
Podcast Marketing Trends Explained: Data-Driven Podcast Growth Strategies
It's easier than ever to launch and produce a podcast. But it's never been harder to grow one.
On this show, we break down and explore what the data says about what it takes to market and grow a podcast in 2025 to help you make smarter decisions about your show, grow faster, and earn more.
Together, cohosts—and longtime podcasters, creators, and marketers—Jeremy Enns (Podcast Marketing Academy) and Justin Jackson (Transistor.fm) explore topics like:
How do you define success for your podcast?
What are the most effective marketing strategies, tactics, and growth channels for podcasts?
What does the data say about how to structure your show and episodes?
Which social media channels should you focus on as a podcaster?
How do you stack up to other shows?
Using the data uncovered by the annual Podcast Marketing Trends Report, our goal is to make sense of the numbers and turn them into actionable insights that you can use to create a better show and market it more effectively.
You can find the latest report at podcastmarketingtrends.com.
Latest episodes

Feb 12, 2025 • 2min
Introducing: Season 2 of Podcast Marketing Trends Explained
It’s a turbulent time to be a podcaster.YouTube and Spotify are introducing discovery algorithms that have the potential to both help and hurt creators. The rise of video podcasting is challenging the very definition of what a podcast even is. And AI… well, you already know about AI.In short, being a podcaster today means trying to keep your head above water in the firehose of noise that is constantly flooding your listeners’ screens, feeds, and even personal recommendations.So the question is: In the face of all of this noise, competition, and change, what are we as creators supposed to do? Or, maybe a better question: Who are the podcast creators and marketers who are making the most of this changing podcast landscape, and what can we learn from the way they’re creating and marketing their shows, that we can apply to our own?In Season 2 of Podcast Marketing Trends Explained, our goal is to get to the bottom of these questions, using a mix of data and personal insights and observations from our own podcasting experiments.In every episode, we’ll take one key data point from the latest Podcast Marketing Trends Report, and break down what it means for you as a podcast creator, producer, or marketer, so you can make smarter, savvier, data-driven decisions about how to make and market your show.You can check out the full report at podcastmarketingtrends.com and hit subscribe wherever you’re listening now to get every episode of this season.⭐️ Get a free podcast marketing audit with personalized recommendations to help you grow: https://go.podcastmarketingacademy.com/audit-pmte-sn ⭐️ResourcesSubscribe to Podcast Marketing Trends ExplainedCheck out the Podcast Marketing Trends 2024 ReportSubscribe to the Scrappy Podcasting NewsletterTry Transistor.fm for free for 14 days✍️ Leave your feedback for the show: http://podcastmarketingtrends.com/feedback

Apr 30, 2024 • 1h 26min
Inside the Growth Strategies of Two of The Smartest Podcasters Alive
In a fascinating conversation, Chris Hutchins, host of "All the Hacks," and Jay Clouse of "Creator Science" share their insights on podcast growth. They discuss the importance of community engagement, innovative advertising strategies, and the balance between creating quality content and building relationships. The duo emphasizes using metrics for marketing optimization and explores the power of guest appearances for audience conversion. Tune in for their unique approaches to turning podcasting into a thriving business!

Apr 23, 2024 • 58min
Stupid Mistakes, Happy Accidents & Surprising Insights From Making & Marketing Our First 20 Episodes
The hosts reflect on their podcast journey, including mistakes and insights gained. They discuss the impact of YouTube, engagement rates, and experimenting with episode structures. They brainstorm new show concepts and seek listener feedback on future directions.

Apr 16, 2024 • 60min
We Asked Podcast Listeners Why They Stopped Listening (And They Didn’t Hold Back)
Listeners share why they stop listening to podcasts. Only 5% are regular listeners. Factors affecting listener engagement discussed. Strategies for retaining listeners through quality content. Importance of episode titles in capturing interest. Audience engagement and retention strategies explored.

