Two co-founders discuss one's transition from Apple to Android and PC, exploring challenges with Apple's app store and web applications, comparing Microsoft's open source approach, and advocating for platform diversity and novel laptop options.
David switched from Apple to Android due to Apple's restrictions on PWAs, highlighting the importance of platform diversity within companies.
Exploring PC alternatives showcased advancements in hardware technology, emphasizing the benefits of trying new devices for fresh perspectives.
Deep dives
Transition to Windows and Android
After two decades of using Mac and iPhone, David switched to using Windows and Android as his primary devices due to Apple's handling of the App Store and its limitations on Progressive Web Applications (PWAs). This change was prompted by Apple's decision to restrict PWAs on iPhones, leading David to seek a more versatile and open platform for his work and personal use.
Impact of Platform Diversity
David's transition highlighted the importance of platform diversity within a company, revealing gaps in how products were optimized for Windows users at Basecamp. Embracing a range of platforms beyond Mac and iOS, especially for web developers, ensures that products cater to a wider audience and are designed for optimal functionality across various devices.
Exploring PC and Android Alternatives
David's exploration of PC alternatives like the Framework laptop and the Samsung Galaxy Book showcased the advancements in hardware and display technology that rival Apple's offerings. His willingness to experiment with different devices emphasized the benefits of trying new technologies to break out of comfort zones and gain fresh perspectives.
David Heinemeier Hansson recently revealed that he's making the switch from Apple to Android and trading in his Mac for a PC. In this week's episode, cofounders of 37signals Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson discuss the shift in direction, the events that led to the change of platform, and what the company was missing by being focused on the Apple ecosystem.
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