Second in Command: The Chief Behind the Chief with Cameron Herold

In today's episode of the Second in Command podcast, Cameron is joined by Ron Martinez, COO and co-founder of Chatavise, and of course, a COO Alliance member. Ron discusses the pivotal role of operational strategies in scaling businesses from millions to billions. He emphasizes that while marketing is a key component, operational intricacies are essential for managing rapid growth. Ron's journey with Chatavise, a comprehensive text messaging and SMS platform, showcases his strategic approach to client relationships and reputation management through innovative communication solutions.Cameron and Ron discuss leveraging texting for business growth. Ron illustrates how Chatavise excels in managing the entire customer journey, offering services beyond a conventional texting platform. He shares insights on common pitfalls in SMS marketing and emphasizes the importance of aligning text communication with a company's overall tone and marketing strategies.The discussion sheds light on the unique challenges and learning experiences in developing Chatavise. Ron discusses the importance of understanding customer needs and adapting services accordingly, particularly in different industry segments. He also shares his personal growth journey and the significance of being a member of the COO Alliance, highlighting the value of learning from peers and experiences to drive business success.Enjoy!In This Episode You'll Learn:How operational strategies are pivotal when scaling a business from millions to billions, beyond just focusing on marketing.How Chatavise revolutionizes customer interactions and reputation management through its advanced SMS and text messaging platform.Effective SMS marketing strategies and how to avoid common pitfalls, ensuring your messages align with your brand's tone and overall marketing plan.The importance and benefits of integrating texting into your business model, and how it can be more effective than traditional email marketing.How Chatavise adapts its services to suit different industry needs, emphasizing the importance of understanding and meeting customer requirements.Ron's journey of personal growth and how his experiences have shaped his professional success as COO of Chatavise.The significance of learning from peers, and how it can contribute to one’s business strategies and leadership skills.Innovative ways to enhance customer engagement and build stronger relationships using technology.Strategies for navigating the challenges that come with transitioning from a startup to a scale-up.And much more...Resources:Subscribe, Rate & ReviewI'd love you to subscribe to the podcast and leave an honest rating & review. This will encourage others to listen and grow as a community.Connect with Ron: Website | LinkedInYouTube - Second In Command Podcast - https://www.youtube.com/@secondincommandpodcast YouTube - Cameron Herold Leadership - https://www.youtube.com/@CameronHerold COO Alliance - https://cooalliance.com/ Cameron’s newest book - The Second In Command - https://a.co/d/287lESq Cameron’s Online Leadership Course - https://investinyourleaders.com/ch  Cameron’s Website - https://cameronherold.com/ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/cameron_herold_cooalliance/ 

Today's episode of the Second in Command podcast is a recast of a conversation between Cameron and Joe Polish, the host of the Genius Network podcast, Cameron discusses the intricacies of the COO role and the dynamics of a CEO-COO relationship. Drawing from his rich experience as a COO, he offers insights into effective leadership, company culture, and the importance of understanding the unique requirements of this executive position.Joe and Cameron discuss his book "Second in Command," which emphasizes the significance of the COO role in a business. Cameron shares his journey as an entrepreneur and a COO, highlighting the key aspects of his role in various companies. The discussion then shifts to the CEO-COO dynamic, where Cameron stresses the importance of alignment and communication between the two, comparing it to a marital relationship. He underscores the need for trust, mutual understanding, and regular interaction to maintain a healthy and productive partnership.Cameron offers practical advice on hiring and working with a COO. He emphasizes the importance of cultural fit and alignment with company values, alongside skills and experience. He also touches upon the challenges that come with growth and scaling, discussing how roles evolve and sometimes necessitate difficult decisions, such as parting ways with long-term team members. Cameron also shares his personal experiences and learnings, offering valuable lessons for entrepreneurs looking to strengthen their leadership teams.Enjoy!In This Episode You'll Learn:How the role of a COO evolves as a company grows, and the significance of this