Thomas Hübl and New York Times bestselling author Elise Loehnen discuss the often misunderstood realms of shadow work and collective trauma. They explore how facing our inner darkness can lead to profound personal and societal transformation, and share practical insights on integrating the messy, painful parts of ourselves for spiritual growth and global healing. Without awareness, whatever is being suppressed in the deep layers of our collective shadow will be passed on to future generations. But by implementing new rituals and architectures of healing, we can transform stagnant energy into aliveness, creativity, ethical upgrades, and stronger collaboration across cultural divides. ✨ Join Thomas for a free, live teaching event: The In-Visible Ancestral Blueprint Have you ever wondered how ancestral healing could hold a major key to healing trauma and transforming our collective future? Join Thomas and a global community to explore the personal and spiritual growth that comes from understanding our ancestral blueprints. Discover how to heal the past, move beyond hyper-individualism, and create a brighter future for generations to come. Plus, learn about Thomas’s upcoming LIVE course, The Ancestral Healing Code.  Get all the details and register for free here: 👉 https://ancestralhealingcode.com/event   ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com    ✨ Order Thomas’ new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com   Elise Loehnen is a New York Times bestselling author and the host of the podcast, Pulling the Thread, where she interviews cultural luminaries about the big questions of today. She’s the author of the New York Times bestselling On Our Best Behavior: The Seven Deadly Sins and the Price Women Pay to be Good. She has also co-written 12 books. She was the chief content officer of goop, where she co-hosted The goop Podcast and The goop Lab on Netflix, and led the brand’s content strategy and programming. She was previously the editorial projects director of Conde Nast Traveler and the editor at large and deputy editor of Lucky Magazine, where she served as the on-air spokesperson. ✨ Connect with Elise here: 👉 https://eliseloehnen.com  👉 https://eliseloehnen.substack.com    Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.  In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

Thomas guides a meditation to help you drop into your body, embrace the sensations and emotions that arise, and use your awareness to help regulate your nervous system, open your heart space, and start to feel more grounded.   ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com    ✨ Order Thomas’ new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com   Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.  In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

Thomas Hübl explores the intricate relationship between trauma, healing, and spirituality. He explains that trauma is not defined by the events we experience but by our inner responses to overwhelming situations, often leading to emotional, mental, and even societal stagnation. He discusses how we can reintegrate the frozen parts of ourselves to support growth, creativity, and deeper connections, and how healing trauma opens us to deeper love and relational awareness.  With consistent spiritual practice, connection to community, and unwavering compassion for ourselves and others, we can face difficult challenges in our lives and overcome the illusion of separation to address critical global issues.   ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com    ✨ Order Thomas’ new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com   Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.  In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

Thomas is joined by human rights leader and co-founder of #BlackLivesMatter, Ayọ Tometi, to discuss the powerful connection between activism and healing. Ayọ shares her journey to becoming an activist and her perspective on collective healing, focusing on the power of storytelling and the importance of acknowledging our collective pain. She and Thomas explore how creating spaces for deep listening and shared experiences can transform communities, and practical ways to contribute to social change while fostering personal and collective well-being. Ayọ stresses the importance of feeling in order to heal, and shares strategies for maintaining levity and compassion while working in social justice or other emotionally overwhelming fields.   ✨ Did you miss the 2024 Collective Healing Conference? Thomas recently convened a groundbreaking conference featuring conversations with 40+ luminaries and experts, including Dr. Gabor Mate, Alanis Morisette, Dr. Peter Levine, Dr. Mariel Buqué, Dr. Stephen Porges, and more. Sign up below to watch FREE highlights from the conference, or get the full conference package including healing meditations, integration practices, and speaker bonuses to help you explore new pathways to growth, healing, and profound change. Register for the free highlights here: 👉 https://collectivehealingconference.com ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com    ✨ Order Thomas’ new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com   Ayọ Tometi is an award-winning human rights champion, social entrepreneur, and a co-creator of #BlackLivesMatter, the movement nominated for a 2021 Nobel Peace Prize. In 2021 she became the first woman recipient of the International Peace Honors Award. She is widely respected for her track record and has been hailed as a new civil rights leader by those in the grassroots and major media outlets. Ayọ is a trusted advisor to several organizations and initiatives in the public and private sectors. An ardent futurist, Ayọ has committed her life to joyfully and rigorously engaging people in both imagining and forging a better world together. ✨ Connect with Ayọ here: 👉https://ayotometi.org   Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.  In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

