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Mar 12, 2024 • 47min

GTM 85: A $2.6 Billion Lesson and Embracing Ecosystem-Led Growth with Bob Moore

Learn about Ecosystem-Led Growth and leveraging partnerships for success. Find out how the SaaS industry is transitioning from defense to offense. Discover the $2.6 billion mistake and the importance of product-market fit dynamics for continuous success.
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Mar 5, 2024 • 39min

GTM 84: Outbound Isn’t Dead: This is How to Reach the Inbox with Stephen Hakami

Stephen Hakami is the Founder and CEO of Wiza - the most accurate way to find verified contact information for B2B prospects. Stephen started the company in 2019 after a sales career of being frustrated with bad data, and set out to build a prospecting tool that's powered by live LinkedIn data.Discussed in this Episode:The frustration with bad data and the inspiration behind building Wiza.The importance of email deliverability and strategies for improving it.The recent acquisition of Drift by Salesloft and the topic of consolidation in the sales tech stack.Stephen's journey from sales to CEO, highlighting the value of creative prospecting. The hardest lesson Stephen learned in sales.Effective tactics of cold email and deliverability.Highlights:(3:27) Strategies for email deliverability.(08:01) The journey from sales to entrepreneurship.(11:06) Sales technology and the consolidation.(20:41) Strategies for effective cold emails.(25:49) Understanding your competitors.(27:38) The importance of being a true consultant.(28:32) Redefining your competitors. (31:55) One thing revenue leaders believe to be true that Stephen thinks is bull$***.(34:26) One thing that is working for Stephen/Wiza in go-to-market right now.Guest Speaker Links (Stephen Hakami):LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/stephen-hakami-5babb21b0/Website: www.wiza.co/Host Speaker Links (Scott Barker):LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/ssbarker/Newsletter: thegtmnewsletter.substack.com/Sponsor:Today’s episode is sponsored by The ELG Conference, presented by Crossbeam and The ELG Alliance. The smartest companies are embracing Ecosystem-Led Growth, or ELG.Join us at the gorgeous Proper Hotel in Austin on May 15-16 and hear how the top SaaS companies are leveraging partner ecosystems in their GTM motions aka Ecosystem-Led Growth. Early-bird tickets expire next week.What you'll get at ELG Con:Case studies from companies like Datadog, Cloudera, and more.A chance to tour (and maybe even race on?) Austin's F1 track.Candid, off-the-record conversations — no recordings here.A highly curated group of 200 GTM leaders, 85% director level and above across Sales, Marketing, and Partnerships.Claim your tickets today, including a limited number of special two-for-the-price-of-one tickets.The GTM Podcast The GTM Podcast is a weekly podcast hosted by Scott Barker, GTMfund Partner, featuring interviews with the top 1% GTM executives, VCs, and founders. Conversations reveal the unshared details behind how they have grown companies, and the go-to-market strategies responsible for shaping that growth.Visit gtmnow.com for more episodes and other interesting content.
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Feb 27, 2024 • 41min

