Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl

Are you tired of life feeling heavy, stuck in repetitive patterns dictated by the past? This week, Thomas explores the revolutionary idea that life is a fluid, rewritable process. Discover how awakening to the Kundalini stream connects you to the ever-present flow of creation, allowing you to redefine existence by its pure presence, not a chain of cause and effect. This journey is a continuous path of refining your present experience and embracing movement as the very essence of life, transforming daily challenges into powerful opportunities for deeper insight and presence. Learn spiritual practices and integration tools to help you grapple with the heaviness of the world’s karma, realign with divine creation, and experience profound abundance and freedom.✨ Click here to watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:👉 https://youtu.be/oDuLstjbakkVideo episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl ✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here:👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/   ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future:👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9Mentioned in this episode:Collective Trauma Summit 2025✨ Join us at the 7th annual Collective Trauma Summit, a FREE 7-day online gathering with embodied practices, guided reflection, powerful interviews, and live events, guided by Thomas and over 40 expert leaders in trauma-healing, embodiment, somatics, and social change. Speakers include Dr. Richard Schwartz, Prentis Hemphill, Cheryl Strayed, Francis Weller, Gabby Bernstein, Rick Hanson, Sonya Renee Taylor, and many more. This year, we’ve partnered with mission-driven organizations, including the Internal Family Systems Institute, the Embodiment Institute, Poetry Unbound, and more, to help you deepen your understanding of trauma and see how healing can become a force for transformation in your life, your community, and the world. We hope to see you there!CTS2025

“Nature positive is people positive. Without harmony with nature, there won't be a bright future for people.”https://pointofrelationpodcast.com/podcast/marco-lambertini-reconnecting-with-naturebefore-its-too-late/This week, Thomas Hübl sits down with Marco Lambertini, the Convener of the Nature Positive Initiative, to explore humanity's deep, inherent connection to nature, what’s at stake if climate destruction continues to accelerate, and what we can do to stop it.Marco’s Nature Positive movement is working on actionable measures to reverse nature loss by 2030, bringing more forests, fish, and healthy ecosystems back to our planet. Despite the massive challenges we’re facing, he believes that we have the understanding, technology, and means to achieve this goal, but we can’t do it without both personal and systemic transformation.The future of our planet’s ecosystem is intrinsically linked to our own well-being, economy, and future. This discussion is a powerful call to action, reminding us that this generation holds the historic opportunity to put humanity on a completely different, more harmonious course. ✨ Click here to watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:👉 https://youtu.be/wwad6NzJx2QVideo episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com ✨ Marco Lambertini is the Convener of the Nature Positive Initiative. His experience and career range from ecological field research to high-level advocacy and international policy, nature reserve management, integrated conservation and development projects, environmental education, NGO development, communications, and campaigning in many countries all over the world.Connect with Marco here:👉 https://www.naturepositive.orgLearn about the Nature Positive Initiative's project to align state of nature metrics here:  👉 https://www.naturepositive.org/metrics And you can read the first ever Nature Positive book  👉 https://www.naturepositive.org/book Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl ✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here:👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/   ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future:👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9Mentioned in this episode:Collective Trauma Summit 2025✨ Join us at the 7th annual Collective Trauma Summit, a FREE 7-day online gathering with embodied practices, guided reflection, powerful interviews, and live events, guided by Thomas and over 40 expert leaders in trauma-healing, embodiment, somatics, and social change. Speakers include Dr. Richard Schwartz, Prentis Hemphill, Cheryl Strayed, Francis Weller, Gabby Bernstein, Rick Hanson, Sonya Renee Taylor, and many more. This year, we’ve partnered with mission-driven organizations, including the Internal Family Systems Institute, the Embodiment Institute, Poetry Unbound, and more, to help you deepen your understanding of trauma and see how healing can become a force for transformation in your life, your community, and the world. We hope to see you there!CTS2025

