

Stacking Growth | The B2B Marketing Podcast
Refine Labs
Hosted by Refine Labs, this podcasts is for marketers, by marketers.
Whether you're new or seasoned , we want to help you refine your strategies, find meaningful takeaways, and hear real, honest stories of marketers who've been able to make waves for the industry. Combining purposeful tactics and strategies across multiple areas is what it means to Stack Growth - let's help build each other up.
Whether you're new or seasoned , we want to help you refine your strategies, find meaningful takeaways, and hear real, honest stories of marketers who've been able to make waves for the industry. Combining purposeful tactics and strategies across multiple areas is what it means to Stack Growth - let's help build each other up.
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Apr 29, 2025 • 56min
Paid Social Playbook: LinkedIn Ads | May B2B Roundtable
Evan Hughes and Ciara Hopkins host Libby Schell to discuss the 2025 playbook for Paid Social and LinkedIn ads. They explore the robust targeting capabilities of LinkedIn, revealing how businesses can harness this platform to maximize brand awareness and demand generation, but also advise against common missteps when approaching this expensive platform.Ensuring effective B2B marketing involves understanding and leveraging LinkedIn as a powerful tool for precise targeting and audience engagement. The discussion covers essential strategies like audience segmentation through job titles and functions, optimizing campaign objectives for different outcomes, and the impact of localization on ad performance. Libby shares her decade-long expertise in platform evolution, advising on the merits of Reach vs. Engagement campaigns, and emphasizing the importance of dynamic UTM parameters for measuring success.As the conversation unfolds, Evan, Ciara, and Libby shed light on using advanced LinkedIn features like revenue attribution reporting and the company engagement tab. They dig into optimizing advertising spend and understanding the critical metrics that matter most for campaign success. Dive into this illuminating session to grasp comprehensive, actionable insights that can transform your approach to LinkedIn advertising.Episode topics: #marketing, #leadgen, #demandgeneration, #sales, #B2BSaaS, #digitalmarketing #ads #paidads #googleads #paidsearch #paidsocial______Subscribe to Stacking Growth on Spotify and YouTubeLearn More About Refine LabsSign Up For Our NewsletterConnect with the guests:Ciara HopkinsLibby SchellConnect with the hosts:Evan HughesMegan Bowen

Apr 25, 2025 • 4min
What Are Your Burning Marketing Questions? | 25 April Newsletter Companion
Welcome to a weekly check-in where I (Steph Crugnola) take the tips we drop in the Refine Labs weekly newsletter and apply it for our own brand marketing team - stacking them up for our continued evolution and growth. This week we ask: what are your pressing marketing questions that we can answer, and who do you go to when you need an expert?

Apr 22, 2025 • 45min
Growing Into A Demand Gen Role | Steve Voith
Steve Voith, VP of Revenue Marketing at Kyriba, shares his journey from a novice marketer to a demand generation expert with years of insight from in-house roles and agencies like Refine Labs. He discusses the rise of CRM technologies and their impact on lead management. Steve emphasizes the need for adaptability, effective communication, and data-driven decisions in marketing. He also critiques the complexities of attribution models and highlights the importance of peer networks and resources for growth marketers in today's fast-changing landscape.

Apr 18, 2025 • 4min
Who's Got Your Back? | 17 April Newsletter Companion
Welcome to a weekly check-in where I (Steph Crugnola) take the tips we drop in the Refine Labs weekly newsletter and apply it for our own brand marketing team - stacking them up for our continued evolution and growth. This week we ask: What communities are you part of as a marketer that help you connect and get support in this chaos landscape?

