
CHURN FM
CHURN FM is the podcast for subscription economy pros. Every Wednesday we hear how the world’s fastest growing companies are tackling churn and using retention & engagement to fuel their growth.
Latest episodes

Oct 16, 2024 • 46min
E267 | How to Shift Seemingly Uncontrollable Churn into Retention-Driven Growth with Adam Fishman
Today on the show, we have Adam Fishman, interim SVP of New Products at Mozilla and a growth advisor to various startups.In this episode, Adam dives into the concept of controllable vs. seemingly uncontrollable churn, sharing strategies he used at Patreon and Imperfect Foods to effectively manage churn.He explains how to identify what appears to be out of your control and the tactics that can tame it, turning seemingly uncontrollable churn into manageable factors. From improving customer onboarding to managing expectations, Adam reveals how focusing on the right areas can significantly impact retention and drive growth.Mentioned ResourcesStartup Dad PodcastMozillaImperfect FoodsFishman AF NewsletterReforgeChurn FM is sponsored by Vitally, the all-in-one Customer Success Platform.

Oct 12, 2024 • 38min
E266 | From Concert Halls to Boardrooms: Turning Seemingly Unrelated Skills into Customer Success Strengths with Marija Skobe-Pilley
Today on the show, we have Marija Skobe-Pilley, Co-Founder and Director of Fractional SaaS and host of the Women in Customer Success podcast.In this episode, Marija shares her incredible journey from a professional musician to a leader in customer success. We explore how she turned seemingly unrelated skills from her music career into strengths in customer success, applying talents like discipline, project management, and audience engagement to build strong client relationships and drive business growth.We also discuss the challenges of making major career transitions, how to recognize transferable skills, and how Marija positioned herself for leadership roles in customer success. Finally, we dive into the rise of portfolio careers and how Marija is embracing this model to balance consulting, coaching, and personal projects.Mentioned ResourcesFractional SaaSNVIDIAWomen in Success PodcastCatalystClickUpChurn FM is sponsored by Vitally, the all-in-one Customer Success Platform.

Oct 2, 2024 • 46min
E265 | How Rows' Ungated, Product-as-the-Homepage Experience Tripled User Signups and Redefined Activation with Henrique Cruz
Today on the show, we have Henrique Cruz, Head of Growth at Rows.In this episode, Henrique shares how Rows radically transformed its user acquisition and activation strategy by making the product the homepage. He breaks down the bold decision to remove traditional barriers like signups, creating an ungated, no-account-required experience that tripled user signups—from 8% to 27%.We then explore the impact this change had on their key metrics, the power of onboarding through real-time product use, and how this approach has redefined activation and retention for Rows.Mentioned ResourcesRowsVeniamTalkdeskNotionSlackDigital OceanChurn FM is sponsored by Vitally, the all-in-one Customer Success Platform.

Sep 25, 2024 • 47min
E264 | Sales-Led vs. Product-Led: The Key Differences Tackling Churn with eWebinar's CEO Melissa Kwan
Today on the show, we have Melissa Kwan, CEO and Co-Founder of eWebinar.In this episode, Melissa shares her experience building and scaling eWebinar, a product-led company, and contrasts it with her previous sales-led ventures.We dive into the key differences between sales-led and product-led growth models, specifically how each approach tackles churn and retention.Melissa also opens up about the challenges of bootstrapping a SaaS company, the role of automation in scaling, and how focusing on lifestyle has shaped her business decisions.Mentioned ResourceseWebinar SpacioHomeSpotterHotjar StripeChartMogulLeah TharinUserpilot Emeric Ernoult Agorapulse Churn FM is sponsored by Vitally, the all-in-one Customer Success Platform.

Sep 20, 2024 • 43min
E263 | From Optimizely to Limitless: Dan Siroker on Building Products That Wow
Today on the show we have Dan Siroker, CEO and Co-Founder of Limitless.In this episode, Dan shares his journey from founding Optimizely, growing it to $120 million in ARR, to now leading Limitless, a company focused on building products that enhance memory.We discussed the challenges of transitioning from B2B to B2C, including how AI is reshaping consumer retention and the importance of product focus and execution.Finally, we wrapped up by diving into Dan’s philosophy on building products that truly "wow" and how startups can achieve that through ruthless prioritization and attention to detail.Mentioned Resourceslimitless.aiOptimizelyChurn FM is sponsored by Vitally, the all-in-one Customer Success Platform.

