
CHURN FM
CHURN FM is the podcast for subscription economy pros. Every Wednesday we hear how the world’s fastest growing companies are tackling churn and using retention & engagement to fuel their growth.
Latest episodes

Sep 11, 2024 • 36min
E262 | How Data-Driven Automation Transforms Customer Success with Joe Di Grande
Today on the show, we have Joe Di Grande, the founder of Joe Does Tech Touch, a consulting firm specializing in customer success automation.In this episode, Joe discusses the transformative power of data-driven automation in customer success. He shares how companies can leverage data to segment customers, automate renewals, and scale personalized engagement—without needing large teams.Joe also explains how automating critical processes like renewals and pricing adjustments can directly impact Net Revenue Retention (NRR) and customer satisfaction.We then wrapped up by diving into the importance of organizing customer data and implementing the right tools to ensure scalable success for both SMB and enterprise clients.Mentioned ResourcesJoe Does Tech Touch VitallyBusiness InsiderSalesloft Outreach eMarketerStripeLoomChurnZeroClayVidyardAir AINetflixChurn FM is sponsored by Vitally, the all-in-one Customer Success Platform.

Sep 4, 2024 • 50min
E261 | From Zero to Success: How to Build Customer Success Teams from Scratch with Ben Francis
Today on the show we have Ben Francis, the Director of Customer Success at Evident.In this episode, Ben shares his experience in building and scaling customer success teams from scratch. He offers actionable insights on refining onboarding processes, consolidating essential customer data, and employing strategic hiring practices to foster team growth and enhance customer loyalty.We then discussed the significance of specialization within customer success teams as they scale, with Ben introducing the concept of time inventory exercises to optimize team efficiency and quantify the value of new investments. We wrapped up by exploring strategies for fostering a positive team culture through continuous learning and proactive communication.Recommended ResourcesEvident Salesmsg Intellum CrossFit Chili Piper Hotjar Zendesk Churn FM is sponsored by Vitally, the all-in-one Customer Success Platform.

Aug 29, 2024 • 48min
E260 | The PLG vs. SLG Debate: Surprising Insights from SaaS Benchmarks with Emilia Korczynska of User Pilot
Today on the show we have Emilia Korczynska, the VP of Marketing at Userpilot.In this episode, Emilia shares her insights into the ongoing debate between Product-Led Growth (PLG) and Sales-Led Growth (SLG) strategies in SaaS companies.Emilia shared surprising findings from Userpilot’s latest SaaS product metrics benchmark report, which challenge common assumptions about PLG effectiveness.We wrapped up by exploring how these insights are influencing Userpilot's product positioning and strategy moving forward, along with the importance of understanding customer needs through both qualitative and quantitative data.Mentioned ResourcesUserpilot Wisemont Language Services Jason Lemkin DHL Nir Eyal HookedContentsquareHeapPendoAmplitudeSprigPostHogJames Hawkins AWS HotjarChurn FM is sponsored by Vitally, the all-in-one Customer Success Platform.

Aug 21, 2024 • 43min
E259 | Identifying Your Ideal Customer Profile: A Data-Driven Approach with Goodfit's CEO Harrison Rose
Today on the show we have Harrison Rose, CEO and Co-founder of GoodFit.In this episode, Harrison shares his journey from founding Paddle, a revenue delivery platform for B2B SaaS, to starting GoodFit, a company that helps businesses identify the right customers at the right time with the right message.We dive deep into the importance of identifying your Ideal Customer Profile (ICP) and how data-driven approaches can refine this process. Harrison discusses the key factors to consider when defining your ICP, how to leverage data to prioritize the best-fit customers, and the impact of these strategies on churn and retention.Mentioned ResourcesGoodFit PaddleGartner ChatGPTBuiltWithAlipayRahul Vohra ShowCodeDavid Darmanin HotjarSegmentDrift Bose Churn FM is sponsored by Vitally, the all-in-one Customer Success Platform.