Thomas is joined by Helena Norberg-Hodge, a bestselling author, filmmaker, and pioneer of the new economy movement. They discuss the fundamental importance of reconnecting with nature, local food systems, and community as antidotes to the damaging impacts of globalization. She shares her experiences working with Indigenous cultures and explores how localization not only heals people and places but also addresses major issues like climate change, food security, and social fragmentation. Together, they explore the intersection of systemic trauma, environmental sustainability, and the path toward a more interconnected and resilient future.   ✨ Did you miss the 2024 Collective Healing Conference? Thomas recently convened a groundbreaking conference featuring conversations with 40+ luminaries and experts, including Dr. Gabor Mate, Alanis Morisette, Dr. Peter Levine, Dr. Mariel Buqué, Dr. Stephen Porges, and more. Sign up below to watch FREE highlights from the conference, or get the full conference package including healing meditations, integration practices, and speaker bonuses to help you explore new pathways to growth, healing, and profound change. Register for the free highlights here: 👉 https://collectivehealingconference.com ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com    ✨ Order Thomas’ new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com   Helena Norberg-Hodge is a linguist, author, filmmaker, and pioneer of the new economy movement. She’s the founder and director of Local Futures, and the convenor of World Localization Day and the Planet Local Summit. She is the founder of the International Alliance for Localisation and a co-founder of the International Forum on Globalization and the Global Ecovillage Network. Based on decades of experience in indigenous cultures, Helena has been promoting a big-picture understanding of the foundations of human, as well as ecological wellbeing.  ✨ Connect with Helena here: 👉 http://www.helenanorberghodge.com   Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.  In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

In this solo episode, Thomas unravels the mysteries of attunement. Discover how this practice goes far beyond conventional emotional intelligence and continues into deeper connections and spiritual growth. Uncover the keys to transparent communication, trauma healing, and accessing subtle spiritual information for personal and collective transformation.   ✨ Did you miss the 2024 Collective Healing Conference? Thomas recently convened a groundbreaking conference featuring conversations with 40+ luminaries and experts, including Dr. Gabor Mate, Alanis Morisette, Dr. Peter Levine, Dr. Mariel Buqué, Dr. Stephen Porges, and more. Sign up below to watch FREE highlights from the conference, or get the full conference package including healing meditations, integration practices, and speaker bonuses to help you explore new pathways to growth, healing, and profound change. Register for the free highlights here: 👉 https://collectivehealingconference.com ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com    ✨ Order Thomas’ new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com   Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.  In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

In this special bonus episode, Thomas reads Verse 25 from the Tao Te Ching, offers his analysis, and shares how we can come back to living a life that is more informed by inner balance in a world that is often out of balance. This episode is dedicated to a cherished member of our team, the late Digo Delgado. His adventurous spirit, kindness, and laugh touched everyone who had the privilege of knowing him. We dedicate this episode in loving memory to Digo, with gratitude for all of his contributions and the time we shared.   ✨ Did you miss the 2024 Collective Healing Conference? Thomas recently convened a groundbreaking conference featuring conversations with 40+ luminaries and experts, including Dr. Gabor Mate, Alanis Morisette, Dr. Peter Levine, Dr. Mariel Buqué, Dr. Stephen Porges, and more. Sign up below to watch FREE highlights from the conference, or get the full conference package including healing meditations, integration practices, and speaker bonuses to help you explore new pathways to growth, healing, and profound change. Register for the free highlights here: 👉 https://collectivehealingconference.com ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  ✨ Order Thomas’ new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com   Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.  In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