position in various stages of business development.The nuances of the relationship between a CEO and a COO, and why it's often compared to a marital partnership. The impact of strong leadership and a well-defined company culture on the success of a business.The critical aspects of hiring a COO, including the importance of cultural fit and aligning with company values.How to navigate the challenges that come with scaling a business, as well as making tough decisions about team dynamics.Strategies for managing the highs and lows that come with entrepreneurship, including advice on maintaining personal well-being while running a business.And much more...Resources:Subscribe, Rate & ReviewI'd love you to subscribe to the podcast and leave an honest rating & review. This will encourage others to listen and grow as a community.YouTube - Second In Command Podcast - https://www.youtube.com/@secondincommandpodcast YouTube - Cameron Herold Leadership - https://www.youtube.com/@CameronHerold COO Alliance - https://cooalliance.com/ Cameron’s newest book - The Second In Command - https://a.co/d/287lESq Cameron’s Online Leadership Course - https://investinyourleaders.com/ch  Cameron’s Website - https://cameronherold.com/ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/cameron_herold_cooalliance/ 

In today's episode of the Second in Command podcast, Cameron is joined by Artug Acar, COO Alliance member as well as COO of Mercury Business Services, a Boston-based tech-enabled healthcare and logistics company. Artug shares Mercury's focus on healthcare logistics, emphasizing their specialized services in shipping medical devices, diagnostic kits, and life science research products. He highlights the company's strategic shift from law firms to healthcare, leveraging their expertise in a niche market to provide valuable services. Artug's journey from VP of Product to COO reflects his deep involvement in various company aspects, from product development to operations, underscoring his comprehensive approach to leadership.Cameron and Artug discuss the challenges and strategies of managing a global team, with a significant presence in Turkey. He stresses the importance of cultural understanding, autonomy, and team integration for effective cross-border collaboration. Artug's unique position, bridging Turkish and American cultures, enables him to create a cohesive and efficient work environment, despite geographical and time differences. This global team plays a crucial role in Mercury's operations, and Artug's approach showcases his ability to navigate complex international dynamics successfully.Artug also shares insights on change management and leadership styles. He emphasizes the need to adapt leadership approaches based on situational demands, ranging from coercive to coaching styles. Artug's analogy of sailing in Boston Harbor parallels his leadership philosophy, illustrating the importance of adapting to changing environments while maintaining a clear course. His reflective approach, seeking feedback and learning from mistakes, marks his growth-oriented mindset.Enjoy!In This Episode You'll Learn:How Mercury transitioned from servicing law firms to focusing on healthcare logistics, and why targeting niche markets can be a strategic advantage.Insights into managing a multicultural team across different geographies, with a specific focus on integrating teams in the U.S. and Turkey.Artug's approach to change management and how adapting leadership styles to various situations can drive organizational success.The challenges and triumphs of developing a technology platform that supports global healthcare logistics.Artug's career progression at Mercury, the diversification of responsibilities, and the holistic understanding required in a COO role.Strategies for fostering effective collaboration between teams from different cultural backgrounds and time zones.How to adapt your leadership style during a crisis and the importance of being flexible yet directive when needed.How engaging employees in decision-making and recognizing their contributions can fuel growth and morale in an organization.Strategic planning and how anticipating future risks and opportunities can prepare a business for sustainable growth.And much more...Resources:Connect with Artug: Website | LinkedInSubscribe, Rate & ReviewI'd love you to subscribe to the podcast and leave an honest rating & review. This will encourage others to listen and grow as a community.YouTube - Second In Command Podcast - https://www.youtube.com/@secondincommandpodcast YouTube - Cameron Herold Leadership - https://www.youtube.com/@CameronHerold COO Alliance - https://cooalliance.com/ Cameron’s newest book - The Second In Command - https://a.co/d/287lESq Cameron’s Online Leadership Course - https://investinyourleaders.com/ch  Cameron’s Website - https://cameronherold.com/ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/cameron_herold_cooalliance/ 