GTM 83: Redefining Marketing with AI and Personalization | Amanda Cole

Amanda Cole serves as Chief Marketing Officer, leading the execution of the company’s marketing strategy to drive further business demand and brand awareness. Amanda is a passionate marketing professional with more than 15 years of experience in helping SaaS companies build impactful brands, communicate differentiated value, and grow high-performing marketing teams. She previously served as the company’s Senior Vice President of Global Marketing, having joined in January 2021 through the acquisition of Exponea. Prior to joining Exponea, Amanda served as Vice President, Demand Generation at Blueshift, a Customer Data Platform, and before that served as Vice President of Marketing, Americas and Global Programs at Basware, a financial software company. Discussed in this Episode:The challenges of personalization in marketing and the role of AI in addressing these challenges. Insights on the future of AI in marketing and the importance of storytelling in building impactful brands.Personal journey lessons learned, emphasizing the value of mentorship and the power of vulnerability. Advice on navigating a company rebrand and challenges the belief that marketing generates pipeline. The importance of being a support function for revenue teams and the need for marketers to focus on storytelling and emotional connection.Highlights:(05:11) Challenges of personalization in marketing.(08:01) The role of AI in personalization.(10:44) Regulations and ethical considerations of AI.(16:04) The future of AI in marketing.(19:32) Lessons from personal journey.(23:09) Hiring and mentoring.(28:21) Navigating a company rebrand.(35:17) Shifting perspective on marketing's role.(40:04) Challenging the belief that marketing generates pipeline.(44:07) The power of storytelling in marketing.(34:21) One thing revenue leaders believe to be true that Amanda thinks is bull$***.(38:00) One thing that is working for Amanda in go-to-market right now.Guest Speaker Links (Amanda Cole):LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/aelam/Website: www.bloomreach.com/Host Speaker Links (Scott Barker):LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/ssbarker/Newsletter: thegtmnewsletter.substack.com/Sponsor:Today’s episode is sponsored by Flex, a finance super app built around a credit card with unique Net-60 day terms that enables businesses to make an investment today and pay it back 60 days later with zero percent interest. If your business growth is constrained by the cashflow you need for inventory, advertising, or something else, Flex could provide you with an interesting growth lever.The GTM Podcast The GTM Podcast is a weekly podcast hosted by Scott Barker, GTMfund Partner, featuring interviews with the top 1% GTM executives, VCs, and founders. Conversations reveal the unshared details behind how they have grown companies, and the go-to-market strategies responsible for shaping that growth.Visit gtmnow.com for more episodes and other interesting content.
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Feb 20, 2024 • 39min

GTM 82: Use These Sales Negotiation Tactics to Win with Richard Harris

Helping founders with GTM Strategies and teaching sales reps how to earn the right to ask questions, which questions to ask, and when is the primary driver for Richard Harris. He brings 20+ years of experience, having done all the roles - SDR, AE, Manager, Director, VP of Sales, and Director of Sales Ops - to the table. His client list includes Zoom, Salesforce, Gainsight and 80+ SaaS start-ups. He is also the Co-Founder of Surf and Sales as well as the host of the Surf and Sales Podcast. What You Will Learn:Key strategies for handling sales negotiations, including preparing for negotiations with procurement departments, and delivering pricing effectively. Perspective on the future of AI in the sales industry.Common mistakes that Richard sees founders make and how to avoid them. The importance of sales coaching and role playing. Highlights:(5:13) Unveiling Richard's book: The Seller's Journey.(10:51) The art of negotiation: engaging with procurement.(19:52) Understanding pricing and commercial terms.(21:47) The art of negotiation: offering discounts. (25:31) The future of sales in the age of AI. (31:26) Common mistakes founders make and how to avoid them.(36:44) The importance of training and role playing in sales.(34:55) One thing revenue leaders believe to be true that Richard thinks is bull$***.(36:39) One thing that is working for Richard in go-to-market right now.Guest Speaker Links (Richard Harris):LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/rharris415/Phone Number: 415-596-9149 Book: www.thesellersjourney.co/the-sellers-journey-free-previewBook (Amazon): www.amazon.com/Sellers-Journey-Guidebook-N-T-ebook/dp/B0CV32BJ5K Surf and Sales Podcast: www.surfandsales.com/the-surf-sales-podcast Host Speaker Links (Scott Barker):LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/ssbarker/Newsletter: thegtmnewsletter.substack.com/Sponsor:Today’s episode is sponsored by Wiza. If you’ve used big-name prospecting tools before, you know that they all share one, massive problem: bad data. These tools are built on static databases, playing cat-and-mouse to keep up with job titles changes, employee turnover, and bouncing emails. As sales professionals and operators ourselves, we needed more. So, we built Wiza, the only prospecting platform that sources and verifies its data in real-time, the moment it’s requested, using LinkedIn as its source of truth.Wiza offers an accuracy-obsessed B2B contact database with 99% coverage of LinkedIn profiles as well as a powerful Chrome extension that works on LinkedIn and with Sales Nav. If you’re struggling with inaccurate data from clunky database tools, try Wiza for free today at wiza.coThe GTM Podcast The GTM Podcast is a weekly podcast hosted by Scott Barker, GTMfund Partner, featuring interviews with the top 1% GTM executives, VCs, and founders. Conversations reveal the unshared details behind how they have grown companies, and the go-to-market strategies responsible for shaping that growth.Visit gtmnow.com for more episodes and other interesting content.
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Feb 13, 2024 • 35min

