
Interior Integration for Catholics
The mission of this podcast is the formation of your heart in love and for love, Together, we shore up the natural, human foundation for your spiritual formation as a Catholic. St. Thomas Aquinas asserts that without this inner unity, without this interior integration, without ordered self-love, you cannot enter loving union with God, your Blessed Mother, or your neighbor. Informed by Internal Family Systems approaches and grounded firmly in a Catholic understanding of the human person, this podcast brings you the best information, the illuminating stories, and the experiential exercises you need to become more whole in the natural realm. This restored human formation then frees you to better live out the three loves in the two Great Commandments – loving God, your neighbor, and yourself. Check out the Resilient Catholics Community which grew up around this podcast at https://www.soulsandhearts.com/rcc.
Latest episodes

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Jun 5, 2023 • 2h 22min
114 Lifting Sexual Burdens: An IFS demonstration with Drew Boa
Have you ever wondered what inner work with Internal Family Systems looks like with troubling sexual issues? Join us as podcaster and coach Drew Boa reviews an unburdening of three of his parts from a sexual issue with Dr. Peter and other Christian therapists.

May 15, 2023 • 1h 13min
113 A Demonstration of IFS and Your Questions about Anger
Join RCC Lead Navigator Marion Moreland and Dr. Peter for a demonstration of Internal Family Systems work around anger, followed by a Q&A where we discuss with our live audience member the topics of exiled anger, forgiveness, and legacy burdens.

May 1, 2023 • 1h 15min
112 Assuaging Raging Hearts and Parts: Managing Anger with IFS
In this episode, Dr. Peter takes close look at an alternative way to manage, work through, and let go of anger, informed by Internal Family Systems (IFS), and especially by the work of Jay Earley. After a brief review of the major tenets of IFS, we discuss how to work through the different ways that manager parts, firefighter parts and exiled parts hold and manage anger. We look at the functions of anger in the internal system and especially at the process, the steps of working through and resolving anger held by parts in different roles. Then Dr. Peter discusses how parts of him hold and respond to anger in a particular subsystem of parts within his broader internal system.

Apr 17, 2023 • 1h 10min
111 Approaching my Anger from the Other Side: Experiential Exercise
In this live experiential exercise, Dr. Peter leads listeners through an experiential exercise that explores why anger might feel important, necessary, even indispensable for parts. We look at how anger can develop from parts feeling forced to choose between attachment needs and integrity needs being met. Dr. Peter and the audience members shared a lively, personal debriefing and discussion of their experience of the exercise.

Apr 5, 2023 • 33min
110 Being with Jesus in the Garden of Gethsemane – Experiential Exercise
(Please note that sound effects are used in this episode and may be triggering to parts.)In this experiential exercise I invite you and your parts to approach Jesus in the psychological, emotional, relational, and bodily anguish He suffered in His humanity in the Garden of Gethsemane. Which parts of you might avoid Jesus, turn away from Him in His suffering -- and why? Here is an opportunity to gently learn more about how our parts react to Jesus and to gently connect with them in understanding and compassion.

Apr 3, 2023 • 60min
109 Jesus' Psychological Agony in the Garden
We explore the inner experience of Jesus and the psychological, emotional, relational, and bodily anguish He suffered in His humanity in the Garden of Gethsemane as the drama of of salvation history unfolded. We also explored the reactions of the apostles Peter, James, and John to the experience of Jesus' agony.

Mar 20, 2023 • 54min
108 Giving up the Idols We Hate -- Experiential Exercise
In this experiential exercise, we invite parts of us to share their stories of why they hold anger toward God. Dr. Peter offers an invitation to parts to see if we can listen to those stories in an open, nonjudgmental way, understanding that there are always reasons for anger at God, reasons that stem from misunderstanding and misinterpretations of experiences. Parts are angry more at their images of God -- their idols -- than at who God really is. Live audience participants share their experience in debriefing and Dr. Peter also answers questions.

Mar 6, 2023 • 1h 34min
107 How to Work Through your Anger at God
Summary: Dr. Peter walks you through the four tracks or pathways Catholics commonly follow with their anger at God, tracks proposed by Michele Novotni and Randy Petersen in their 2001 book Angry with God, and elaborates on them extensively. These four tracks are 1) Trust in God Track; 2) the Cover-Up Track; 3) the Wrestle with God Track; and 4) the Long-Distance / Disconnect Track. We discuss how to better resolve anger issues with God through a wide variety of means with a focus on practical solutions. Dr. Peter emphasizes the importance of God images, felt safety and protection, a sense of trust, the infused virtue of Faith, courage and fortitude, and the critical role of emotional co-regulation in working through anger at God.

Feb 20, 2023 • 57min
106 God in the Hands of Angry Sinners -- Experiential Exercise
In this episode, informed by Internal Family Systems and grounded firmly in a Catholic worldview, Dr. Peter guides you to connect with your spiritual manager parts who protect you against your own anger at God, getting to know those parts' concerns about why anger at God is dangerous or unacceptable. This is an important step in the journey to working through your anger at God. We discuss how to work safely with your parts, with a spirit of cooperation and collaboration, not rushing. Come join us on an adventure inside. At the end, audience participants debrief, share their experiences with Dr. Peter and he answers questions.

Feb 6, 2023 • 1h 36min
105 How You Hide from your Anger at God
In this episode, we explore: 1) How anger at God is far more common and intense that you realize; 2) Why you need to work through your anger at God; 3) Your hidden reasons for your anger at God; 4) Why your anger at God is so frequently banished to your unconscious; 5) 16 defense mechanisms that drive your anger at God outside of your awareness; 6) How your anger at God is so often overpowered by your fear of God; and 7) The signs and symptoms of your unacknowledged anger at God.
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