
The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Michael Mogill
How can you become a game changer?Michael Mogill, Founder and CEO of Crisp, has used his mastery of marketing for lawyers to grow his company to an 8-figure powerhouse. In just a few years, Crisp has helped thousands of attorneys adapt to the new legal landscape, differentiate themselves from the competition, and earn millions in new revenue.In every episode, you’ll hear from law firm entrepreneurs and market leaders — people who flourish in the face of adversity, challenge the status quo, and define what it means to be a game changer.We investigate success stories and business growth and scalability strategies that can help you attract your ideal clients. Plus, discover hidden insights and actionable advice on how company culture and employee engagement, marketing and advertising, and management and hiring fit into the big picture.What do all our guests have in common? These successful attorneys and business owners prove that the key to innovation is a game-changing mindset. If you want to run your law firm like an entrepreneur, achieve a greater ROI, and build a world-class organization that stands the test of time, then you’re in good company.Subscribe to the Game Changing Attorney Podcast and get ready to take your business to the next level.For more information, visit https://www.crisp.co/podcast/
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Feb 15, 2024 • 46min
238. Dorie Clark — The Long Game: How to Be a Long-Term Thinker in a Short-Term World [Encore Edition]
Looking into a crystal ball won't reveal the future, but best-selling author and the world's #1 communication coach Dorie Clark is here to guide you toward better preparation for what lies ahead.In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Dorie and Crisp Founder & CEO Michael Mogill delve into:
The underlying reasons behind our obsession with busyness
The transformational concept of strategic patience
Why growth is an endless journey
----Show Notes:05:03 – Mastering strategic patience08:50 – Clear your calendar14:30 – Say “no” to mediocre offers23:10 – Consider your future self27:05 – The 4 waves of your career32:25 – Learning is infinite36:00 – Long-term essentials----Links & Resources
The Long Game: How to Be a Long-Term Thinker in a Short-Term World by Dorie Clark
TEDx
Derek Sivers
Ukraine
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#197 Robert Greene – The Laws of Power and Human Nature
#223 Chad Willardson – Achieving Financial Freedom: Strategies for Building Abundant Wealth
#201 AMMA – Take The Stairs: The Real Path to Growth

Feb 13, 2024 • 21min
237. AMMA — Breaking Out of Complacency: Transformation Through Innovation
As the saying goes, “What got you here won’t get you there.” The most successful leaders of the fastest-growing organizations know that they must constantly reinvent themselves to stay on top.In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill discuss:
How to maintain a competitive advantage in a rapidly changing market
Why the most innovative firms accept a high risk of failure
How to combat complacency and embrace new challenges
----Show Notes:04:57 – Check your blindspots06:30 – Two must-have traits: paranoia and pain tolerance 10:00 – Reinvent yourself14:08 – Think ahead and move faster15:54 – Be willing to fail----Links & Resources
Sears
Blockbuster
Blackberry
S&P 500
University of Alabama Football
New England Patriots
Only The Paranoid Survive (Book)
Bill Gates
Floyd Mayweather
Google LSAs
TikTok
Peter Principle
Formula 1
Elf (Movie)
Motel 6
The Four Seasons
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#158 Alex Hormozi – The Power of Humility in Achieving Entrepreneurial Success
#172 Marcus Lemonis – The Three Keys to Business: People, Process, and Product
#210 AMMA – Failure Isn’t Final: Lessons Learned from Setbacks and Struggles

Feb 8, 2024 • 1h 25min
236. Andre Norman — Turning Poverty and Prison into a Purpose-Driven Life [Encore Edition]
Andre Norman's life journey has been nothing short of incredible. From a past marked by incarceration to his subsequent transformation into a Harvard fellow, his story is both inspiring and extraordinary. Today, his mission centers around eradicating mass incarceration in all its various manifestations.In this exceptional episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Andre and Michael Mogill candidly discuss:
The harsh realities of life within the confines of a prison
The mindset crucial for breaking free from incarceration and building a purposeful existence
The voyage toward recovery at both an individual and societal level
----Show Notes:05:29 – Everyone deserves a chance.08:30 – Prisoners run the prisons. Guards just work there.12:32 – Achieving shot-caller status.28:11 – Headlines sell fear.29:58 – Surviving maximum security.35:45 – Making smarter choices.----Links & Resources
Massachusetts
Michael Brown, Jr.
Trayvon Martin
Tamir Rice
Sandra Bland
George Floyd
Harvard
The Penitentiary System
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#216 Richard Montañez – Conquer Fear, Create Opportunity, and Take Charge of Your Destiny
#168 Ryan Holiday – The Obstacle Is The Way
#196 AMMA – The Nine Sources of Advantage

Feb 6, 2024 • 19min
235. AMMA — Lessons From Losses: Transforming Mistakes Into Opportunity
To move forward, it can be beneficial to look backward — but only with the right intention and perspective.In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill discuss:
Why we learn more from our losses than our wins
How to strike a balance between pursuing future goals and feeling pride in past and present accomplishments
Why our goals and desires are subject to evolution
----Show Notes:3:48 – “Mistakes” is another word for “experience”7:58 – Why your future should always be greater than your past10:27 – Stop trying to make everyone happy15:21 – Decisiveness = progress ----Links & Resources
Tom Brady
Super Bowl
Nick Saban
Game Changers Summit 2022 at the Mercedes-Benz Stadium
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#7 Cy Wakeman – Ditching The Drama & Creating A Culture of Excellence In Your Law Firm
#193 Dan Fleyshman – Just Get Started: A Serial Entrepreneur’s Secret To Success
#183 AMMA – How Great Leaders Make Decisions

Feb 1, 2024 • 47min
234. Henry Cloud — Authentic & Transcendental Leadership [Encore Edition]
Dr. Henry Cloud is a boundaries expert, leadership coach, spiritual guide, author, speaker, and mentor — but above all, he’s direct.In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Dr. Cloud draws on his extensive experience in clinical psychology and leadership development to cut through the noise and get at the heart of what it means to be an exceptional leader.He and Crisp Founder & CEO Michael Mogill discuss:
Why success is equal to your ability to confront
The motivation shared by the most effective leaders
Becoming a transformational leader by focusing on unity, not division
----Show Notes:6:40 – Learn to lead.11:02 – The role of a CEO.13:53 – Don’t carry the weight alone.16:08 – Become a leader worth following.31:52 – Confrontation can be good.37:15 – Unity over power.----Links & Resources
Character Structure
Boundaries for Leaders by Dr. Henry Cloud
How to Have That Difficult Conversation by Dr. Henry Cloud
www.drcloud.com
Boundaries.me Program
Leadership University
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#166 John Maxwell – Leadership Is A Verb, Not A Noun
#188 Liz Wiseman – Impact Players: How To Take The Lead, Play Bigger, and Multiply Your Impact
#185 AMMA – How To Recognize, Reward, and Motivate Your Team

Jan 30, 2024 • 18min
233. AMMA – How to Find Meaning in the Journey
At the end of the day, we’re all just pursuing a life of fulfillment. But that means different things to different people — and even at different phases of life.On this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill explore deeper topics around success and fulfillment, including:
Why work-life balance is a myth
The ways your goals will evolve throughout your life
Why comparison is the thief of joy
----Show Notes:4:32 – Balance is a myth.9:14 – Money solves money problems.12:20 – Your goals will change as you do.15:26 – Stop playing the comparison game.----Links & Resources
David Goggins on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast
Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs
Kevin O'Leary on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast
Forbes
Alex Hormozi on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast
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#190 Kevin O’Leary – The Entrepreneurial Journey: Inside The Mind of Mr. Wonderful
#229 David Goggins – Never Finished: Unshackle Your Mind And Win The War Within
#194 AMMA – The Harsh Truth About Entrepreneurial Success

Jan 25, 2024 • 60min
232. Ross Pomerantz — Sales, Satire, and Social Media: The Unconventional Journey of Corporate Bro
Ross Pomerantz is the Creator of Corporate Bro & Founder of Corp Capital — and he’s taking the social media world by storm.In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, he and Crisp Founder & CEO Michael discuss:
What really happens in the world of sales
Why catering to everyone means resonating with no one
How to cultivate a large and engaged social media community
----Show Notes:[4:11] – The Reality of Sales and the Birth of Corporate Bro[6:49] The Evolution of Corporate Bro and the Power of Comedy[13:34] – The Importance of Accountability and Sales in Business[21:25] – The Power of LinkedIn for Business and Personal Branding[29:54] – The Power and Pitfalls of Social Media Algorithms[30:37] – Five Strategies to Cultivate a Large and Engaged Social Media Community[32:10] – The Art of Creating Engaging Video Content[34:43] – Advice for Aspiring Content Creators[38:03] – The Process and Challenges of Content Creation[40:01] – The Evolution of the Corporate Bro Brand[50:55] – The Role of Gaming in Work-Life Balance[56:09] – Final Thoughts on Being a Game Changer----Links & Resources
Atlanta Braves
Oracle
Corporate Bro
Dilbert comics
Vine
8 Mile (film)
Total Frat Move
BroBible
The New York Times
The Wall Street Journal
Brotopia by Emily Chang
Cloudflare
Larry Ellison
Marc Benioff
Madison Square Garden
Software as a service (SaaS)
ChatGPT
Duolingo
DUDE Wipes
Barstool Sports
LeBron James
Michael Jordan
Golden State Warriors
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#105 Jason Hehir – Leading and Documenting Winning Teams
#193 Dan Fleyshman – Just Get Started: A Serial Entrepreneur’s Secret To Success
#150 AMMA – Success, Marketing, and How To Go Out of Business

Jan 23, 2024 • 36min
231. Steven Kotler — Harnessing Neuroscience for Peak Performance [Encore Edition]
Studies show that we only use 10 percent of our total brain capacity. But what would you do if you could use 100 percent of your brain? How would your life change?Steven Kotler — best-selling author, Pulitzer Prize nominee, and founder of the Flow Research Collective — has made it his life’s mission to discover everything he can about our greatest assets: our brains. On this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Steven and Crisp Founder & CEO Michael Mogill explore:
Why genetics and background don’t determine what you can accomplish
How far understanding your brain and body will take you
What it takes to achieve the impossible
----Show Notes:[5:19] – Perfect upbringing does not determine peak performance[7:38] – Leveraging advantages and overcoming disadvantages[9:32] – The 4 pillars of your brain[12:05] – How to save your brain’s energy[19:50] – Keep going, even when you don’t feel like it[23:55] – Goals achieved are their own reward[26:34] – Protect your sphere of attention----Links & Resources
Johns Hopkins University
Squaw Valley/Palisades Tahoe
Jackson Hole, WY
Norepinephrine
Harvard University
Stealing Fire: How Silicon Valley, the Navy SEALs, and Maverick Scientists Are Revolutionizing the Way We Live and Work by Steven Kotler
Flow Research Collective
Mat Fraser
James Lawrence
Stewart Brand
Super Bowl
The Art of Impossible by Steven Kotler
The Devil’s Dictionary by Steven Kotler
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#62 Mat Fraser – The Fittest Man On Earth
#171 Adam Alter – Anatomy Of A Breakthrough
#173 AMMA – Healthy Habits and High Performance

Jan 18, 2024 • 26min
230. AMMA — How To Achieve Bigger Goals
As your organization grows — and as you grow as its leader — you will set bigger goals.But what’s the key to scaling your discipline, inner circle, and team motivation along with those bigger goals?In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Crisp Founder & CEO Michael Mogill mines his experiences to share what he’s learned about:
The most disciplined approaches to setting and achieving your goals
How to unite with your advocates and shed your anchors
Why motivation simply cannot be taught
----Show Notes:[4:49] – Why there must be strategic thinking behind the goals you define[8:30] – Bigger goals means changing strategies, not working harder[11:56] – How to unite with your advocates and shed your anchors[14:37] – Great leaders aim for 'less wrong' over 'right or wrong'[16:22] – Pay the price of “hard” now or “way harder” later[18:48] – The problem with motivation----Links & Resources
You Can’t Teach Hungry by John Morgan
Episode 1 of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast featuring John Morgan
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#71 Tim Grover – WINNING: The Unforgiving Race To Greatness
#101 Dr. Ayelet Fishbach – Get It Done: Surprising Lessons From The Science of Motivation
#228 AMMA – How To Actually Achieve Your Goals

Jan 16, 2024 • 1h 3min
229. David Goggins — Never Finished: Unshackle Your Mind and Win the War Within [Encore Edition]
Everyone aspires to greatness. But few are willing to put in the pain and work it takes to get there. David Goggins is one of the few.In this intense episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, you’ll hear a no-holds-barred conversation between David and Crisp Founder & CEO Michael Mogill about:
How to transform criticism into fuel for growth
Why discipline separates the good from the great
How to unleash your inner savage
How to unlock new levels of mental strength
----Show Notes:2:54 – Why David Goggins resonates11:44 – The realization that started it all14:04 – Why actions speak louder than words19:02 – The power of an alter ego28:02 – The concept of taking souls31:24 – Stop bullsh*tting yourself36:17 – What fuels David today43:49 – Why lessons are learned in the journey, not the accomplishments49:46 – Discipline > Talent55:31 – What separates the common from the uncommon----Links & Resources
Never Finished: Unshackle Your Mind and Win the War Within by David Goggins
Can’t Hurt Me by David Goggins
United States Navy SEALs
Michelle Obama
Tim Grover
Michael Jordan
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#71 Tim Grover – WINNING: The Unforgiving Race to Greatness
#63 Mat Fraser – The Fittest Man on Earth
#194 AMMA – The Harsh Truth About Entrepreneurial Success
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