Can we approach discomfort and tension as opportunities for growth? Can humanity mature beyond divisive conflict?This week, Thomas is joined by much loved returning guest, NYT bestselling author, and the host of the podcast, Pulling the Thread, Elise Loehnen, to hash out the concerning fragmentation that feels inescapable right now and explore what we can do to combat it.As we face past and current collective traumas, massive information overload, and current events that overwhelm our nervous systems, it’s not hard to see how we got here. Thomas and Elise offer hopeful frameworks for navigating these challenges and bolstering our ability to hold tension, engage in mature disagreement, and ultimately, re-humanize each other through deeper understanding and self-regulation. This goes beyond surface-level “wellness” to incorporate psychological, spiritual, and practical approaches that we can adopt to build a stronger foundation for our individual and collective futures. It’s an inspiring conversation that we hope you’ll tune in for.✨ Click here to watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:👉 https://youtu.be/Qf7eBUa8Td4Video episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com ✨ Elise Loehnen is a New York Times bestselling author and the host of the podcast, Pulling the Thread, where she interviews cultural luminaries about the big questions of today. She’s the author of the New York Times bestselling On Our Best Behavior: The Seven Deadly Sins and the Price Women Pay to be Good. She has also co-written 12 books. She was the chief content officer of goop, where she co-hosted The goop Podcast and The goop Lab on Netflix, and led the brand’s content strategy and programming. She was previously the editorial projects director of Conde Nast Traveler and the editor at large and deputy editor of Lucky Magazine, where she served as the on-air spokesperson.Connect with Elise here:👉 https://eliseloehnen.com👉  https://eliseloehnen.substack.com Read Elise's workbook, "Choosing Wholeness Over Goodness," for free here 👉https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/771811/choosing-wholeness-over-goodness-by-elise-loehnen-and-courtney-smith/Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s newest book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here:👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/  ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.comTake our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future:👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9Mentioned in this episode:Collective Trauma Summit 2025✨ Join us at the 7th annual Collective Trauma Summit, a FREE 7-day online gathering with embodied practices, guided reflection, powerful interviews, and live events, guided by Thomas and over 40 expert leaders in trauma-healing, embodiment, somatics, and social change. Speakers include Dr. Richard Schwartz, Prentis Hemphill, Cheryl Strayed, Francis Weller, Gabby Bernstein, Rick Hanson, Sonya Renee Taylor, and many more. This year, we’ve partnered with mission-driven organizations, including the Internal Family Systems Institute, the Embodiment Institute, Poetry Unbound, and more, to help you deepen your understanding of trauma and see how healing can become a force for transformation in your life, your community, and the world. We hope to see you there!CTS2025

This discussion dives into the vital role of space in personal growth and healing. It emphasizes that space is not just an empty void but a crucial element for reflection and integration. By understanding how both internal and external spaces support us, listeners can explore deeper wisdom and compassion in their lives. The podcast also offers tools to connect with inner resilience and navigate challenges, transforming fear into a source of personal empowerment.

What is Polyvagal Theory and how does it explain the science of feelings?This week, Thomas sits down with Dr. Stephen Porges, a professor, author, and the originator of Polyvagal Theory.Dr. Porges’ theory offers radical yet practical methods for calming our physical (or “biobehavioral”) states so that our mind can follow suit. Traditionally, the opposite approach has been the norm, but research increasingly indicates that the body should lead the charge.In this conversation, it’s made clear that safety, connection, and co-regulation are essential for this type of nervous system regulation. Thomas and Dr. Porges explore what’s needed to create an environment that supports healing, and how Polyvagal Theory enhances our ability to handle crises and heal trauma, anxiety, and physical ailments linked to nervous system dysregulation.Dr. Porges also shares a cutting-edge acoustic technique for trauma healing that could lead to a real paradigm shift in psychology and therapy.✨ Click here to watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:👉 https://youtu.be/M1PFXXnXpEYVideo episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  ✨ Stephen W. Porges, Ph.D. is a Distinguished University Scientist at Indiana University where he is the founding director of the Traumatic Stress Research Consortium in the Kinsey Institute, and recipient of a National Institute of Mental Health Research Scientist Development Award. He is the originator of the Polyvagal Theory, and the creator of a music-based intervention, the Safe and Sound Protocol™.Connect with Dr. Porges here:👉 https://www.polyvagalinstitute.org👉  https://www.stephenporges.comLearn about The Polyvagal Institute Certificate Course: 👉 https://www.polyvagalinstitute.org/pv...Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl ✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here:👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/   ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future:👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9Mentioned in this episode:Collective Trauma Summit 2025✨ Join us at the 7th annual Collective Trauma Summit, a FREE 7-day online gathering with embodied practices, guided reflection, powerful interviews, and live events, guided by Thomas and over 40 expert leaders in trauma-healing, embodiment, somatics, and social change. Speakers include Dr. Richard Schwartz, Prentis Hemphill, Cheryl Strayed, Francis Weller, Gabby Bernstein, Rick Hanson, Sonya Renee Taylor, and many more. This year, we’ve partnered with mission-driven organizations, including the Internal Family Systems Institute, the Embodiment Institute, Poetry Unbound, and more, to help you deepen your understanding of trauma and see how healing can become a force for transformation in your life, your community, and the world. We hope to see you there!CTS2025