GTM 81: Signal-Based Sales and Entering GTM 5.0 with Alexa Grabell

Alexa Grabell is the Co-Founder and CEO of Pocus. Pocus is mission control for your pipeline. Pocus brings together product usage and other intent signals (customer, community, marketing data) to surface top leads, enabling reps to act fast. Alexa’s passion for democratizing data for go-to-market teams began when she led sales strategy & operations at Dataminr, where she built internal solutions to power sales teams with data.What You Will Learn:The evolving landscape of go-to-market strategies, including the concept of Go-to-Market 5.0.The significance of shifting from traditional 'predictable revenue engines' to data-driven, personalized, and intention-focused go-to-market strategies to enhance sales effectiveness.The critical role that data plays in tailoring sales approaches, and how certain companies have successfully implemented these strategies to achieve remarkable growth.The importance of incorporating automation and artificial intelligence in sales processes to increase efficiency and relevance in customer interactions.Strategies for fostering a strong, values-based company culture that supports innovative go-to-market strategies and empowers decision-making grounded in both data and intuition.Insightful advice on the initial hiring of salespeople, emphasizing the need for alignment with the company's culture and go-to-market vision.Highlights:(4:52) The story of how Alexa met her co-founder, Isaac, and the importance of picking the right co-founder. (6:38) The concept of go-to-market 5.0, including jobs to be done.  (12:48) Examples of companies that are doing a good job of figuring out which signals they should care about and what the playbooks are from there that they should run. (20:40) Getting to go-to-market fit and the importance of taking advice as a data point. (26:00) Demanding excellence while fostering an enjoyable experience, and Pocus' company values and expectations. (30:12) One thing revenue leaders believe to be true that Alexa thinks is bull$***.(32:12) One thing that is working for Alexa in go-to-market right now.Guest Speaker Link:LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/alexagrabell/ Blog Post: www.pocus.com/blog/building-your-signal-based-gtm-tech-stackHost Speaker Links:LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/ssbarker/Newsletter: thegtmnewsletter.substack.com/Sponsor:Today’s episode is sponsored by Wiza. If you’ve used big-name prospecting tools before, you know that they all share one, massive problem: bad data. These tools are built on static databases, playing cat-and-mouse to keep up with job titles changes, employee turnover, and bouncing emails. As sales professionals and operators ourselves, we needed more. So, we built Wiza, the only prospecting platform that sources and verifies its data in real-time, the moment it’s requested, using LinkedIn as its source of truth.Wiza offers an accuracy-obsessed B2B contact database with 99% coverThe GTM Podcast The GTM Podcast is a weekly podcast hosted by Scott Barker, GTMfund Partner, featuring interviews with the top 1% GTM executives, VCs, and founders. Conversations reveal the unshared details behind how they have grown companies, and the go-to-market strategies responsible for shaping that growth.Visit gtmnow.com for more episodes and other interesting content.
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Feb 6, 2024 • 47min

GTM 80: AI in GTM Deep Dive | Overcoming Analysis Paralysis and Tactical Use Cases with Andy Jolls

