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Mar 10, 2023 • 44min
Episode 261: Storytelling in Marketing with Rebecca L. Weber
How can storytelling help us achieve marketing goals? Our guest today is Rebecca L. Weber, a journalist and writing coach. You’ll learn how to use stories in different situations, why you should keep an idea bank, tips for overcoming the anxiety over writing, and more.Podcast feed: subscribe to https://feeds.simplecast.com/4MvgQ73R in your favorite podcast app, and follow us on iTunes, Stitcher, or Google Podcasts.Show NotesThe Writing Coach Podcast with Rebecca L. WeberThe Hero’s Journey — a book by Joseph CampbellAhrefs BlogArpit Choudhury of astorikOn My Bookshelf: Essential books for writersThis show is brought to you by Userlist — an email automation platform for SaaS companies. Onboard, engage, and nurture your customers, as well as marketing leads. To follow the best practices, download our free printable email planning worksheets at userlist.com/worksheets.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.

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Mar 3, 2023 • 1h 5min
BDTP. Software Pricing Design with Chris Mele
Today we have another episode of Better Done Than Perfect. Listen in as we talk to Chris Mele, the managing partner at Software Pricing Partners. You'll learn what happens behind-the-scenes of enterprise pricing, what value-based selling really is, the problem with pricing tiers, and more.Please head over to the episode page for the detailed recap and key takeaways.Show notesSoftware Pricing PartnersThe three worst B2B SaaS pricing errors – and how to avoid themThanks for listening! If you found the episode useful, please spread the word about this new show on Twitter mentioning @userlist, or leave us a review on iTunes.SponsorThis show is brought to you by Userlist — an email automation platform for SaaS companies. Onboard, engage, and nurture your customers, as well as marketing leads. To follow the best practices, download our free printable email planning worksheets at userlist.com/worksheets.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.

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Feb 27, 2023 • 1h 1min
Episode 260: Managing the Design Process with Paul Boag
There’s so much more to the design craft than just designing. How can you work harmoniously with stakeholders in a project? Our guest today is Paul Boag, a CRO expert. You’ll learn how to involve clients in the design process, how to communicate your design to different stakeholders, how to deal with committees, and more.Podcast feed: subscribe to https://feeds.simplecast.com/4MvgQ73R in your favorite podcast app, and follow us on iTunes, Stitcher, or Google Podcasts.Show NotesBoagworld — Paul’s consultancyEpisode 257: White-hat CRO with Paul BoagHow to Test Design Direction in 8 StepsConfirmation Bias in UXAttention InsightHow to Get Clients and Colleagues to Consider User AttentionHow to End the Pain of Shifting Project PrioritiesFrontend Masters: Mastering the Design ProcessGet a free copy of Paul’s bookThis show is brought to you by Userlist — an email automation platform for SaaS companies. It matches the complexity of your customer data, including many-to-many relationships between users and companies. Book your demo call today at userlist.com.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.

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Feb 17, 2023 • 52min
BDTP. Uncovering Customer Insights Using JTBD with Aggelos Mouzakitis
Today we have another episode of Better Done Than Perfect. Listen in as we talk to Aggelos Mouzakitis, a retention-focused B2B SaaS head of growth. You'll learn about the main metric that proves product-market fit, how they used customer segmentation in the process, how to improve your JTBD interviews, and more.Please head over to the episode page for the detailed recap and key takeaways.Show notesheadofgrowth.io — Aggelos’ consultancyWhereby — the case study we’re talking aboutWhat is Jobs to be Done (JTBD)?UI Breakfast Episode 254: Learning to Build with Bob MoestaDemand-Side Sales 101 — a book by Bob MoestaClayton ChristensenSee Aggelos’ service for B2B SaaS teamsConnect with Aggelos on LinkedInThanks for listening! If you found the episode useful, please spread the word about this new show on Twitter mentioning @userlist, or leave us a review on iTunes.SponsorThis show is brought to you by Userlist — an email automation platform for SaaS companies. It matches the complexity of your customer data, including many-to-many relationships between users and companies. Book your demo call today at userlist.com.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.

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Feb 10, 2023 • 38min
Episode 259: Designing Services vs Products with Justin Zalewski
How can services improve and expand our product experience? Our guest today is Justin Zalewski, director of product design and strategy at Studio Science. You’ll learn their framework for figuring out customer pains, how to establish the balance between self-serve and done for you, how to test your design service prototype, and more.Podcast feed: subscribe to https://feeds.simplecast.com/4MvgQ73R in your favorite podcast app, and follow us on iTunes, Stitcher, or Google Podcasts.Show NotesStudio Science — Justin’s place of workEpisode 254: Learning to Build with Bob MoestaDemand-side Sales 101 — a book by Bob Moesta and Greg EngleStudio Science’s Service BlueprintThe Service Design NetworkGood Services — a book by Lou DowneCheck out Justin’s websiteConnect with Justin on LinkedInThis show is brought to you by Userlist — an email automation platform for SaaS companies. Onboard, engage, and nurture your customers, as well as marketing leads. To follow the best practices, download our free printable email planning worksheets at userlist.com/worksheets.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.