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Apr 9, 2024 • 1h 8min
6 Storytelling Principles to Hook & Retain Listeners (That Apply to Every Show)
Discover the core storytelling principles for engaging podcasts, including sound vision, scene structuring, and creating surprise. Learn how to be a better interviewer, incorporate suspense, and deliver fantastic cross-promotion pitches. Explore examples and insights from experienced producers, and delve into the art of storytelling through real-life narratives and unique town features. Uncover the strategies for crafting memorable interactions and creating evergreen storytelling content in podcasts.

Apr 2, 2024 • 1h 1min
The 10k Timeline: How Long It Takes to Reach 10k dl/ep (& How to Accelerate the Process)
We all know success doesn’t happen overnight. But what does the data say about how long it takes to reach 1k… or 10k downloads per episode? Podcasting is inherently a slow-growth medium. Without a central discovery system offering the potential for virality, growing a podcast is a long game of slow, steady, incremental growth that compounds over time. But while you might expect growth to be somewhat slow when you start out, how long should it take before it speeds up? In this episode, we’re breaking down what the data says about how long it takes the typical show to reach the 1k and 10k milestones, the factors that influence those timelines, and what you can do to accelerate the process. 📊 What did you think of this episode? Click to cast your vote: 🤩 Nailed It! 🙂 Solid 🥱 Meh 😒 Do betterTopics Covered00:00 Intro00:59 Podcast growth lessons from Warren Buffett 05:00 When typical shows hit the 1k & 10k dl/ep milestones 10:36 How experience affects a show’s growth rate 15:21 What everyone gets wrong about consistency in podcasting 26:16 The powerful compounding of relationships 31:33 Stacking micro-improvements to your show with every episode 35:26 Strategies for navigating (and avoiding) creative burnout 38:28 Building your transferable skill set 44:22 Our personal stories of creative compounding that have got us here 56:12 The impact of mentorship and constructive critique⭐️ Get a free podcast marketing audit with personalized recommendations to help you grow: https://podcastmarketingacademy.com/audit ⭐️ResourceMike Birbiglia’s Podcast, *Working It Out* Build and Launch, Past Project by Justin JacksonMega Maker, Project by Justin Jackson Subscribe to Podcast Marketing Trends ExplainedCheck out the Podcast Marketing Trends 2023 ReportSubscribe to the Scrappy Podcasting NewsletterTry Transistor.fm for free for 14 days✍️ Leave your feedback for the show: http://podcastmarketingtrends.com/feedback

Mar 26, 2024 • 50min
3 Creative Decisions That Dictate Your Show's Success… or Failure
How long should your episodes be? What’s the best format for growth? Plus... the single most important decision you can make if you want to grow. Before you launch a new show, you have to make a number of creative decisions that set the course of your show. Will you do an interview, solo, or co-hosted show? How long should your episodes be? How often will you release new episodes? And who is this actually for? These structural decisions tend to get made once, sometimes without much thoughts… but they cast a long shadow over the growth potential of your show forever. So how do you ensure you’re making decisions that align with your goals and give you the best chance at success? 📊 What did you think of this episode? Click to cast your vote: 🤩 Nailed It! 🙂 Solid 🥱 Meh 😒 Do betterTopics Covered00:00 Intro00:53 How much does a podcast's structure matter in terms of its success? 03:26 Breaking down our recent episode length experiment10:12 A better question than “how long should my episodes be?” 19:03 Which show format is best for growth? 23:48 The impact of podcast format for success and audience growth 25:22 What makes for a great interview show? 25:43 The art of crafting compelling interview shows 29:45 What makes for a great solo podcast? 33:31 What makes a great co-hosted show? 37:01 How we would design a show to get to 50k downloads/episode⭐️ Get a free podcast marketing audit with personalized recommendations to help you grow: https://podcastmarketingacademy.com/audit ⭐️ResourcesAkimboYou're Wrong AboutHow I WriteEssay - Hide Your WorkTanner Campbell - Practical StoicismPod Save America podcastAll In podcastSubscribe to Podcast Marketing Trends ExplainedCheck out the Podcast Marketing Trends 2023 ReportSubscribe to the Scrappy Podcasting NewsletterTry Transistor.fm for free for 14 days✍️ Leave your feedback for the show: http://podcastmarketingtrends.com/feedback