Andy Jolls, a marketing executive, discusses his journey into AI and generative AI. The podcast delves into AI's impact on go-to-market, approaches for AI implementation, tactical use cases in marketing such as SEO strategy development and analyzing data using AI tools.
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Jan 30, 2024 • 50min

GTM 79: Surviving and Thriving with Frugal, Gorilla GTM Against Giant Incumbents | Amit Pande

Amit Pande is CMO and EVP of Strategy at Aviso AI, a leading revenue intelligence platform. Previously, Amit led marketing efforts at startups like Tact AI (1st AI Assistant for Sales backed by AWS, Microsoft, and Salesforce), HP Inc (next-gen computing) and Spire AI (Human Capital SaaS). In a prior life, Amit also led product and UX teams at Yahoo and Oracle. Amit is a Stanford GSB alumnus and has served on its alumni board, and has also studied human-computer interaction and engineering at the University of Minnesota. He is a coffee loving techno-humanist, loves sci-fi and graphic novels, and lives in the San Francisco Bay Area.What You Will Learn:Challenges of entering crowded markets with large incumbents. Repositioning and reframing to differentiate from incumbents.Using events as a way to engage with customers and drive conversations.Building a successful marketing strategy with limited funding.Finding true north and surrounding oneself with inspiring ideas and people.Highlights:(13:38) Changing narrative and playing field to differentiate from incumbents.(21:12) Changing the playing field in a competitive market.(22:15) Competitive strategies against industry giants.(23:09) Strategies for hacking events to drive conversations.(27:49) Building a winning marketing strategy with a small budget.(35:57) Advice for startups entering a market with established incumbents.(43:00) One thing revenue leaders believe to be true that Amit thinks is bull$***.(45:45) One thing that is working for Amit in go-to-market right now.Guest Speaker Link:LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/amitpande/Host Speaker Links:LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/ssbarker/Newsletter: thegtmnewsletter.substack.com/Sponsor:Today’s episode is sponsored by Flex, a finance super app built around a credit card with unique Net-60 day terms that enables businesses to make an investment today and pay it back 60 days later with zero percent interest. If your business growth is constrained by the cashflow you need for inventory, advertising, or something else, Flex could provide you with an interesting growth lever.The GTM Podcast The GTM Podcast is a weekly podcast hosted by Scott Barker, GTMfund Partner, featuring interviews with the top 1% GTM executives, VCs, and founders. Conversations reveal the unshared details behind how they have grown companies, and the go-to-market strategies responsible for shaping that growth.Visit gtmnow.com for more episodes and other interesting content.
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Jan 23, 2024 • 23min

GTM 78: 2024 Predictions with GTMfund's General Partner, Max Altschuler

Max Altschuler is the Founder and General Partner of GTMfund, an early-stage fund focused on B2B SaaS startup backed by the world’s best tech GTM leaders. Previously, he was the Founder and CEO of Sales Hacker, a global digital media company that he grew and successfully sold to Outreach in 2018. He then took over as VP of Marketing for rapidly growing Outreach. In 2023, Max acquired the company he once founded, SalesHacker, bringing it under the GTMfund umbrella and rebranding it as GTMnow. Max has been published by Forbes, Inc., HBR, MIT Review, Time, Salesforce, and Nasdaq, and was named one of LinkedIn’s Top Voices for Sales and Crunchbase’s 25 Sales Leaders to Follow. He is the author of three books and multiple Wiley publications, including bestselling books Hacking Sales and Career Hacking for Millennials.What You Will Learn:A recap of GTMfund's in 2023, reflected upon by both Max and Scott. Max's 2024 predictions, from topics like remote work to the mergers and acquisitions. Identification of the major beneficiaries of the AI revolution.The changing landscape of VC and go-to-market. Highlights:(00:33) GTMfund's recent team offsite in Scottsdale.(02:18) Reflecting on GTMfund's 2023 year.(04:30) Predictions for remote work in 2024.(05:15) Impact of remote work on different roles.(07:34) The future of offshoring.(09:34) Acceleration of mergers and acquisitions.(13:02) Which two companies Max predicts will be the first to IPO. (16:15) The biggest winners of the AI revolution in 2024.(20:34) The flight to quality in Venture Capital.Guest Speaker Link:LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/maxaltschuler/Website: www.gtmfund.com/Host Speaker Links:LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/ssbarker/Newsletter: thegtmnewsletter.substack.com/Sponsor:Common Room enables you to turn any buyer activity into pipeline. It ingests all of your product usage data, intent data, social activity, community conversations, and CRM insights to automatically surface high-intent leads and timely, relevant context so your sales reps can convert more customers and hit revenue targets faster. You can try it for free today, or book a demo to go deeper at www.commonroom.io.The GTM Podcast The GTM Podcast is a weekly podcast hosted by Scott Barker, GTMfund Partner, featuring interviews with the top 1% GTM executives, VCs, and founders. Conversations reveal the unshared details behind how they have grown companies, and the go-to-market strategies responsible for shaping that growth.Visit gtmnow.com for more episodes and other interesting content.
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Jan 17, 2024 • 40min

