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CSIS | Center for Strategic and International Studies
A podcast unpacking critical issues underpinning China’s emergence as a global power.
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Oct 10, 2024 • 51min
Getting China’s Defense Spending Right: A Conversation with M. Taylor Fravel, George J. Gilboy, and Eric Heginbotham
In this episode of the ChinaPower Podcast, Dr. Taylor Fravel, Dr. George Gilboy, and Dr. Eric Heginbotham join us to discuss their recent article assessing China's defense budget. They challenge widely cited figures that estimate China's defense spending at $700 billion and provide an apples-to-apples analysis based on purchasing power parity. They assess China's defense spending is around $470 billion, about one-third of the U.S. defense budget, and detail what categories they included and excluded. The conversation explores the analytical shortcomings of current estimates, emphasizing the need for appropriate exchange rates and like-for-like item comparisons between China's and the U.S.'s defense budgets. They also discuss China's military priorities and modernization efforts and key factors that may determine the future trajectory of Chinese defense spending. Dr. M. Taylor Fravel is the Arthur and Ruth Sloan Professor of Political Science and director of the Security Studies Program at MIT, specializing in international security with a focus on China and East Asia. He is the author of Strong Borders, Secure Nation and Active Defense: China's Military Strategy Since 1949, with numerous publications in leading journals like International Security and Foreign Affairs. A Rhodes Scholar and Andrew Carnegie Fellow, he holds degrees from Middlebury, Stanford, LSE, and Oxford. Fravel also serves on the board of the National Committee on U.S.-China Relations and leads the Maritime Awareness Project. Dr. George J. Gilboy is a senior fellow at the Center for International Studies, Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT). George concurrently heads Woodside Energy’s Tokyo office. From 2013 to 2018, George was chief economist and vice president of business environment in Perth, leading Woodside’s corporate forecasting team. George lived and worked in China from 1994 to 2013 in roles with Woodside, Shell, Cambridge Energy Research, and Tsinghua University. George holds a BA from Boston College and a PhD in political economy from MIT. Dr. Eric Heginbotham is a principal research scientist at MIT’s Center for International Studies and a specialist in Asian security issues. Before joining MIT, he was a senior political scientist at the RAND Corporation, where he led research projects on China, Japan, and regional security issues and regularly briefed senior military, intelligence, and political leaders. Prior to that he was a senior fellow of Asian Studies at the Council on Foreign Relations. After graduating from Swarthmore College, Heginbotham earned his PhD in political science from MIT. He is fluent in Chinese and Japanese and was a captain in the US Army Reserve.

Sep 26, 2024 • 42min
How Russia Views China: A Conversation with Dr. Andrea Kendall-Taylor
In this episode of the ChinaPower Podcast, Dr. Andrea Kendall-Taylor joins us to discuss the evolving relationship between Russia and China. Dr. Kendall-Taylor discusses the broader geopolitical factors driving Russia’s desire to strengthen ties with China. She analyzes Russia’s increasing dependence on China in the context of its war in Ukraine, and recent reports that China may be providing lethal aid to Russia. Dr. Kendall-Taylor also explores the dynamics between Putin and Xi, highlighting how their close relationship shapes the strategic coordination between the two countries. Finally, Dr. Kendall-Taylor addresses potential challenges for Europe and the United States in responding to this growing alignment.Dr. Andrea Kendall-Taylor is a senior fellow and director of the Transatlantic Security Program at CNAS, specializing in national security issues, particularly regarding Russia, authoritarianism, and the transatlantic alliance. She previously served as deputy national intelligence officer for Russia and Eurasia at the National Intelligence Council (NIC) in the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (DNI). She also served as a senior analyst at the CIA, focusing on Russia, autocratic regimes, and democratic decline. Outside CNAS, she is a distinguished practitioner in grand strategy at Yale’s Jackson School, and an adjunct professor at Georgetown University’s School of Foreign Service. Her work has appeared in numerous prominent journals including Journal of Peace Research, Democratization, Journal of Democracy, Foreign Affairs, The Washington Post, The Washington Quarterly, and Foreign Policy. She holds a BA from Princeton and a PhD from UCLA. Kendall-Taylor was also a Fulbright scholar in Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan.

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Sep 12, 2024 • 40min
China’s Evolving Energy Security: A Conversation with Dr. Michael Davidson
Dr. Michael Davidson, an expert in energy systems, discusses the evolution of China's energy security over the past decade. He highlights the impact of climate change and the Russian invasion of Ukraine on China's energy priorities. Davidson examines the significant power shortages in 2021 and 2022, which intensified the focus on energy reliability. He also explores the delicate balance between energy security and emission reduction, and how these evolving policies shape China's foreign relations and collaboration opportunities in clean energy.

Aug 28, 2024 • 34min
Recent Developments in Sino-Russian Relations: A Conversation with Dr. Elizabeth Wishnick
Dr. Elizabeth Wishnick, a senior research scientist and former political science professor specializing in Sino-Russian relations, delves into the nuances of recent China-Russia interactions. She deciphers the implications of the May 2024 Xi-Putin summit and highlights new military exercises that showcase their strategic coordination. Wishnick also discusses the significance of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization summit and predicts the future trajectory of Sino-Russian ties amidst rising global tensions.