Today's episode of the Second in Command podcast is a recast of a conversation between Cameron and Christopher Lochhead, the host of the Legends and Losers podcast. They discuss the distinct roles and personalities within corporate leadership, particularly focusing on the dynamic between CEOs and COOs. Cameron highlights the results of a personality profiling exercise conducted within the COO Alliance, revealing stark differences between the entrepreneurial, visionary nature of CEOs and the more operational, linear approach of COOs. He emphasizes the unique abilities of COOs to reverse-engineer the dreams of CEOs, underscoring their role in bringing structure and execution to the visionary ideas of their counterparts.The discussion further explores the identity of COOs, emphasizing their role as facilitators rather than aspirants to the CEO position. Cameron and Christopher agree that a successful COO is one who genuinely aims to amplify the CEO's vision, rather than using the position as a stepping stone to the top role. This concept is expanded upon through real-world examples, including a nod to Sheryl Sandberg's role at Facebook, suggesting that the best COOs are those who understand and stay true to their specialized role, much like a player in a well-coordinated team.They also reflect on the various types of executive roles and the challenges in filling these positions, particularly in the tech industry. Cameron introduces his COO Alliance as a solution to the lack of networking and learning opportunities for second-in-command executives. They share their personal experiences and observations, as well as the importance of complementary skill sets within leadership teams.Enjoy!In This Episode You'll Learn:How CEOs tend to be entrepreneurial and visionary, while COOs are more operational and linear.The concept that COOs are professionals in their own right, with a unique skill set, rather than merely waiting to become CEOs.How successful leadership teams balance contrasting skills and personalities.The importance of understanding one's role and staying true to it for effective teamwork.The difficulties companies face in filling key executive roles, especially in the tech industry.The often misunderstood and undertrained nature of the COO role.And much more...Resources:Subscribe, Rate & ReviewI'd love you to subscribe to the podcast and leave an honest rating & review. This will encourage others to listen and grow as a community.YouTube - Second In Command Podcast - https://www.youtube.com/@secondincommandpodcast YouTube - Cameron Herold Leadership - https://www.youtube.com/@CameronHerold COO Alliance - https://cooalliance.com/ Cameron’s newest book - The Second In Command - https://a.co/d/287lESq Cameron’s Online Leadership Course - https://investinyourleaders.com/ch  Cameron’s Website - https://cameronherold.com/ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/cameron_herold_cooalliance/ 

In today's episode of the Second in Command podcast, Cameron Herold is joined by Stacey Ryan, the COO of the School of Rock, to discuss the revolutionary impact of the business and her experiences as a woman in a C-suite role. Stacey shares the transformational journey of School of Rock, from having 16 corporate locations to expanding to 353 schools across 15 countries. They discuss the unique teaching approach of the business, which focuses on teaching music by integrating students into bands and putting them on stage, offering not just musical education but also social development and community building.Stacey shares the intricacies of managing a franchise model and the nuances of international business operations, highlighting the importance of adapting to local cultures and regulations. She talks about the success of their master franchise strategy and shares valuable lessons learned in maintaining a balance between authority and partnership in franchising. Her insights reveal the complex dynamics of franchising and the need for constant reevaluation and adaptation to ensure growth and success in diverse markets.Cameron and Stacey discuss the challenges and advancements of women in executive roles. Stacey talks candidly about the slow but positive changes in the representation of women in C-suite positions and the biases they often face. She shares her personal experiences and initiatives like "Front Women" that aim to support and empower women in leadership roles. Their conversation not only sheds light on innovative educational models and franchise management but also crucial issues of gender equality and leadership diversity in the corporate world.Enjoy!In This Episode You'll Learn:How School of Rock has expanded from 16 to 353 locations globally, transforming music education by teaching through performance.The challenges and strategies of managing a franchise model, including balancing authority and partnership.The slow