Sep 11, 2024 • 36min
E262 | How Data-Driven Automation Transforms Customer Success with Joe Di Grande
Today on the show, we have Joe Di Grande, the founder of Joe Does Tech Touch, a consulting firm specializing in customer success automation.In this episode, Joe discusses the transformative power of data-driven automation in customer success. He shares how companies can leverage data to segment customers, automate renewals, and scale personalized engagement—without needing large teams.Joe also explains how automating critical processes like renewals and pricing adjustments can directly impact Net Revenue Retention (NRR) and customer satisfaction.We then wrapped up by diving into the importance of organizing customer data and implementing the right tools to ensure scalable success for both SMB and enterprise clients.Mentioned ResourcesJoe Does Tech Touch VitallyBusiness InsiderSalesloft Outreach eMarketerStripeLoomChurnZeroClayVidyardAir AINetflixChurn FM is sponsored by Vitally, the all-in-one Customer Success Platform.

Sep 4, 2024 • 50min
E261 | From Zero to Success: How to Build Customer Success Teams from Scratch with Ben Francis
Today on the show we have Ben Francis, the Director of Customer Success at Evident.In this episode, Ben shares his experience in building and scaling customer success teams from scratch. He offers actionable insights on refining onboarding processes, consolidating essential customer data, and employing strategic hiring practices to foster team growth and enhance customer loyalty.We then discussed the significance of specialization within customer success teams as they scale, with Ben introducing the concept of time inventory exercises to optimize team efficiency and quantify the value of new investments. We wrapped up by exploring strategies for fostering a positive team culture through continuous learning and proactive communication.Recommended ResourcesEvident Salesmsg Intellum CrossFit Chili Piper Hotjar Zendesk Churn FM is sponsored by Vitally, the all-in-one Customer Success Platform.

Aug 29, 2024 • 48min
E260 | The PLG vs. SLG Debate: Surprising Insights from SaaS Benchmarks with Emilia Korczynska of User Pilot
Today on the show we have Emilia Korczynska, the VP of Marketing at Userpilot.In this episode, Emilia shares her insights into the ongoing debate between Product-Led Growth (PLG) and Sales-Led Growth (SLG) strategies in SaaS companies.Emilia shared surprising findings from Userpilot’s latest SaaS product metrics benchmark report, which challenge common assumptions about PLG effectiveness.We wrapped up by exploring how these insights are influencing Userpilot's product positioning and strategy moving forward, along with the importance of understanding customer needs through both qualitative and quantitative data.Mentioned ResourcesUserpilot Wisemont Language Services Jason Lemkin DHL Nir Eyal HookedContentsquareHeapPendoAmplitudeSprigPostHogJames Hawkins AWS HotjarChurn FM is sponsored by Vitally, the all-in-one Customer Success Platform.

Aug 21, 2024 • 43min
E259 | Identifying Your Ideal Customer Profile: A Data-Driven Approach with Goodfit's CEO Harrison Rose
Today on the show we have Harrison Rose, CEO and Co-founder of GoodFit.In this episode, Harrison shares his journey from founding Paddle, a revenue delivery platform for B2B SaaS, to starting GoodFit, a company that helps businesses identify the right customers at the right time with the right message.We dive deep into the importance of identifying your Ideal Customer Profile (ICP) and how data-driven approaches can refine this process. Harrison discusses the key factors to consider when defining your ICP, how to leverage data to prioritize the best-fit customers, and the impact of these strategies on churn and retention.Mentioned ResourcesGoodFit PaddleGartner ChatGPTBuiltWithAlipayRahul Vohra ShowCodeDavid Darmanin HotjarSegmentDrift Bose Churn FM is sponsored by Vitally, the all-in-one Customer Success Platform.

Aug 14, 2024 • 40min
E258 | Transforming Customer Success into a Growth Function with Entrust's Chief Customer Officer Harini Gokul
Today on the show we have Harini Gokul, the Chief Customer Officer of Entrust.In this episode, Harini shares her experience in transforming Entrust’s customer success function into a powerful growth engine. We dive into the strategies she used to align customer success with P&L goals, ensuring the team’s contribution to revenue growth.Harini also discusses the critical role of data-driven accountability in driving customer retention and how Entrust is leveraging AI to enhance customer experience at scale.Mentioned ResourcesEntrustAWSGitLabHotjarChurn FM is sponsored by Vitally, the all-in-one Customer Success Platform.
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