Apr 15, 2025 • 41min
How to Make it as a Solopreneur | Garrett Ira
Garrett Ira, founder at Method, joins Evan and Steph to talk about his journey to becoming a Solopreneur - the successes, challenges, and everything in between. Garrett shares his unique experience of coming from an entrepreneurial family, which set the tone for his career in marketing. He talks about his transition from agency work to in-house roles, eventually leading him to launch his own company, Method. Garrett talks about the essential tools and community support structures that have helped him thrive as a solopreneur. The episode also addresses the emotional and strategic aspects of running a marketing-focused business, highlighting Garrett's practical business insights and lessons learned from past experiences. Through an open narrative, Garrett explains the significance of transparency, networking, and mastering the fundamentals. He emphasizes the importance of embracing financial acumen and identifying growth opportunities in the evolving landscape of marketing and business development.Episode topics: #marketing, #leadgen, #demandgeneration, #sales, #B2BSaaS, #digitalmarketing #entrepreneurship #solopreneur #entrepreneur ______Subscribe to Stacking Growth on Spotify and YouTubeLearn More About Refine LabsSign Up For Our NewsletterConnect with the guest:Garrett IraConnect with the hosts:Evan HughesSteph Crugnola

Apr 11, 2025 • 6min
Telling the Story Beyond the Data | 10 April Newsletter Companion
Welcome to a weekly check-in where I (Steph Crugnola) take the tips we drop in the Refine Labs weekly newsletter and apply it for our own brand marketing team - stacking them up for our continued evolution and growth. This week we ask: Does a graph tell the whole story? Probably not. Take a step back and make sure you're showing the bigger picture. Check out Evan Hughes' LinkedIn post that I mention here.

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Apr 8, 2025 • 53min
How to Nail Down Messaging and Positioning | Megan Bowen on Building With Buyers
Megan Bowen, CEO at Refine Labs, leads a demand gen agency focused on growth-stage B2B SaaS companies. She discusses the pivotal role of customer understanding in shaping effective messaging and marketing strategies. Megan dives into how buyer behaviors have evolved and the necessity of adapting approaches. The conversation highlights the importance of integrating AI responsibly and emphasizes foundational business principles over hasty tech adoption. She also shares insights on optimizing paid advertising strategies for startups, underlining that data-driven decisions are key to success.

Apr 4, 2025 • 5min
Niching Down | 3 April Newsletter Companion
This week dives deep into the importance of niching down for effective content creation. Discover a four-step process to identify strengths and market gaps that can enhance online presence. The update of the podcast’s identity features a fresh take on the 'about' section, focusing on authenticity. Plus, get a sneak peek at upcoming content and crucial metrics for reviewing landing pages. It's all about refining strategies and boosting growth!

Apr 1, 2025 • 56min
How to Tame Your Landing Page (And Your Career) | Tas Bober
Tas Bober, Co-Founder of The Scroll Lab, joins Evan Hughes and Steph Crugnola for a discussion focused on finding your niche in your career and on your landing page. Tas starts by talking through her evolution from an aspiring writer to a digital marketing expert, propelled by her early career experiences. Stressing the influence of pivotal mentors and their often brutally honest advice, she walks through the process of finding a specific niche in landing page consultation. Tas candidly shares her insights on staying adaptable, networking's intrinsic value in marketing, and the importance of having a distinct perspective to stand out in a saturated market. Ultimately, her story is a testament to chasing authenticity and passion, serving as motivation for marketers to embrace change and innovation.Episode topics: #marketing, #leadgen, #demandgeneration, #sales, #B2BSaaS, #digitalmarketing #demandcreation #landingpages #writing #ads #niche______Subscribe to Stacking Growth on Spotify and YouTubeLearn More About Refine LabsSign Up For Our NewsletterConnect with the guest:Tas BoberConnect with the hosts:Evan HughesSteph Crugnola

Mar 28, 2025 • 5min
Why Do You Listen to Marketing Podcasts? | 27 March Newsletter Companion
Welcome to a new weekly check-in where I (Steph Crugnola) take the tips we drop in the Refine Labs weekly newsletter and apply it for our own brand marketing team - stacking them up for our continued evolution and growth. This week is all about ABM! Inspired by the recent B2B Marketing Roundtable, we sent out and are testing a template to narrow down ABM audience tiers, trying to solve for this audience's pain points, and focusing our podcast messaging.