but positive shift in the inclusion of women in C-suite roles, including the hurdles they face and the progress made.How School of Rock positively impacts students' mental health by providing a safe, inclusive environment where they can express themselves through music.The value of staying true to oneself in a leadership role and the importance of making decisions aligned with personal values and integrity.How personal authenticity in leadership can lead to more meaningful and successful career paths.The challenges women face in corporate environments, from being underestimated to dealing with microaggressions.And much more...Resources:Connect with Stacey: Website | LinkedIn Subscribe, Rate & ReviewI'd love you to subscribe to the podcast and leave an honest rating & review. This will encourage others to listen and grow as a community.YouTube - Second In Command Podcast - https://www.youtube.com/@secondincommandpodcast YouTube - Cameron Herold Leadership - https://www.youtube.com/@CameronHerold COO Alliance - https://cooalliance.com/ Cameron’s newest book - The Second In Command - https://a.co/d/287lESq Cameron’s Online Leadership Course - https://investinyourleaders.com/ch  Cameron’s Website - https://cameronherold.com/ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/cameron_herold_cooalliance/ 

The podcast delves into creating a 'Vivid Vision' for businesses and individuals, emphasizing the power of detailed future envisioning. They discuss the SAVERS routine for daily success, the secret formula for entrepreneurial success, and the importance of efficient systems and processes. The speaker shares insights on balancing personal peace with business responsibilities and building a successful business model through perseverance and adaptability.

In today's episode of the Second in Command podcast, Cameron Herold is joined by Amaryllis Kennedy, writer, television host, public speaker, former CIA officer, and campaign manager to Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s 2024 presidential campaign. Amaryllis and Cameron discuss the intricate world of political campaigning. Amaryllis shares her unique journey from a CIA officer to a tech entrepreneur in Silicon Valley, and eventually to the helm of a major political campaign. She illuminates her transition from witnessing government shortcomings to actively participating in shaping a better political future. Her experiences in government service and the tech industry have equipped her with an unconventional skill set, making her an effective disruptor in the traditional political campaign sphere.Amaryllis discusses the campaign's approach, emphasizing authenticity, grass-roots engagement, and leveraging digital tools to democratize the fundraising process. The campaign has innovatively gamified fundraising and volunteer activities, encouraging widespread grassroots involvement. She highlights the importance of direct voter engagement, detailing how the campaign facilitates open and unscripted conversations with Bobby Kennedy Jr., thereby fostering genuine connections with the electorate. This strategy contrasts sharply with the conventional, often opaque approaches of traditional political campaigns.Cameron and Amaryllis also touch on the campaign's strategic vision, focusing on offering positive solutions rather than engaging in adversary-focused politics. Amaryllis explains the critical role of listening to diverse voices across the country and incorporating their needs and aspirations into the campaign's policy framework. She shares insights into managing the multifaceted aspects of the campaign, balancing strategic planning with the dynamic nature of political campaigning.Enjoy!In This Episode You'll Learn:Amaryllis' journey from CIA officer to a tech entrepreneur, leading to her role as the campaign manager for RFK Jr.'s presidential campaign.The significance of authenticity in political engagement, and how it contrasts with traditional political strategies.How the RFK Jr. campaign employs digital tools and gamification techniques in fundraising and volunteer activities, democratizing campaign processes and encouraging grassroots participation.Amaryllis' leadership style and strategic decision-making processes, including balancing various demands and adapting to the dynamic nature of political campaigning.How her experiences in government and Silicon Valley have informed her approach to managing the complexities of a political campaign.Amaryllis' personal journey from disillusionment in government service to a renewed commitment to political reform.How she balances the intense demands of a presidential campaign with personal commitments, particularly as a mother.And much more...Resources:Connect with Amaryllis: Instagram | XSubscribe, Rate & ReviewI'd love you to subscribe to the podcast and leave an honest rating & review. This will encourage others to listen and grow as a community.YouTube - Second In Command Podcast - https://www.youtube.com/@secondincommandpodcast YouTube - Cameron Herold Leadership - https://www.youtube.com/@CameronHerold COO Alliance - https://cooalliance.com/ Cameron’s newest book - The Second In Command - https://a.co/d/287lESq Cameron’s Online Leadership Course - https://investinyourleaders.com/ch  Cameron’s Website - https://cameronherold.com/ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/cameron_herold_cooalliance/ 

Today's episode of the Second in Command podcast is a recast of a conversation between Cameron and Dev Gadhvi of the Passionpeneur podcast. During the conversation, they disucuss the intricacies of entrepreneurial success and business scaling. Cameron shares invaluable insights on the significance of attracting and nurturing the right talent. He emphasizes the importance of creating job postings that not only attract ideal candidates but also deter those who may not align with the company's vision. This approach was instrumental in scaling companies like 1-800-GOT-JUNK from modest beginnings to substantial revenues.Dev probes into the challenges and strategies of scaling a business. Cameron offers practical advice on managing growth at different stages, highlighting the crucial transition from 30 to 100 employees. He underscores the need for skill and confidence development among managers, stressing the importance of training in areas like situational leadership and time management. This focus on nurturing internal talent is key to sustaining and accelerating business growth.Dev and Cameron also explore the personal aspects of entrepreneurship. Cameron shares his journey, from the early days of striving for success to now living a fulfilling life, traveling and focusing on what truly matters. He talks about the shift from a money-centric to a time-centric approach, where the emphasis is on life experiences rather than material gains.Enjoy!In This Episode You'll Learn:How to craft job postings that not only attract the right talent but also repel those not aligned with your company's culture and values.Insights on scaling your business at different stages, especially the critical transition from a small team to larger groups.The pivotal role core values play in the growth and development of your company.How to handle the fear of failure and success in business, and why maintaining an optimistic outlook can be a game-changer for your entrepreneurial journey.The significance of investing in your leaders and providing them with the necessary training and resources to effectively manage and grow your business.The difference between having an entrepreneurial mindset and being an entrepreneur, and why both are important in the business world.And much more...Resources:Subscribe, Rate & ReviewI'd love you to subscribe to the podcast and leave an honest rating & review. This will encourage others to listen and grow as a community.YouTube - Second In Command Podcast - https://www.youtube.com/@secondincommandpodcast YouTube - Cameron Herold Leadership - https://www.youtube.com/@CameronHerold COO Alliance - https://cooalliance.com/ Cameron’s newest book - The Second In Command - https://a.co/d/287lESq Cameron’s Online Leadership Course - https://investinyourleaders.com/ch  Cameron’s Website - https://cameronherold.com/ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/cameron_herold_cooalliance/ 

In today's episode of the Second in Command podcast, Cameron Herold is joined by Ben Zittlau, COO, CTO and co-founder of Parakeeto, shares his journey and the philosophy behind his business approach. Ben talks about equity and long-term gains in career choices, focusing on achieving financial freedom and enjoying the fruits of one's labor. He shares his strategy of viewing businesses as systems, highlighting the significance of data in decision-making processes and the challenges of converting theoretical knowledge into practical applications.Cameron and Ben discuss the specifics of Parakeeto's operations, a company offering innovative solutions for digital agencies. Ben describes their dual model of consulting and technology, aiming to provide agencies with valuable data from their operations to enhance efficiency and profitability. He explains how their service-centric approach differs from typical SaaS models, as they use their services as a profit center to fund technological advancements. This strategy creates a virtuous cycle of profitability and efficiency.They also explore various aspects of running a tech company, such as making decisions on whether to build or buy tools, handling custom development requests, and the dynamics of co-founding a company. Ben shares insights on the challenges and advantages of being lean and agile, the importance of cash flow over theoretical equity, and the value of diversifying investments.Enjoy!In This Episode You'll Learn:Ben's approach to prioritizing