Aug 14, 2024 • 40min
E258 | Transforming Customer Success into a Growth Function with Entrust's Chief Customer Officer Harini Gokul
Today on the show we have Harini Gokul, the Chief Customer Officer of Entrust.In this episode, Harini shares her experience in transforming Entrust’s customer success function into a powerful growth engine. We dive into the strategies she used to align customer success with P&L goals, ensuring the team’s contribution to revenue growth.Harini also discusses the critical role of data-driven accountability in driving customer retention and how Entrust is leveraging AI to enhance customer experience at scale.Mentioned ResourcesEntrustAWSGitLabHotjarChurn FM is sponsored by Vitally, the all-in-one Customer Success Platform.

Aug 7, 2024 • 45min
E257 | How to Build a Customer Success Team Leveraging Subject Matter Experts with Szuyin Leow
Today on the show we have Szuyin Leow, the VP of Customer Experience at Transcend.In this episode, Szuyin shares her experience transitioning from IT security consulting to customer success, and how leveraging subject matter experts has transformed her approach to building effective CS teams.We then discuss the strategies and benefits of hiring industry experts to enhance customer experience, and the practical steps Szuyin took to implement these practices at LogicGate and Transcend.Mentioned ResourcesTranscendPavilion Sales Assembly LogicGate PwC Notion Gong UserGems Bose Churn FM is sponsored by Vitally, the all-in-one Customer Success Platform.

Jul 31, 2024 • 44min
E256 | Community-Driven Development: Boosting Retention with Integrations with Biro Florin
Today on the show we have Biro Florin, a misfit, angel investor, exited founder, and show host of Misfit Founders.In this episode, Biro shares his experience in building successful integrations within the Atlassian marketplace.We then discussed how community-driven development can significantly enhance user retention and engagement.We wrapped up by exploring the balance between acquisition and retention, and the lessons learned from Jexo’s journey in the SaaS ecosystem.Mentioned ResourcesMisfit Founders SaaStockJira SlackAtlassian EcosystemMisfit Episode ReferencedChurn FM is sponsored by Vitally, the all-in-one Customer Success Platform.

Jul 24, 2024 • 42min
E255 | Navigating Growth and Retention: Lessons from PostHog’s CEO, James Hawkins
Today on the show we have James Hawkins, CEO and co-founder of PostHog.In this episode, James shares his experience navigating growth and retention at PostHog. He discusses his journey from working in outbound sales to leading a product-led growth startup and the importance of an inbound-focused approach.We delve into how PostHog defined and focused on their ideal customer profile (ICP) of engineers, which not only shaped their product development and marketing strategies but also influenced their unique team structure, where every team member can code.We wrapped up with James talking about the transition from self-hosted to cloud services and their strategic shift to usage-based pricing.Mentioned ResourcesPostHog Arachnys Jira GitHub Hacker News KubernetesAWSCloudflareZendeskChurn FM is sponsored by Vitally, the all-in-one Customer Success Platform.

Jul 17, 2024 • 39min
E254 | Reactivation Tactics: Transforming Cancellations into Customer Retention Opportunities with Baird Hall
Today on the show we have Baird Hall, the co-founder of Churnkey.In this episode, Baird shares his experience in developing effective reactivation campaigns and the importance of segmentation in retention strategies.We then discussed how small changes in retention tactics can have a monumental impact on high-volume subscription businesses, and the role of dynamic, personalized cancellation flows.We wrapped up by exploring Churnkey's evolution from a tool-based approach to a comprehensive retention platform, and the future of AI-driven churn prediction.Mentioned ResourcesChurnkeyHotjarChurn FM is sponsored by Vitally, the all-in-one Customer Success Platform.

Jul 10, 2024 • 33min
E253 | Optimising Positioning, Messaging, and Buyer Enablement to Drive Customer Success with Jason Oakley
Today on the show we have Jason Oakley, the founder of Productive PMM and former Director of Product Marketing at Klue and Chili Piper.In this episode, Jason shares his experience in building product marketing from the ground up, focusing on the critical areas of positioning, messaging, and buyer enablement.We discussed how these elements play a crucial role in driving customer success and improving retention, along with practical strategies for implementation.We wrapped up by discussing the role of product marketing in working with sales, customer success, and product teams to ensure a seamless customer experience from onboarding to retention.Mentioned ResourcesProductive PMMUserEvidenceChili PiperChurn FM is sponsored by Vitally, the all-in-one Customer Success Platform.