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Latest episodes

Aug 21, 2022 • 58min
The Sunday Debate: Prosecute Trump
David Blight, a Pulitzer Prize-winning historian at Yale, and Rich Lowry, editor-in-chief of National Review, engage in a fervent debate about the potential prosecution of Donald Trump for his actions on January 6, 2021. They delve into the legal complexities of political accountability, differentiating between unethical conduct and criminal behavior. The conversation highlights historical moments of decisive leadership while questioning the implications of pursuing legal action against a former president. Their discussion uncovers stark divides in public opinion surrounding these issues.

Aug 19, 2022 • 50min
Engineering for Change, with Will Butler-Adams
Will Butler-Adams, CEO of Brompton Bicycles and co-author of "The Brompton: Engineering for Change," dives into the transformative power of cycling in urban environments. He discusses the evolution of Brompton’s iconic folding bike and its role in addressing congestion and sustainability. The conversation highlights the interplay between entrepreneurship and social responsibility, the nuances of bicycle manufacturing, and the importance of creativity in engineering. Butler-Adams also emphasizes the need for inclusivity and diversity in the cycling industry.

Aug 17, 2022 • 1h 8min
Afghanistan After The Withdrawal: What Lessons Have We Learned?
Shabnam Nasimi, a UK Home Office policy advisor and founder of Conservative Friends of Afghanistan, joins veterans of Afghan reporting Jeremy Bowen from the BBC and filmmaker Paul Mason. They discuss the profound humanitarian crisis in post-withdrawal Afghanistan, highlighting the struggles of women and children amid Taliban rule. The guests analyze the impact of the chaotic withdrawal on Afghan institutions, the urgent need for international response, and the lessons learned on governance and human rights following two decades of foreign involvement.

Aug 15, 2022 • 60min
Salman Rushdie: Touchstones with Razia Iqbal
Salman Rushdie, the acclaimed author of works like 'Midnight's Children', shares his insights with BBC journalist Razia Iqbal. He reflects on cherished items like a silver ingot from his childhood and discusses the powerful influences of James Joyce and Bob Dylan on his writing. The conversation dives into the complexities of identity shaped by Indian history, the importance of open debate in today's political climate, and the evolution of contemporary fiction in response to societal changes. Rushdie's passion for literature and music shines throughout.

Aug 14, 2022 • 1h 7min
The Sunday Debate: The Bittersweet Truth About What We Eat
In this engaging discussion, guests include Sarah Jarvis, NHS GP and health author, Eran Segal, computational biologist focusing on personalized diets, Tim Spector, professor of genetic epidemiology, and Gary Taubes, acclaimed health writer. They delve into the complexities of nutrition, debunking myths about sugar and fat while promoting personalized approaches to dieting. The conversation highlights the variability in how different bodies react to food and emphasizes the crucial role of gut health in overall well-being, challenging conventional dietary guidelines.

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Aug 12, 2022 • 57min
Western Intervention and the Rise of Guerrilla Warfare, with David Kilcullen
David Kilcullen, a former soldier and counterinsurgency advisor, joins Carl Miller, Research Director at Demos, to explore the complexities of Western interventions in Iraq and Afghanistan. They delve into how guerrilla warfare has evolved, driven by technological advancements and the emergence of non-state actors. Key discussions include the risks of misunderstanding modern warfare, economic strategies as new battlegrounds, and the significance of information supremacy in conflicts. They emphasize the interconnectedness of civilians and military strategies in today's geopolitical landscape.

Aug 10, 2022 • 41min
An Honest Life, with Micheal Leviton
Micheal Leviton, a Brooklyn writer and musician known for his memoir "To Be Honest," shares his unique upbringing in a brutally honest family. He reflects on the challenges of maintaining such honesty in relationships and dating, revealing the tension between transparency and social expectations. The conversation also explores the struggles of vulnerability in group settings and the complexities of communication across cultures. With humor and insight, Leviton emphasizes the importance of self-acceptance and authenticity in forging deep connections.

Aug 8, 2022 • 1h 5min
Why I’m No Longer Talking to White People About Race, with Reni Eddo-Lodge
Reni Eddo-Lodge, a journalist and author known for her groundbreaking book on race, joins Gary Younge, a prominent columnist and academic. They dive into the renewed relevance of Eddo-Lodge's work in the wake of George Floyd's murder and the Black Lives Matter movement. The conversation touches on the emotional reaction to her book's title, the slow progress of political entities in addressing racial justice, and the role of individual activism amid global upheaval. They emphasize the importance of authentic engagement in the ongoing fight for equality.

Aug 7, 2022 • 1h 8min
The Sunday Debate: If You Believe You are a Citizen of the World, You are a Citizen of Nowhere
The discussion features David Goodhart, a demographer and author; Elif Shafak, a celebrated Turkish novelist; Simon Schama, a renowned historian; and former diplomat David Landsman. They dive into the tension between national and global identities, sparked by Theresa May's remarks on citizenship. Key topics include the complexities of belonging in a connected world, evolving views on immigration and national identity, and the impact of rising nationalism. The panel advocates for a nuanced understanding of citizenship amid today's societal challenges.

Aug 5, 2022 • 40min
Shinzo Abe's Legacy and Japan's Future, with Satona Suzuki and Jeff Kingston
In this discussion, Satona Suzuki, a modern Japanese history lecturer, and Jeff Kingston, director of Asian studies at Temple University, unpack Shinzo Abe's complex legacy. They explore Abe’s role in enhancing Japan-U.S. relations while facing challenges with South Korea. The conversation highlights the public's mixed feelings about Abe's economic policies and his historical navigation of contentious issues. They also delve into the political ramifications of Abe's assassination, shedding light on Japan's evolving political landscape and its constitutional challenges.