“The person doesn't have a soul, the soul has a person.”This week, Thomas goes deep in a spiritual teaching that explores the essence of the soul—an energy field that enfolds our consciousness and our life and is fundamentally connected to the collective and the planet. Through embodied spiritual practice, we can become spacious enough to let in divine light, ground it in the physical world, and open ourselves to subtle capacities and deeper sensing. Using these practices, we also become more resilient to challenges, and can face uncertainty with creative energy instead of anxiety.Thomas also shares how embodied presence is essential to healing and helps to repair the fragmentation that trauma creates. ✨ Click here to watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:👉 https://youtu.be/oVnLzOrW898Video episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl ✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here:👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/   ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future:👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9 Mentioned in this episode:Collective Trauma Summit 2025✨ Join us at the 7th annual Collective Trauma Summit, a FREE 7-day online gathering with embodied practices, guided reflection, powerful interviews, and live events, guided by Thomas and over 40 expert leaders in trauma-healing, embodiment, somatics, and social change. Speakers include Dr. Richard Schwartz, Prentis Hemphill, Cheryl Strayed, Francis Weller, Gabby Bernstein, Rick Hanson, Sonya Renee Taylor, and many more. This year, we’ve partnered with mission-driven organizations, including the Internal Family Systems Institute, the Embodiment Institute, Poetry Unbound, and more, to help you deepen your understanding of trauma and see how healing can become a force for transformation in your life, your community, and the world. We hope to see you there!CTS2025

Can humanity’s ethical and spiritual maturity catch up to our technological progress? Or will this gap in development lead to catastrophe?To explore our collective path forward, Thomas sits down with Dr. Roger Walsh, a Professor of Psychiatry, Philosophy, and Anthropology, and the host of the Deep Transformation podcast. Their conversation mines the depths of our inner worlds, finding hope in the idea that kindness, generosity, and altruism are more inherent and natural to humans than selfishness, separateness, and over-consumption.Our civilization is at risk, but man-made crises can be unmade by deep collective learning, cultivating inner awareness, embracing ethical living, and integrating historical trauma. Thomas and Dr. Walsh draw insights from global wisdom traditions and share contemplative practices and practical steps that we can take to help humanity “level-up” our maturity and spiritual consciousness. ✨ Click here to watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:👉 https://youtu.be/MZsHpFKAdvIVideo episodes are posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com ✨ Dr. Roger Walsh is a professor of psychiatry at the University of California, a meditation student and researcher, a Tibetan Buddhist Lama, author of books such as Essential Spirituality: The Seven Central Practices, and cohost of the podcast Deep Transformation: Self-Society-Spirit, which is ranked in the top 2% of the world's podcasts.Connect with Dr. Walsh here: 👉  https://www.drrogerwalsh.com    👉  https://www.deeptransformation.io  Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl ✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here:👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/   ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future:👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9Mentioned in this episode:Collective Trauma Summit 2025✨ Join us at the 7th annual Collective Trauma Summit, a FREE 7-day online gathering with embodied practices, guided reflection, powerful interviews, and live events, guided by Thomas and over 40 expert leaders in trauma-healing, embodiment, somatics, and social change. Speakers include Dr. Richard Schwartz, Prentis Hemphill, Cheryl Strayed, Francis Weller, Gabby Bernstein, Rick Hanson, Sonya Renee Taylor, and many more. This year, we’ve partnered with mission-driven organizations, including the Internal Family Systems Institute, the Embodiment Institute, Poetry Unbound, and more, to help you deepen your understanding of trauma and see how healing can become a force for transformation in your life, your community, and the world. We hope to see you there!CTS2025

What if there was a practice that helped us collectively witness and digest world events without becoming overwhelmed, indifferent, or numb? What if this practice could lead to new levels of collective healing?Thomas sits down with Kosha Joubert to discuss this revolutionary practice, called Global Social Witnessing. Kosha is the CEO of the Pocket Project, a non-profit organization co-founded by Thomas that’s dedicated to growing a culture of trauma-informed care.Global Social Witnessing addresses our current lack of societal rituals for processing traumatic world events. It offers a way to move beyond individual overwhelm to collectively face challenges with greater presence, compassion, and agency for positive change. It joins people across borders and cultures to co-regulate and bring an embodied awareness to our collective nervous system. And you can do it from the comfort of your own home!Kosha also shares details about the Pocket Project’s Global Social Witnessing Facilitator Training, which you can learn more about here: https://pocketproject.org/global-social-witnessing-training/?ref=86 Click here to watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:👉 https://youtu.be/H0VXsO9wJj0 ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  ✨Kosha Anja Joubert serves as CEO of the Pocket Project, dedicated to growing a culture of trauma-informed care. Kosha has worked extensively in the fields of systems regeneration, intercultural collaboration, and trauma-informed leadership. She grew up in South Africa under Apartheid and has been dedicated to transformational edgework ever since. She has authored several books and received the Dadi Janki Award (2017) for engaging spirituality in life and work and the One World Award (2020) for building the Global Ecovillage Network to a worldwide movement reaching out to over 6000 communities on all continents.Connect with Kosha and The Pocket Project here: 👉 https://pocketproject.org/ Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl ✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here:👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/   ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future:👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9Mentioned in this episode:Collective Trauma Summit 2025✨ Join us at the 7th annual Collective Trauma Summit, a FREE 7-day online gathering with embodied practices, guided reflection, powerful interviews, and live events, guided by Thomas and over 40 expert leaders in trauma-healing, embodiment, somatics, and social change. Speakers include Dr. Richard Schwartz, Prentis Hemphill, Cheryl Strayed, Francis Weller, Gabby Bernstein, Rick Hanson, Sonya Renee Taylor, and many more. This year, we’ve partnered with mission-driven organizations, including the Internal Family Systems Institute, the Embodiment Institute, Poetry Unbound, and more, to help you deepen your understanding of trauma and see how healing can become a force for transformation in your life, your community, and the world. We hope to see you there!CTS2025

