a seasoned product leader with notable tenures at TikTok and Amazon, shares his journey and insights on product development. He dives into the impact of understanding customer behavior on retention strategies, highlighting his success at Amazon Prime. Switching gears to TikTok, Sean reveals how he empowered product managers and fostered innovation through clear vision and metrics. The fascinating evolution of TikTok's Stitch feature showcases the balance between user-driven design and rapid growth in product management.

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Oct 9, 2024 • 49min
Episode 192: Brian Fugere’s Blueprint for Merging Teams and Technologies
Brian Fugere, Chief Product Officer at Symplr, shares his rich expertise in healthcare technology. He discusses how to balance customer demands with strategic decision-making amid regulatory challenges. Brian highlights the importance of simplifying enterprise products and fostering a collaborative culture within teams. He dives into the complexities of mergers and acquisitions, emphasizing team integration and maintaining morale to drive innovation. Listeners will gain actionable insights for enhancing product strategy and navigating the evolving healthcare landscape.

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Oct 2, 2024 • 43min
Episode 191: The Evolution of Customer Experience: Insights from Blake Morgan
Blake Morgan, a seasoned expert in customer experience and best-selling author with a rich background at companies like Coca-Cola, discusses the evolution of customer experience. She highlights core principles from her book, offering strategies for integrating customer feedback and fostering a culture where everyone owns the customer experience. Blake emphasizes the need for leadership to adapt, especially with AI in customer service, and points out the transformative impact of brands like T-Mobile that embrace a customer-centric approach.

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Sep 25, 2024 • 41min
Episode 190: Mastering Product Focus: Balancing Legacy and Innovation with Shruti Patel
In this discussion, Shruti Patel, an Executive Vice President and CPO at U.S. Bank, shares her extensive experience in product management within financial services. She contrasts traditional banking with fintech, emphasizing the challenges banks face due to legacy systems. Shruti discusses the importance of customer-driven product development and innovative strategies for user experience. She also highlights the role of AI in the evolving FinTech landscape, balancing efficiency with the need for integrated solutions for small businesses.

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Sep 18, 2024 • 47min
Episode 189: Prioritizing Platform Products with Vijay Pitchumani of Okta
Vijay Pitchumani, Director of Product at Okta and a leading voice in product strategy, shares invaluable insights on product management for platform teams. He discusses the importance of defining actionable success metrics to guide engineering teams. Vijay also highlights the role of experimentation, advocating for API-first approaches to gather user feedback early on. They explore the complexities of aligning product roadmaps with business goals and emphasize the need for a curious mindset to innovate while ensuring security in identity platforms.

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Sep 11, 2024 • 46min
Episode 188: How AI is Redefining Enterprise Productivity with Tamar Yehoshua of Glean
Tamar Yehoshua, President of Product and Technology at Glean, shares her extensive experience from leading teams at Google and Slack. She discusses how AI is revolutionizing enterprise productivity and search functionalities. Tamar delves into the challenges of scaling AI-driven products in startups and underscores the importance of security and user adoption. She emphasizes the necessity of customer feedback in refining AI solutions and the evolving role of product managers in leveraging AI for enhanced effectiveness in fast-paced markets.

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Sep 4, 2024 • 39min
Episode 187: From Paper Stocks to Private Capital: Vrushali Paunikar's Journey at Carta
Vrushali Paunikar, Chief Product Officer at Carta, shares her extensive experience in product management. She discusses how Carta transformed finance practices with a customized general ledger and innovative equity compensation strategies. The conversation dives into balancing depth and breadth in product development, the evolution of roles in fintech, and the importance of ongoing learning in navigating complex domains. Vrushali also emphasizes hiring innovators with curiosity to foster a culture of collaboration and drive meaningful change.