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Feb 3, 2023 • 37min
BDTP. SaaS Metrics from $0 to $100M MRR with Sid Jain
Today we have another episode of Better Done Than Perfect. Listen in as we talk to Sid Jain, senior research analyst at ChartMogul. You'll learn about the two overarching categories of metrics, what high and low frequency metrics are, why you should use segmentation and cohorts when analyzing data, and more.Please head over to the episode page for the detailed recap and key takeaways.Show notesChartMogul – Sid’s place of workGitLab KPIJamin BallSaaS Metrics that matter to InvestorsThe SaaS Metrics that MatterSaaStrFollow Sid on Twitter and LinkedInThanks for listening! If you found the episode useful, please spread the word about this new show on Twitter mentioning @userlist, or leave us a review on iTunes.SponsorThis show is brought to you by Userlist — an email automation platform for SaaS companies. Onboard, engage, and nurture your customers, as well as marketing leads. To follow the best practices, download our free printable email planning worksheets at userlist.com/worksheets.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.

Jan 27, 2023 • 32min
Episode 258: Data-driven Design Systems with Berk Çebi
How can you measure the success of your design system? Our guest today is Berk Çebi, co-founder and Chief Product Officer at Zeplin. You’ll learn what a design system is, how their customer interviews led to a new product, when you should start investing in design documentation, and more.Podcast feed: subscribe to https://feeds.simplecast.com/4MvgQ73R in your favorite podcast app, and follow us on iTunes, Stitcher, or Google Podcasts.Show NotesZeplin — Berk’s productOmlet.dev — their new tool for measuring the success of your design systemAtlassian Design SystemWashington Post Design SystemEpisode 26: Bridging the Gap Between Designers and Developers with Roger DudlerFrontify, Zeroheight — tools for documenting design systemsData-informed Design Systems — a talk by Jan Toman of ProductboardSegment’s resourcesFollow Berk on TwitterThis show is brought to you by Userlist — an email automation platform for SaaS companies. It matches the complexity of your customer data, including many-to-many relationships between users and companies. Book your demo call today at userlist.com.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.

Jan 20, 2023 • 33min
BDTP. Data Activation for SaaS with David Sepulveda
Today we have another episode of Better Done Than Perfect. Listen in as we talk to David Sepulveda, Head of Data at Kumospace. You'll learn why data analysts need to work closely with research and product teams, how to distinguish correlation from causation, how much data you need to track, and more.Please head over to the episode page for the detailed recap and key takeaways.Show notesKumospace – David’s place of workdbt logicThe cupcake approach by IntercomTowards Data ScienceSF PythonFollow David on LinkedIn and TwitterThanks for listening! If you found the episode useful, please spread the word about this new show on Twitter mentioning @userlist, or leave us a review on iTunes.SponsorThis show is brought to you by Userlist — an email automation platform for SaaS companies. It matches the complexity of your customer data, including many-to-many relationships between users and companies. Book your demo call today at userlist.com.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.

Jan 13, 2023 • 48min
Episode 257: White-hat CRO with Paul Boag
Can you improve conversion rates ethically, without deceptive tricks? Our guest today is Paul Boag, a CRO expert. You’ll learn about the negative impacts of using dark patterns, how to promote ethical decisions in your organization, why supporting evidence is so important for designers, and more.Podcast feed: subscribe to https://feeds.simplecast.com/4MvgQ73R in your favorite podcast app, and follow us on iTunes, Stitcher, or Google Podcasts.Show NotesBoagworld — Paul’s website and podcast archivesClick! – Paul’s book on CROAttention Insight, Usability Hub – tools for testing designsPollfish – a survey toolHotjar, Microsoft Clarity – heatmap toolsVWO, Google Optimize – A/B testing toolsBDTP S6E3: Measuring the ROI of Email with Claudiu MurariuGet a free copy of Click!This show is brought to you by Userlist — an email automation platform for SaaS companies. Onboard, engage, and nurture your customers, as well as marketing leads. To follow the best practices, download our free printable email planning worksheets at userlist.com/worksheets.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.

Jan 6, 2023 • 46min
BDTP. Creative SEO for SaaS with Monica Lent
Today we have another episode of Better Done Than Perfect. Listen in as we talk to Monica Lent, founder of Affilimate. You'll learn about the challenges of SEO in the SaaS space, the importance of link building, how you can go beyond classic articles, how to cut costs on content, and more.Please head over to the episode page for the detailed recap and key takeaways.Show notesAffilimate – Monica’s SaaSSanity – Affilimate’s CMS of choiceSEO for B2B SaaS with Pawel GrabowskiFollow Monica on TwitterCheck out Monica’s free course, SEO for DevsThanks for listening! If you found the episode useful, please spread the word about this new show on Twitter mentioning @userlist, or leave us a review on iTunes.SponsorThis show is brought to you by Userlist — an email automation platform for SaaS companies. Onboard, engage, and nurture your customers, as well as marketing leads. To follow the best practices, download our free printable email planning worksheets at userlist.com/worksheets.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.