

Industry Relations
Rob Hahn and Greg Robertson
This is Industry Relations, a podcast that is at the intersection of real estate and technology from an insider's perspective. Hosted weekly by Rob Hahn (The Notorious ROB) and Greg Robertson.
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Nov 20, 2024 • 59min
The knowns and unknowns of NAR leadership decisions
The hosts explore the complexities of leadership decisions in real estate, focusing on NAR's CEO and membership challenges for 2024. They dive into membership retention strategies amidst controversies and discuss the fallout from a $2 billion broker club. A lively debate unfolds about effective leadership, emphasizing the importance of visible action versus behind-the-scenes work. Additionally, the role of member surveys in fostering communication and rebuilding trust in leadership is highlighted, making for a thoughtful conversation filled with insights.

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Nov 13, 2024 • 56min
And they all fall down...
Greg shares reflections from the NAR Boston conference, highlighting the election's potential impact on HUD and real estate policies. The duo discusses complexities within MLS structures and the possible domino effect of changes to the Clear Cooperation Policy. With Zillow's influence on MLS under scrutiny, they critique NAR's transparency in communications surrounding these sensitive issues. The conversation also touches on MLS independence and the future of in-person events in a shifting landscape.

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Nov 6, 2024 • 1h 1min
Industry Relations Podcast: The Worst of All Possible Worlds?
Rob and Greg dive into how the upcoming election could dramatically change the real estate landscape. They place bets on election outcomes and discuss potential new regulations affecting agents and consumers. Concerns over a recent antitrust settlement are raised, particularly about its benefits to attorneys rather than buyers. The conversation shifts to the ethics of agent behavior and the importance of transparency in practices, hinting at a future where changes might restore consumer trust.

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Oct 30, 2024 • 58min
Endless Opportunities with Jack Miller of T360
In this discussion, Jack Miller, CEO of T360 and a key figure in real estate technology, shares insights from the newly released Opportunity Report. He highlights how real estate leaders can harness current market challenges as opportunities. Jack also addresses the evolving role of MLS amid regulatory pressures, stressing the need for increased transparency. He explores potential restructuring of industry associations to provide better value and encourages innovation during challenging times for the sector.

Oct 23, 2024 • 53min
Canned Spam
Delve into the world of disaster preparedness and self-reliance in a captivating discussion. Discover the art of 'bugging in' and the importance of community support during emergencies. Learn practical tips for securing essential supplies, like food and water, and the value of basic medical skills. The hosts share humor and relatable insights while contrasting urban and suburban preparedness strategies. They also touch on responsible gun ownership and the significance of physical fitness in crisis situations, making this a must-listen for anyone curious about survival.

Oct 17, 2024 • 1h 2min
The Industry Needs To Stop Fronting
The hosts tackle the obsession with CCP and the misinformation spread by industry leaders. They critique the dynamic between real estate agents and brokers amidst competition. A deep dive into the NAR and MLS reveals the importance of transparency and strategic planning. The conversation highlights the role of storytelling in effective communication. They urge professionals to confront industry challenges and reevaluate affiliations with NAR. Finally, the need for unity and constructive dialogues is emphasized to combat misinformation.

Oct 9, 2024 • 48min
Whadup with dat PDAP?
The hosts delve into the complexities of MLS data ownership, revealing that opinions on who owns this data vary widely. They discuss the recent shift towards private MLS ownership and its significant implications. Community resilience is highlighted, especially in the wake of disasters affecting the South. Rob and Greg provide insights on brokers' rights regarding data access under the Participant Data Access Policy. This thought-provoking conversation raises crucial questions about transparency and the evolving landscape of real estate data.

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Oct 2, 2024 • 59min
Tales from the Road
The hosts dive into their recent adventures and the challenges of juggling industry events with personal lives. They celebrate personal wins, like a heartfelt story about an award-winning sister. Highlights from the Blueprint conference and insights from CMLS 2024 in Seattle spark discussions on real estate dynamics and the evolving MLS landscape. Trends in prop tech and AI’s impact on the industry are explored, questioning the authenticity of new technologies. The hosts emphasize the need for transparency amid changing data ownership policies.

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Sep 20, 2024 • 1h 3min
CCP Musings
The podcast dives into the latest on the Clear Cooperation Policy and its ongoing impact on the real estate market. The hosts dissect the challenges within the Multiple Listing Service (MLS) system, touching on issues faced by smaller associations and the evolving landscape of listings. They highlight the delicate balance between data sharing and privacy concerns, emphasizing the need for transparency. With potential live shows on the horizon, there's a palpable excitement for the future of real estate collaboration.

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Sep 11, 2024 • 1h 4min
Reading the tea leaves too early and what may be coming next
Josh Sitzer, a key player in the new 'a la carte' brokerage Landian, dives deep into the evolving landscape of real estate. He discusses innovative business models and the skepticism surrounding AI-driven brokerages. The conversation touches on how technology influences trust and commission structures, with insights into the shifting perceptions of value. Additionally, the hosts explore parallels between online dating and real estate, highlighting the importance of maintaining authenticity in both fields.