In this teaching, Thomas Hubl focuses on the heart as not just a physical organ but a central hub for emotional maturity, spiritual development, mind-body integration, and connection to universal intelligence.He offers a guided contemplative practice to lead you into the depth of your heart space so that you can listen deeper to your own truths, integrate mind and body, become a deeper listener for others, and better regulate your nervous system.Click here to watch the video version of this episode on YouTube: 👉 https://youtu.be/KJFL1IDFxvEVideo episodes are posted at 8am Los Angeles / 11am NY ✨ There's still time to enroll in Thomas' new course - Whole-Being Wellness: Aligning Mind, Body, and Spirit for a Vibrant LifeThrough guided practices, reflection tools, and community learning, we will develop new ways to care for ourselves and one another in a time when true well-being is needed more than ever. Expert guest teachers include Dr. Terry Real, Dr. Uma Naidoo, Iya Affo, and Ross Gay. Learn more here:👉 https://www.whole-beingwellness.com Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future:👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9 ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl ✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here:👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/   ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com

Can we metabolize our pain to create an entry point into liberation? How can spirituality support us in this process?This week, Thomas sits down with Buddhist minister, author, and activist Lama Rod Owens to share visions for collective liberation, the importance of reconnecting with Indigenous worldviews, sacred ecology, and unseen worlds, and strategies to overcome hopelessness and despair as we work to dismantle harmful systems.They explore the intersection of individual and collective trauma, the connection between spiritual awakening and social justice, and the importance of meeting suffering and discomfort with kindness and presence instead of bypassing it for short-term relief.It’s a wide-ranging and inspiring conversation that bridges the mystical and the practical, and we hope you’ll tune in.Click here to watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:👉 https://youtu.be/l1tRGQPRy3U ✨ Join Thomas’ course - Whole-Being Wellness: Aligning Mind, Body, and Spirit for a Vibrant LifeThrough guided practices, reflection tools, and community learning, we will develop new ways to care for ourselves and one another in a time when true well-being is needed more than ever. Expert guest teachers include Dr. Terry Real, Dr. Uma Naidoo, Iya Affo, and Ross Gay.Learn more and enroll here: 👉 https://www.whole-beingwellness.com✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  ✨ Lama Rod Owens is a Black Buddhist Southern Queen and international influencer with a Master of Divinity degree in Buddhist Studies from Harvard Divinity School. He has over 11 years teaching experience, and is an author of books like Love and Rage: The Path of Liberation through Anger and Radical Dharma: Talking Race, Love and Liberation, which he co-authored. His teachings focus on freedom and radical self-care. Known for his engaging and inclusive approach, he has been featured by various national and international media outlets.Connect with Lama Rod here: 👉 https://www.lamarod.com Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl ✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here:👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/   ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future:👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9 Mentioned in this episode:Collective Trauma Summit 2025✨ Join us at the 7th annual Collective Trauma Summit, a FREE 7-day online gathering with embodied practices, guided reflection, powerful interviews, and live events, guided by Thomas and over 40 expert leaders in trauma-healing, embodiment, somatics, and social change. Speakers include Dr. Richard Schwartz, Prentis Hemphill, Cheryl Strayed, Francis Weller, Gabby Bernstein, Rick Hanson, Sonya Renee Taylor, and many more. This year, we’ve partnered with mission-driven organizations, including the Internal Family Systems Institute, the Embodiment Institute, Poetry Unbound, and more, to help you deepen your understanding of trauma and see how healing can become a force for transformation in your life, your community, and the world. We hope to see you there!CTS2025