
Intercom on Product: Building Software in an AI-first World
Discover the latest insights from Intercom Co-founder and Chief Strategy Officer Des Traynor, Chief Product Officer Paul Adams, and other Intercom product leaders as they share their latest thoughts on building software in an AI-first world.
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Mar 6, 2025 • 27min
Designing for Clarity
Pranava Tandra, a Senior Product Designer at Intercom, discusses the art of redesigning information architecture to enhance user clarity amidst rapid product changes. She shares her experience navigating the complexities of user feedback, AI integration, and the need for seamless navigation. Tandra emphasizes balancing depth with simplicity and how to effectively structure features using progressive disclosure. Alongside Michelle Fitzpatrick, they delve into the potential pitfalls of design decisions and the significance of aligning team visions with user perspectives.

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Feb 13, 2025 • 47min
DeepSeek, Agents, and the Future of AI with Benedict Evans
In this engaging conversation, tech analyst Benedict Evans dives into the rapid rise of DeepSeek and what the decreasing costs of AI models mean for businesses. He discusses the debate between deterministic and probabilistic AI, urging companies to adapt in a volatile landscape. Evans also touches on the implications of running powerful AI models on personal devices, and the evolving role of AI in customer service. With a focus on navigating an unpredictable future, this talk is a must-listen for product builders and tech enthusiasts alike.

Dec 19, 2024 • 46min
Intercom on Product: How we became an AI-first company
Explore how AI is revolutionizing software development and reshaping customer service. The conversation dives into transforming legacy practices into AI-native businesses, addressing the unpredictability of AI technologies. Discover the lessons learned from major tech companies and the necessity for adaptation in an era of rapid innovation. With insights on integrating AI into customer support, the discussion encourages a fresh perspective on leveraging AI while avoiding the pitfalls of outdated practices. Embrace the future with confidence!

Dec 5, 2024 • 37min
Mastering SaaS metrics with Equals CEO Bobby Pinero
Bobby Pinero, Co-founder and CEO of Equals, shares his journey from finance expert to tech innovator, focused on enhancing SaaS metrics analysis. He discusses vital metrics for success and common pitfalls founders face, emphasizing the need for customized measurements. Bobby highlights the importance of storytelling in presenting data, advocating for narratives that engage and inform stakeholders. He also shares insights on achieving product-market fit and creating tools that balance user familiarity with innovation.

Nov 14, 2024 • 26min
Beyond the AI hype: Understanding technological transformation with Benedict Evans
In this discussion, renowned industry analyst Benedict Evans delves into the significant impact of AI on customer service. He examines the evolving landscape of workplace technology, highlighting how advancements from mainframes to AI shape job roles and company culture. Evans also tackles the challenges of AI accuracy in customer interactions, referencing a notable court case involving a chatbot. Ultimately, he underscores the importance of responsible AI integration to enhance efficiency while navigating unforeseen shifts in various industries.

Nov 1, 2024 • 20min
Off Script: Imagining the next era of customer service
Eoghan McCabe, CEO of Intercom, explores the upcoming revolution in customer service driven by AI. He discusses how AI technologies will dramatically enhance support interactions, improving both speed and quality. McCabe emphasizes the collaboration between humans and AI, highlighting the importance of empathy as traditional methods evolve. He predicts a future where bots converse with bots, and AI begins to outstrip human expertise, marking the start of a transformative era in customer service.

Oct 23, 2024 • 26min
This is Getting Real with Des Traynor
Exploring the rapid evolution of AI, the discussion emphasizes how this technology has shifted from potential to an unavoidable reality. The impact of the pandemic on the tech industry leads to innovative experimentation and a blend of whimsical and practical AI applications. Personal stories illustrate the transition from confusion to meaningful real-world implementations. Drawing parallels between AI and the dawn of electricity, the conversation highlights the transformative potential in customer service and the need for adaptation in the workforce.

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Aug 29, 2024 • 57min
Start Good Trouble: Finding product-market fit, founder-led marketing, and getting into YC
Enzo Avigo, co-founder and CEO of June, a B2B SaaS analytics platform, shares his entrepreneurial journey. He emphasizes the importance of product-market fit and navigating the Y Combinator experience for early-stage startups. Enzo reveals insights into founder-led marketing, highlighting the value of personal branding and authentic user connections. He discusses challenges in data management for product insights and effective time management strategies for CEOs. This conversation is a treasure trove for aspiring entrepreneurs and product leaders!

Jul 11, 2024 • 25min
Off Script: Designing with AI
Emmet Connolly, VP of Product Design at Intercom, discusses the impact of AI on software design and development. Topics include simplifying workflows, custom user interfaces, and emphasizing creativity in the design process.

Jun 21, 2024 • 27min
Off Script: Reinventing customer service with AI
Fergal Reid, VP of AI at Intercom, discusses the impact and evolution of AI in customer service, specifically focusing on large language models like GPD. He highlights the potential of AI in reshaping customer support and emphasizes disciplined development for high-quality AI products.
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