Thomas is joined by Buddhist teacher, Founder and head teacher of Upaya Zen Center, social activist, and author, Roshi Joan Halifax. They discuss Roshi Joan’s pioneering work in end-of-life care, and how spirituality can inform and inspire more compassionate activism.  Roshi Joan shares her insights on how decades of practice have equipped her to navigate suffering with resilience, how compassion benefits both the giver and receiver, and the importance of embracing moral challenges with grace. She and Thomas also explore the importance of community, mindfulness, and meditation in healing trauma, and how this can lead to beautiful post-traumatic growth. ✨ Did you miss the 2024 Collective Healing Conference? Thomas recently convened a groundbreaking conference featuring conversations with 40+ luminaries and experts, including Dr. Gabor Mate, Alanis Morisette, Dr. Peter Levine, Dr. Mariel Buqué, Dr. Stephen Porges, and more. Sign up below to watch FREE highlights from the conference, or get the full conference package including healing meditations, integration practices, and speaker bonuses to help you explore new pathways to growth, healing, and profound change. Register for the free highlights here: 👉 https://collectivehealingconference.com ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com    ✨ Order Thomas’ new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com   Roshi Joan Halifax, Ph.D. is a Buddhist teacher, Founder and Head Teacher of Upaya Zen Center in Santa Fe, New Mexico, a social activist, and author, and in her early years an anthropologist. She is a pioneer in the field of end-of-life care and has lectured on death and dying at many academic institutions and medical centers around the world. She has received many awards and honors for her work as a social and environmental activist and in the end-of-life care field. For decades, she has worked with dying people and their families and taught healthcare professionals and family caregivers the psycho-social, ethical, and spiritual aspects of care for the dying.  ✨ Connect with Roshi Joan here: 👉 https://www.joanhalifax.org   Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.  In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

Thomas is joined by internationally recognized speaker, author, and expert in the field of attachment theory and trauma resolution, Dr. Diane Poole Heller. They discuss Diane’s work in attachment theory, exploring how our early experiences with our caregivers affect our attachment styles, and what we can do to move into secure attachment in our relationships. Dr. Heller views trauma as a broken connection—with ourselves, our lives, the earth, or other people—and explains how therapists and healers can co-regulate and attune with their clients’ nervous systems to create a safe environment for transforming trauma. Dr. Heller believes that we can interface with the energy of trauma in a way that doesn’t cause overwhelm, and opens us to maturation, spiritual experiences, and changes in consciousness. She and Thomas also discuss how working collectively in a group amplifies healing, and how all therapists and healers are ultimately agents of grace. ✨ Did you miss the 2024 Collective Healing Conference? Thomas recently convened a groundbreaking conference featuring conversations with 40+ luminaries and experts, including Dr. Gabor Mate, Alanis Morisette, Dr. Peter Levine, Dr. Mariel Buqué, Dr. Stephen Porges, and more. Sign up below to watch FREE highlights from the conference, or get the full conference package including healing meditations, integration practices, and speaker bonuses to help you explore new pathways to growth, healing, and profound change. Register for the free highlights here: 👉 https://collectivehealingconference.com ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com    ✨ Order Thomas’ new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com   Diane Poole Heller, PhD is an internationally recognized speaker, author, and expert in the field of attachment theory and trauma resolution. Her signature approach—DARe (Dynamic Attachment Repatterning experience)—provides therapists and individuals with relevant skills and practical exercises that facilitate healing from attachment and trauma wounds. Diane’s training programs, books, lectures, and work as a therapist have helped countless people in their healing journey toward experiencing greater intimacy, wholeness, and more fulfilling relationships.  ✨ Connect with Dr. Heller here: 👉 https://dianepooleheller.com   Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.  In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

Thomas shares deep insights into how we can embody the soul's wisdom and increase our capacity to be present and form a deeper alliance with life. He shares tools and practices for becoming more grounded and spacious in our daily lives, and in challenging situations, and how that gives us the courage, curiosity, and strength to turn difficulties into growth, expansion, and wisdom. He also offers embodiment practices to help us connect our physical and emotional data streams, creating a more coherent awareness of our internal processes, and increasing our natural intuition and capacity for change.  As Thomas explains, we are all part of an interconnected world, but trauma tends to create a sense of separation. Reconnecting to the essence of life helps us develop a deeper sense of ourselves so that we can achieve greater regulation and resilience. ✨ Did you miss the 2024 Collective Healing Conference? Thomas recently convened a groundbreaking conference featuring conversations with 40+ luminaries and experts, including Dr. Gabor Mate, Alanis Morisette, Dr. Peter Levine, Dr. Mariel Buqué, Dr. Stephen Porges, and more. Sign up below to watch FREE highlights from the conference, or get the full conference package including healing meditations, integration practices, and speaker bonuses to help you explore new pathways to growth, healing, and profound change. Register for the free highlights here: 👉 https://collectivehealingconference.com ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  ✨ Order Thomas’ new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/  Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.  In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl