Thomas Hübl explores what it means to get in touch with our deepest humanity, live our spirituality with respect to the freedom of all humans, and move through the world with embodied awareness. We are all composed of a divine light—an unbroken stream of data that began with our oldest ancestors. But we have also inherited trauma from those who came before us, and from the events of our own lives. Healing and integrating these traumas has an ecosystemic impact, it ripples out to those around us and opens us to the spiritual dimension. But healing isn’t just about transcending our pain, it requires integration, and more importantly—humility. It requires us to own our transgressions and include their lessons in our spiritual practice. Thomas shares how this inclusivity generates wisdom and opens us to greater generosity, deeper insights, and more warmth and love in our lives. ✨ Become a member of Thomas Hübl’s online global community, The Mystic Café, and join us for Nourishing Your Nervous System: A 7-Day Reset. Embark on a 7-day journey designed to nurture your nervous system, restore balance, and awaken vitality. Through daily teachings, practical exercises, and a connected community, you’ll rediscover a sense of grounding, creativity, and freedom. Learn more & join the 7-Day Reset here: 👉 https://www.mysticcafeonline.com ✨ Are you feeling called to guide others in embodied spiritual practice, conscious relational skill-building, and contemplative exploration? Do you want to create and lead a Thomas Hübl Practice Group in your community, or add greater depth to your personal practice? Join our Global Cohort of the Practice Group Leader Training (PGLT), led by Thomas’ authorized instructors Eva Geidt and Rae Riedel. Learn more and apply by clicking here!   ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com    Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.  In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

Thomas Hübl and NYT bestselling author and the host of the podcast, Pulling the Thread, Elise Loehnen, explore the nature of shadow, evil, and collective trauma from a mystical and spiritual perspective.  They discuss the impact of unprocessed pain and ancestral wounds, the obstacles we face as we work to integrate our individual and collective shadows, and the challenges (and benefits) of staying present in a world shaped by both light and darkness.  Elise poses profound questions about the moral qualities of evil, while Thomas offers insights into the interconnectedness of the human experience and what it means to take responsibility—both for your own actions, and for harms perpetrated by others that you have unwittingly benefitted from. ✨ Become a member of Thomas Hübl’s online global community, The Mystic Café, and join us for Nourishing Your Nervous System: A 7-Day Reset. Embark on a 7-day journey designed to nurture your nervous system, restore balance, and awaken vitality. Through daily teachings, practical exercises, and a connected community, you’ll rediscover a sense of grounding, creativity, and freedom. Learn more & join the 7-Day Reset here: 👉 https://www.mysticcafeonline.com   ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com    Elise Loehnen is a New York Times bestselling author and the host of the podcast, Pulling the Thread, where she interviews cultural luminaries about the big questions of today. She’s the author of the New York Times bestselling On Our Best Behavior: The Seven Deadly Sins and the Price Women Pay to be Good. She has also co-written 12 books, including five New York Times Best Sellers. Previously, she was the chief content officer of goop. While there, Elise co-hosted The goop Podcast and The goop Lab on Netflix, and led the brand’s content strategy and programming. For the podcast, she interviewed 100’s of thought leaders, doctors, and experts.  Prior to goop, she was the editorial projects director of Conde Nast Traveler. Before Traveler, she was the editor at large and deputy editor of Lucky Magazine, where she also served as the on-air spokesperson, appearing regularly on shows like Today, E!, Good Morning America, and The Early Show.  She has a B.A. from Yale and majored in English and Fine Arts. These days, she serves on two boards (Jeni’s Splendid Ice Creams and Skinfix), advises a beauty bio-tech start-up (Arcaea), and spends her time writing, reading, and fundraising for causes and politicians focused on environmental action, social justice, women and children’s health, and a more equitable world. ✨ Connect with Elise here: 👉 https://eliseloehnen.com   👉 https://eliseloehnen.substack.com   Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.  In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl   ✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/  ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com

Thomas reads a short passage from the Tao Te Ching and shares spiritual practices and conceptual tools to help you let go of unhelpful ideas you’re clinging to and create spaciousness in your mind and body.   ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com    Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.  In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

Thomas is joined by Dr. Shefali, a clinical psychologist, bestselling author, and host of the Parenting & You podcast. Dr. Shefali is an expert on “Conscious Parenting,” an approach to raising children that focuses on the need for parents to identify and heal from their own traumas—especially childhood traumas—so that they don’t pass on harmful patterns and behaviors to their kids. She and Thomas discuss the importance of creating emotional safety in parent-child relationships (and all relationships) in order to create an environment where a child, friend, or partner can be their authentic self. They also cover how to identify triggers and how being in touch with your physical body allows you to be more in touch with your emotions. Dr. Shefali stresses that sometimes growth requires a level of discomfort, and a relinquishing of control, but doing the hard work of becoming more present and self-aware is the best thing you can do for your children. ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  Dr. Shefali is a New York Times bestselling author of books on conscious living and mindful living. She is the founder of the amazing Conscious Parenting and Life Coaching Institute, where she trains coaches to use her method and to help others. Dr. Shefali has her own podcast called Parenting & You With Dr. Shefali, which is available everywhere podcasts are heard. ✨ Connect with Dr. Shefali here: 👉 https://www.drshefali.com/  Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.  In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl   ✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/  ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com

Thomas is joined by Tamala Floyd, a psychotherapist, IFS lead trainer, speaker, and the author of “Listening When Parts Speak: A Practical Guide to Healing with Internal Family Systems Therapy and Ancestor Wisdom.” They discuss the relationship between the “Self” and the multiple “parts” of the self in Internal Family Systems work, and how understanding and integrating our protective parts helps us heal past traumas and establish a stronger relationship with our innate, inner selves. Tamala shares wisdom on ancestral healing, explaining how intergenerational trauma work supports IFS work, and helps us to free ourselves from patterns and behaviors that don’t serve us. She and Thomas also explore the concept of “legacy burdens”—wounds and harms that we’ve inherited from our ancestors or our culture that impact our lives—and how we can learn to release them.   ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com    Tamala Floyd is a psychotherapist, author, IFS lead trainer, consultant, and retreat leader with over 25 years of experience. Her latest book, "Listening When Parts Speak: A Practical Guide to Healing with Internal Family Systems Therapy and Ancestor Wisdom," focuses on healing personal and generational trauma. ✨ Connect with Tamala here: 👉 https://tamalafloyd.com   Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.  In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

In this engaging conversation, Michael Meade, a renowned storyteller and scholar of mythology, highlights the power of transformation in our lives. He discusses the importance of embracing change and the role of rites of passage in personal growth. Meade emphasizes how acknowledging our wounds can lead to healing and connection with nature. He also explores the significance of elders within communities, reimagining their role as facilitators of wisdom and support during cultural upheavals. Together, they invite listeners to see tumultuous times as opportunities for renewal.

Thomas Hübl dives deep into how we can learn to be more grounded in stressful moments, and grow our resilience, agency, and ability to respond to challenges. He shares insights and practices to activate curiosity, exploring how we can expand our individual healing into the community. We're living in a very complex time - a global poly-crisis situation where the topics reverberating in the world might feel overwhelming, isolating, triggering, distancing, even creating indifference. Thomas focuses on learning to recognize overwhelm and create space within ourselves, in our environment, and in our relationships so that integration and healing can occur. Where would you like more space in your life, to create the possibility of a different outcome, a new future? Tune in for fresh insights on cultivating space and nurturing wisdom, resilience, and loving-kindness in an increasingly complex world. ✨ NEW Self-Paced Course from Thomas Hübl: Navigating the Levels of Trauma Healing ✨ A 6-module online training to manage anxiety, overwhelm, and nervous system dysregulation during times of accelerated change and disruption. Explore a new paradigm to move fluidly between different types of trauma healing and learn new tools and approaches to better manage and integrate what is occurring both personally and collectively. For a limited time, you’ll receive a $100 discount on course tuition when you register via this special link: 👉 https://www.navigatingthelevelsoftrauma.com/podcast   ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com    Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.  In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

Thomas Hübl shares practices and perspectives to help us navigate the challenges that may arise as many of us gather with our families and communities for the holidays.  In situations where differing opinions and issues from childhood can often lead to tension, reactivity, and conflict, it sometimes feels impossible to stay grounded, present, and spacious enough to handle these moments.  With practice, we can learn to recognize our emotions, know how they feel in our bodies, and gain a better understanding of our inner experience so that we can integrate what arises. Then, we can transform difficult moments into opportunities for growth and connection. Or, we can see more clearly when the healthy decision is to walk away. Thomas explores how we can train ourselves to be more regulated so that we can approach relational challenges with curiosity instead of judgment, and create space to host discomfort and disagreement with fluidity, maturity, and love. ✨ NEW Self-Paced Course from Thomas Hübl: Navigating the Levels of Trauma Healing ✨ A 6-module online training to manage anxiety, overwhelm, and nervous system dysregulation during times of accelerated change and disruption. Explore a new paradigm to move fluidly between different types of trauma healing and learn new tools and approaches to better manage and integrate what is occurring both personally and collectively. For a limited time, you’ll receive a $100 discount on course tuition when you register via this special link: 👉 https://www.navigatingthelevelsoftrauma.com/podcast   ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com    Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.  In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl  

Thomas is joined by author, activist, spiritual teacher, racial equity consultant and trainer, and intuitive healer, Michelle Cassandra Johnson. They discuss a new paradigm of collective care and healing inspired by the natural wisdom of honeybees. Michelle, an amateur beekeeper, shares what she’s learned about interconnectedness, adaptation, attunement, and longevity from these incredible creatures. She and Thomas also explore how we can find the medicine that lives within us and learn to recognize and harness our inner resources for healing.  We live in chaotic times, within harmful systems, and suffer from constant distractions that dysregulate our nervous systems. Thomas and Michelle share how leaning into community, fostering safe healing spaces, and practicing rituals and ceremonies can help us connect with the great and beautiful mystery of life and turn a feeling of lack into a sense of enoughness.   ✨ NEW Self-Paced Course from Thomas Hübl: Navigating the Levels of Trauma Healing ✨ A 6-module online training to manage anxiety, overwhelm, and nervous system dysregulation during times of accelerated change and disruption. Explore a new paradigm to move fluidly between different types of trauma healing and learn new tools and approaches to better manage and integrate what is occurring both personally and collectively. For a limited time, you’ll receive a $100 discount on course tuition when you register via this special link: 👉 https://www.navigatingthelevelsoftrauma.com/podcast   ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com    Michelle Cassandra Johnson is an author, activist, spiritual practitioner, racial equity consultant, and intuitive healer whose work is grounded in an understanding that we can and must heal individually and collectively. She has authored several books, including Skill in Action and Finding Refuge, and has spoken extensively about racial equity, justice, and our connection with nature. ✨ Connect with Michelle here:  👉 https://www.michellecjohnson.com   Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.  In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

In this special bonus episode, Thomas shares a powerful presencing practice focused on conscious enjoyment. In our day-to-day lives, how often are we taking the time to stop and really focus on an embodied experience of enjoyment?  Thomas shares why this is an important part of a well-rounded spiritual practice, and how this can help us release stress-based thought patterns and reinvigorate our lives.   ✨ NEW Self-Paced Course from Thomas Hübl: Navigating the Levels of Trauma Healing ✨ A 6-module online training to manage anxiety, overwhelm, and nervous system dysregulation during times of accelerated change and disruption. Explore a new paradigm to move fluidly between different types of trauma healing and learn new tools and approaches to better manage and integrate what is occurring both personally and collectively. For a limited time, you’ll receive a $100 discount on course tuition when you register via this special link: 👉 https://www.navigatingthelevelsoftrauma.com/podcast   ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com    Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.  In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl