
Stacking Growth | The B2B Marketing Podcast
Hosted by Refine Labs, this podcasts is for marketers, by marketers.
Whether you're new or seasoned , we want to help you refine your strategies, find meaningful takeaways, and hear real, honest stories of marketers who've been able to make waves for the industry. Combining purposeful tactics and strategies across multiple areas is what it means to Stack Growth - let's help build each other up.
Latest episodes

Jul 15, 2024 • 45min
Expert Session: Scaling a Demand Engine, with Alice de Courcy
Marketing strategist Alice de Courcy discusses the shift from lead gen to demand gen strategy, focusing on revenue models and aligning with organizational targets. The conversation also covers metrics, KPIs for executive alignment, and practical aspects of transitioning strategies without overwhelming the organization.

Jul 10, 2024 • 13min
Snacks 20: Building a Unique Paid Search Strategy
Our host, Steph Crugnola, is joined this week by Ryan Olestro, Senior Performance Marketing Manager, to talk about Paid Search Audits.
In this episode they talk about how to craft your headlines and images to stand out, how to effectively manage budget, and how to balance other programs to make the most of your paid search.
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Jul 8, 2024 • 47min
Expert Session: Leveraging Social and Community to Create Demand
Dave Gerhadt from Exit Five shares insights on leveraging social and community for demand creation in B2B. Topics include community building, influencer partnerships, and LinkedIn algorithm changes. Practical tips for digital strategies and the importance of authentic engagement are discussed.

Jul 3, 2024 • 13min
Snacks 19: Paid Search Audit - Results, Insights, Next Steps
Ryan Olestro, Senior Performance Marketing Manager, joins Steph Crugnola to discuss Paid Search Audits. They cover typical audit results, insights, and next steps to ensure clean and efficient data. Topics include optimizing bid strategies, audience targeting, and leveraging competitor insights for paid search tactics.

Jun 26, 2024 • 14min
Snacks 18: Running a Paid Search Audit
Ryan Olestro, a Senior Performance Marketing Manager, joins Steph Crugnola to discuss the foundations of a paid search audit, steps in the process, and key stakeholders' involvement. They highlight optimizing conversion points, refining keywords, and structuring campaigns for targeted results.

Jun 24, 2024 • 33min
The Only Constant Is Change | Megan Bowen on the Marketing, Demystified Podcast
Marketing expert Megan Bowen discusses the shift from lead gen to demand gen for B2B SaaS companies, emphasizing data-driven decision-making and aligning strategies with business goals. The podcast explores the challenges of adapting marketing tactics, defining qualified leads, and balancing long-term brand building with short-term revenue generation.

Jun 20, 2024 • 8min
Snacks 17: Video Content Editing & Distribution
Our host, Steph Crugnola, is joined this week by Miles Campbell, our man behind the camera who is jumping out in front just for y'all!
In this episode they talk about editing and distribution - how can you communicate with your editing team (or learn the tools yourself!) to follow through with your initial goals and vision. Also, once you have a final episode and many short clips to repurpose, how do you get them to your audience?
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Jun 17, 2024 • 57min
The evolution of buyer behavior and the key pillars of a modern demand gen strategy | Megan Bowen at Demand Conf 2024 (by Skale)
Marketing expert Megan Bowen discusses the evolution of buyer behavior, emphasizing quality over quantity in demand gen strategies. She highlights high-intent sources, demand creation, capture, and conversion pillars, and the importance of clear CTAs and personalized messaging for successful campaigns.

Jun 12, 2024 • 10min
Snacks 16: Technology & Tools For Video Content
Our host, Steph Crugnola, is joined this week by Miles Campbell, our man behind the camera who is jumping out in front just for y'all!
In this episode they talk about tech - how can you set up your space to capture the best video and audio quality for your experience level and budget?
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Jun 10, 2024 • 44min
On Alignment | Megan Bowen with Max Maurier
On today’s episode of Stacking Growth, Megan Bowen hosts Max Maurier, VP of Growth Marketing at Trellix, to talk about alignment. The central theme is the evolving necessity for marketing alignment beyond the traditional sales focus, especially emphasizing financial alignment. Max brings a fresh perspective to the table, highlighting the importance of aligning marketing with finance to understand how they measure success, which can often differ from what sales wants.
Max shares insights from his extensive career, revealing that true alignment is multifaceted and involves understanding current state models, goals, and definitions before suggesting changes. He emphasizes the critical nature of building a business case rooted in financial metrics to achieve buy-in across various organizational levels. This episode is a must-listen for B2B marketers looking to shift their alignment strategies to include financial goals and overcome common challenges related to data quality and cross-functional collaboration.
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