Mar 19, 2024 • 45min
80/20 Podcast Marketing: Turn Your Limited Time Into Maximum Growth
Most podcasters waste their time on these tasks that will never lead to growth. Are you? Producing a regular podcast is one of the most grueling, time-intensive forms of content creation in existence.But what if 80% of the time you’re currently spending on your show isn’t actually contributing to growth? In other words, what if you could get the same results while spending drastically less time on your show? Or, what if you were to redirect that time towards higher leverage activities that actually did move the needle for growth?📊 What did you think of this episode? Click to cast your vote:🤩 Nailed It!🙂 Solid🥱 Meh😒 Do betterTopics Covered00:00 Intro02:13 Breaking Down the Numbers: Data on high-growth show time spends 08:39 What stood out from the categories of growth in the data? 11:19 Where to spend time when you’re first starting your show 19:18 Finding opportunities to improve your show in your daily life 20:48 Where to spend your time once your show has traction 29:00 Time-sucking tasks to ignore or eliminate 40:21 The ultimate amplifier of every hour you spend on your show 42:37 How much time are you spending on your show each week?⭐️ Get a free podcast marketing audit with personalized recommendations to help you grow: https://podcastmarketingacademy.com/audit ⭐️ResourcesDavid Perrell: How I Write PodcastChat GPTEveryone Hates MarketersIra GlassSubscribe to Podcast Marketing Trends ExplainedCheck out the Podcast Marketing Trends 2023 ReportSubscribe to the Scrappy Podcasting NewsletterTry Transistor.fm for free for 14 days✍️ Leave your feedback for the show: http://podcastmarketingtrends.com/feedback

Mar 12, 2024 • 1h 3min
How We'd Spend $500/$2,500/$10,000 to Grow Our Podcast (& the Lessons You Can Apply to Any Budget)
Discover how to maximize your podcast growth with budgets ranging from $500-$10,000 per month. Explore strategies like advertising, branding, audience engagement, and outsourcing. Learn how to allocate funds for production, marketing, and tools to achieve the best ROI for your podcast growth.

Mar 5, 2024 • 60min
3 (Non-Social) Marketing Channels High-Growth Shows Use to 2x Their Audience
Everyone loves to talk about podcasting's so-called "Discoverability Problem". But does it actually exist? And if not, what are the marketing channels you as a creator can tap into to get your show in front of more of your ideal listeners? In this episode, we break down three types of listener acquisition channels and how you can leverage them to grow your show... without social media and without a discovery algorithm. 📊 What did you think of this episode? Click to cast your vote:🤩 Nailed It!🙂 Solid🥱 Meh😒 Do betterTopics Covered00:54 Does the Podcast Discoverability Problem actually exist?04:49 What the data shows about the effectiveness of various marketing channels08:37 Writing is often a strong indicator of success in podcasting11:18 How to pick the right marketing channel for you12:06 The three types of marketing channels at your disposal15:36 Owned media: The low-hanging fruit for many creators24:14 What most podcasters get wrong about growth through collaborations37:01 When is the right time to start paid listener acquisition?46:34 How to kickstart word-of-mouth growth?52:47 Your homework for this episode⭐️ Get a free podcast marketing audit with personalized recommendations to help you grow: https://podcastmarketingacademy.com/audit ⭐️ResourcesFamous & Gravy Podcast AlliesAnswer The PublicPodRollSubscribe to Podcast Marketing Trends ExplainedCheck out the Podcast Marketing Trends 2023 ReportSubscribe to the Scrappy Podcasting NewsletterTry Transistor.fm for free for 14 daysConnect with Jeremy on Twitter | LinkedInConnect with Justin on Twitter | LinkedIn✍️ Leave your feedback for the show: http://podcastmarketingtrends.com/feedback
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