long-term equity gains and financial freedom over immediate salary benefits in his career.Parakeeto's unique business model, which combines software as a service (SaaS) with consulting services to enhance digital agencies' efficiency and profitability.The complexities of translating data and theoretical knowledge into effective, practical solutions in the business world.The decision-making process behind building vs. buying technology tools, and how to handle custom development requests.The dynamics of co-founding a company, including role division, resolving disagreements, and the importance of complementary skills and values between founders.The benefits and challenges of maintaining a lean business operation, and the importance of cash flow management in a startup environment.Ben's perspective on balancing the pursuit of equity with the need for liquidity, and the risks associated with over-relying on equity in private companies.And much more...Resources:Connect with Ben: Website | LinkedInSubscribe, Rate & ReviewI'd love you to subscribe to the podcast and leave an honest rating & review. This will encourage others to listen and grow as a community.YouTube - Second In Command Podcast - https://www.youtube.com/@secondincommandpodcast YouTube - Cameron Herold Leadership - https://www.youtube.com/@CameronHerold COO Alliance - https://cooalliance.com/ Cameron’s newest book - The Second In Command - https://a.co/d/287lESq Cameron’s Online Leadership Course - https://investinyourleaders.com/ch  Cameron’s Website - https://cameronherold.com/ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/cameron_herold_cooalliance/ 

Today's episode of the Second in Command podcast is a recast of a conversation between Cameron and Roland Frasier of the Business Lunch podcast. The pair do a deep dive into the crucial role of the Chief Operating Officer for an organization. Cameron begins by emphasizing the importance of crafting a strong and polarizing job description for potential COOs. He advocates for descriptions that push away half of the candidates while strongly attracting the other half. This approach ensures that only those who are truly aligned with the company's vision and culture will apply. Additionally, Cameron suggests rewriting job postings like sales letters to further attract the right talent.The conversation shifts to discussing the key traits of successful second-in-commands. Flexibility, adaptability, and vision are highlighted as essential qualities. These traits enable COOs to lead effectively, support CEOs in their areas of expertise, and contribute to the overall forward momentum of the company. Roland and Cameron also discuss the dynamics of the CEO-COO relationship, emphasizing the need for these roles to complement each other.They touch on the challenges and strategies involved in recruiting top-level COO talent. Cameron points out that great employees are often not actively looking for a job, and hence, the approach to attracting them should be strategic and enticing. He also speaks to the emotional and professional complexities of transitioning in and out of the COO role, drawing from his own experiences. If you're looking for invaluable insights for CEOs and COOs alike, offering practical advice and strategies for strengthening leadership teams and driving organizational success, then you won't want to miss this episode.Enjoy!In This Episode You'll Learn:The importance of creating a job description that not only attracts the right candidates but also actively repels those not fit for the company's culture and vision.Essential qualities - such as flexibility, adaptability, and vision - that make an effective second-in-command, crucial for driving a company's success.The unique relationship between a CEO and a COO, and how this partnership is vital for effective leadership and organizational progress.Strategies for attracting high-caliber COO candidates, especially those who are not actively job hunting but could be the perfect fit for your organization.How to structure roles and responsibilities to ensure a significant return on investment for each employee.The importance of integrating AI and other technological tools into your business strategy to stay competitive and efficient.And much more...Resources:Subscribe, Rate & ReviewI'd love you to subscribe to the podcast and leave an honest rating & review. This will encourage others to listen and grow as a community.YouTube - Second In Command Podcast - https://www.youtube.com/@secondincommandpodcast YouTube - Cameron Herold Leadership - https://www.youtube.com/@CameronHerold COO Alliance - https://cooalliance.com/ Cameron’s newest book - The Second In Command - https://a.co/d/287lESq Cameron’s Online Leadership Course - https://investinyourleaders.com/ch  Cameron’s Website - https://cameronherold.com/ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/cameron_herold_cooalliance/