Aug 15, 2024 • 44min
Unpacking China’s Anti-Secession Law: A Conversation with Dr. I-Chung Lai and Professor Jacques deLisle
Join Dr. I-Chung Lai, president of the Prospect Foundation and a key player in Taiwan's Democratic Progressive Party, and Professor Jacques deLisle, a geopolitical expert, as they delve into the implications of China's 2005 Anti-Secession Law. They dissect the contentious Article 8, outlining conditions for potential military action against Taiwan. The conversation touches on China's recent '22 Opinions' that could criminalize foreign support for Taiwanese independence, raising significant human rights concerns. Their insights include strategic recommendations for the U.S. and Taiwan on responding to this complex legal landscape.

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Aug 1, 2024 • 33min
Outcomes of China’s Third Plenum: A Conversation with Scott Kennedy
Scott Kennedy, a senior adviser at CSIS and an expert in Chinese economic policy, discusses the implications of China's Third Plenary Session. He highlights the lack of drastic changes in economic measures but warns of challenges from the leadership's statist approach. The conversation reveals the link between national security and economic strategies, focusing on high-tech development as a key to reducing reliance on foreign industries. Kennedy also shares cautious predictions for China's economic growth in the next two years amid various domestic challenges.

Jul 18, 2024 • 40min
The Implications of the Putin-Kim Summit: A Conversation with Dr. Victor Cha
In this episode of the ChinaPower Podcast, Dr. Victor Cha joins us to discuss his major takeaways from the June 2024 Putin-Kim summit and the significance of North Korea and Russia’s new mutual defense clause for the international community. Dr. Cha dissects how North Korea's relationships with Russia and China have evolved over time and notes that the new defense clause gives North Korea an opportunity to leverage its closer relationship with Russia to its advantage vis-a-vis North Korea-China relations. Dr. Cha explains the global and regional implications of the mutual defense agreement. Finally, Dr. Cha discusses his recommendations for how the United States, South Korea, and other and allies and partners should address this growing relationship. *This podcast was recorded prior to the 2024 NATO DC Summit. Dr. Victor Cha is a Senior Vice President for Asia and holds the CSIS Korea Chair. He is professor of government and holds the D.S. Song-KF Chair in the Department of Government and the School of Foreign Service (SFS) at Georgetown University. In July 2019, he was appointed vice dean for faculty and graduate affairs in SFS. While working for the White House between 2004-2007, Dr. Cha was the director for Asian affairs at the National Security Council. He was responsible primarily for Japan, the Korean peninsula, Australia/New Zealand, and Pacific Island nation affairs. Dr. Cha was also the deputy head of delegation for the United States at the Six-Party Talks in Beijing. He is the author of five books, including the award-winning Alignment Despite Antagonism: The United States-Korea-Japan Security Triangle.

Jul 3, 2024 • 44min
China’s Ethnic Minority Policy: A Conversation with Dr. Aaron Glasserman
Dr. Aaron Glasserman discusses China's ethnic minority policies, emphasizing CCP's efforts to assimilate minorities into Han identity. He highlights Xi Jinping's push for ethnic fusion and lack of collective organization among minority groups. China's policies have minimal impact on its international image and foreign policy.

Jun 21, 2024 • 37min
Takeaways from the 2024 Shangri-La Dialogue: A Conversation with Meia Nouwens
In this episode of the ChinaPower podcast Meia Nouwens joins us to discuss the major themes and takeaways from the 2024 Shangri-La Dialogue. She discusses this year’s record number of high-level participants and the significance of the dialogue for regional security. Nouwens unpacks both Chinese Defense Minister Dong Jun’s and U.S. Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin’s speeches and analyzes what they can tell us about the current state of U.S.-China relations. Finally, Nouwens speaks to how China’s participation and actions this year differed from previous years and what messages China may have been conveying regarding its approach to global security going forward.Meia Nouwens is a senior fellow for Chinese Security and Defense Policy at the International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS). Her expertise lies in Chinese cross-service defense analysis, China’s defense industry and innovation, as well as China’s regional strategic affairs and international relations. She leads IISS research on China’s Digital Silk Road and was a co-lead of the China Security Project with the Mercator Institute for China Studies. Prior to commencing at IISS, she worked for the European External Action Service as a policy officer in Taipei, and as a trade analyst in the EU’s delegation to New Zealand. Meia holds a BA Hons in international relations and political science from Macquarie University, a master’s in international relations and diplomacy from Leiden University in conjunction with the Clingendael Institute, and an MPhil in modern Chinese studies from the University of Oxford and Peking University.

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Jun 7, 2024 • 42min
China’s Upstart Strategy: A Conversation with Dr. Oriana Skylar Mastro
Dr. Oriana Skylar Mastro discusses China's rise to power using the 'Upstart' approach, emphasizing entrepreneurship and strategic gaps. She explores China's strategies of emulation, exploitation, and entrepreneurship, contrasting them with past rising powers. Recommendations for US policy include encouraging beneficial emulation and exploring new strategies for international security cooperation.