GTM 77: Building a Top-Down Sales Strategy While Maintaining a Bottoms-Up Approach with Leena Joshi

Leena Joshi, Co-Founder & CEO of CloseFactor, shares insights on go-to-market motions, building a top-down sales strategy while maintaining a bottoms-up approach, and the importance of hiring the right salespeople. Highlights include maintaining focus on the ICP, the value of curiosity and a beginner's mindset, and using outbound motion through inbound tracking. She also discusses the convergence of sales, marketing, and customer success in the SaaS industry and the significance of product and marketing alignment.
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Jan 9, 2024 • 49min

GTM 76: 0 to $100M: You Need to Reinvent Yourself at Every Phase with Mike Molinet

Mike Molinet is the Co-Founder of Branch (branch.io), where he was COO and President, leading the company to $100M in ARR. He oversaw all things GTM there, including G&A and Product. Now, he is the Co-Founder of Thena (thena.ai), a seed-stage startup backed by Lightspeed and First Round, where they're helping companies service and engage their customers in Slack. After taking Branch to $100M, he's doing it all over again, this time with a lot of learnings.What You Will Learn:The different micro-phases within each stage of growth (0-1M ARR, 1-10M ARR, etc) and how leaders need to level up and adapt through each one.Hiring the right roles at the right time - AES vs leaders.Maintaining an open and learning mindset even with growing success.Relinquishing control as you scale while still providing oversight.Balancing product requests from large customers vs your overall roadmap.Highlights:(7:21) How your success comes from the people you hire and retain. (9:10) Evolving through micro phases through rapid growth. (15:50) Threading the needle on when to ask design partners for money in the early 0 to $1M stage. (23:11) Heuristic framework of evaluation for taking on bespoke build requests. (31:29) How hiring great people makes you feel excited to relinquish control.(43:20) One thing revenue leaders believe to be true that Mike thinks is bull$***.Guest Speaker Link:LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/mikemolinet/Website: www.thena.aiHost Speaker Links:LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/ssbarker/Newsletter: thegtmnewsletter.substack.com/Sponsor:Common Room enables you to turn any buyer activity into pipeline. It ingests all of your product usage data, intent data, social activity, community conversations, and CRM insights to automatically surface high-intent leads and timely, relevant context so your sales reps can convert more customers and hit revenue targets faster. You can try it for free today, or book a demo to go deeper at www.commonroom.io.The GTM Podcast The GTM Podcast is a weekly podcast hosted by Scott Barker, GTMfund Partner, featuring interviews with the top 1% GTM executives, VCs, and founders. Conversations reveal the unshared details behind how they have grown companies, and the go-to-market strategies responsible for shaping that growth.Visit gtmnow.com for more episodes and other interesting content.

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