
REWORK
A podcast by 37signals about the better way to work and run your business. The REWORK podcast features the co-founders of 37signals (the makers of Basecamp and HEY), Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson sharing their unique perspective on business and entrepreneurship along with host Kimberly Rhodes.
Latest episodes

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Nov 1, 2023 • 17min
The F*#k No Feature
Discover the 'Fuck No' feature in HEY, an unconventional email management tool. Learn about the decline of Easter eggs in software and the benefits of adding a touch of humor to work. Explore the rapid implementation of the feature and the importance of not overthinking product decisions. Find out how a small team added the feature quickly and efficiently. Uncover the significance of incorporating fun and quick changes into the workplace.

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Oct 25, 2023 • 29min
Build an Audience
Host Kimberly Rhodes chats with the Underdog Challenge winner and discusses unconventional strategies for small businesses. Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson join the conversation and emphasize building an audience through authentic content, avoiding content marketing BS, and having 'skin in the game' in content creation.

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Oct 18, 2023 • 20min
Inspiration is Perishable
Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson, co-founders of 37signals, discuss the fleeting nature of inspiration and offer advice on how to make the most of it. They compare inspiration to rocket fuel, emphasize the importance of acting quickly, and share insights on team motivation and their 20+ year working relationship. They also provide tips on avoiding distractions and suffocating inspiration at the start of new projects.

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Oct 11, 2023 • 21min
You Don't Create a Culture
Learn the importance of company culture beyond buzzwords. Discover how to shape and demonstrate culture through actions. Understand the challenges of creating a different culture in the tech industry. Explore hiring for cultural fit and evaluating employee progress. Get tips and strategies for changing company culture.

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Oct 4, 2023 • 31min
Hiring Senior Leaders, Getting Started with Six-Week Cycles, and Other Listener Questions
Host Kimberly Rhodes interviews Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson, co-founders of 37signals, as they share insights on their unconventional hiring process for a COO and the challenges of adding a third person to their team. They also discuss the benefits of starting projects with six-week cycles and the importance of shorter cycles and gut-based decisions in business development.

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Sep 27, 2023 • 33min
37signals Introduces ONCE
Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson, co-founders of 37signals, introduce ONCE - a pay-once model to challenge software subscriptions. They discuss the shift from SaaS to product ownership, the distinction between product and service, and the concerns of data ownership. They also share the story of Basecamp in the White House and explain how ONCE will change the software landscape. The podcast explores the desire for control and ownership among users, transparency in software, and the principles behind their new product.

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Sep 20, 2023 • 23min
Shape Up Principle: Decide When to Stop
The hosts discuss the importance of shipping on time without sacrificing quality. They emphasize the need to accurately define must-have versus nice-to-have features. Constraints and budgets can streamline the process and result in better software. Setting strict deadlines and being willing to cut features is crucial. The podcast explores handling unfinished features and determining when a product development process is complete.

Sep 13, 2023 • 26min
TypeScript Drama and Open Source Opinions
Co-founders of 37signals, David Heinemeier Hansson and Jason Fried, discuss the recent controversy surrounding their decision to no longer use TypeScript in Turbo 8. They debate dynamically typed vs statically typed languages, emphasize the inconsequential nature of these debates, and reflect on the importance of team dynamics and diversity in programming. They also explore the negative impact of online controversies on open source contributions and emphasize the need to stay focused on work amidst the drama.

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Sep 6, 2023 • 25min
Shape Up Principle: The Betting Table
Uncover the secrets of the 'betting table', where decisions are made for the next product development cycle. Learn about the refining process, passionate viewpoints, and avoiding committee-driven decision-making. Discover what happens to pitches that don't make it and the importance of focusing on current priorities. Explore the assignment of people to projects, balancing workloads and the advantages of asynchronous communication in the work environment.

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Aug 30, 2023 • 27min
Shape Up Principle: Writing a Pitch
In this episode, Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson, co-founders of 37signals, discuss the delicate art of crafting a pitch for product development. They walk listeners through Shape Up's five-point compass for an effective pitch, highlighting the importance of avoiding extremes of over-specification or vague one-liners. They also explore the concept of rabbit holes and the significance of identifying and avoiding them. Additionally, they discuss different types of project pitches and approaches and emphasize the importance of dedicating time for exploration and making informed decisions.
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