Grow The Show

Are interviews boosting your podcast, or could they be holding you back? The host explores the changing dynamics of guest episodes versus solo performances. Find out why solo shows often win in audio metrics while guest spots shine on YouTube. Learn how to package interviews effectively to increase views and engagement. Plus, discover key metrics that reveal your growth bottlenecks. The best strategy? A balanced mix of compelling interviews and solo content to maximize growth and sales.

Andy J. Pizza, illustrator and host of Creative Pep Talk, shares insights on how embracing your differences, like his colorblindness, can fuel creative success. He emphasizes that copying popular podcasters may stunt your growth, and instead encourages finding your unique voice. Andy discusses the importance of connecting with your audience through personal stories and how slow, meaningful growth outshines chasing virality. He argues that being someone's favorite podcast is more valuable than achieving mass acclaim.

Monetizing a podcast is less about download numbers and more about understanding your audience. Ask better questions to uncover what they want to buy. The myth of needing 10,000 downloads is debunked; sponsors pay for potential buyer engagement. A focus on direct sales to your listeners proves to be the most lucrative strategy. Discover what your audience desires by engaging with them directly, revealing valuable opportunities for monetization. Transform insights into profit by asking them what supports their needs.

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Work with Kevin: ⁠Apply to the Grow The Show Accelerator⁠ Watch the FREE ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Grow The Show Masterclass⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to learn Kevin's four steps to growing a thriving podcast business! Stuck at the same download number week after week? Most podcasters hit that wall and try all the wrong things to grow — more guests, more ads, more work. But sometimes all it takes is one small, strategic change to 5X your downloads. In this episode, Nate Palmer shares what he did to keep his listeners hooked, boost retention to 82%, and attract bigger guests and more clients. His tips will help you write stronger intros, build a backlist of clickable titles, and spend less time on production each week! Topics Discussed: Introduction (00:00) How hitting a million downloads changed Nate’s show (01:08) Why his podcast growth plateaued (02:24) Analyzing Nate’s original podcast intro (04:06) The one change that 5X’d his growth (07:39) Analyzing Nate’s new podcast intro (09:01) The intro framework behind every episode (10:12) How to introduce podcast guests (11:23) What makes a great podcast title (13:27) Tips to land podcast guest spots and build your network (18:33) Nate’s efficient process for recording intros (23:02) Intro mistakes to avoid (25:40) What makes a good episode topic (27:37) MORE FROM KEVIN: Got feedback on this episode? ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Submit it here.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Take the FREE ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠12 Days of Podcast Growth Email Course⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to get 12 days of podcast growth lessons in your inbox! Watch the FREE ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Grow The Show Masterclass⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to learn Kevin's four steps to growing a thriving podcast business! Connect with Kevin on Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Subscribe to Grow The Show on Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ This episode was produced by Podcast Boutique ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.podcastboutique.com⁠⁠

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