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Apr 25, 2025 • 50min
BDTP. Marketing Channels vs Programs with Asia Orangio
Today we have another episode of Better Done Than Perfect. Listen in as we talk to Asia Orangio, founder and CEO of DemandMaven. You'll learn about the five growth levers you can pull, why you might be doing OKRs wrong, how to know which marketing programs to double down on, and more.Please head over to the episode page for the detailed recap and key takeaways.Show notesDemandMavenIn Demand Episode 26: What is the SaaS Black Hole?Managing SaaS Growth with Asia OrangioUserlist’s email examples postsSignWell – example of a good SEO programAmplitude, Google Analytics 4, SegMetrics – marketing attribution toolsMetabase – business intelligence toolDovetail, Cognism, Balsamiq, Drift – good marketing program examplesMagicLibrary – ideas for adsProfitWell’s hot sauce campaignFollow Asia on Bluesky and LinkedInThe Work by DemandMaven on SubstackThanks for listening! If you found the episode useful, please spread the word about this new show on Twitter mentioning @userlist, or leave us a review on iTunes.SponsorThis show is brought to you by Userlist — an email automation platform for SaaS companies. It matches the complexity of your customer data, including many-to-many relationships between users and companies. Book your demo call today at userlist.com.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.

Mar 28, 2025 • 33min
Episode 292: Using Tokens in Design Systems with Jan Six
How can tokens help your design and development teams become more efficient? Our guest today is Jan Six, staff product designer at GitHub and co-creator of Tokens Studio. You’ll learn how design components and tokens correlate on a technical level, why adoption is the biggest challenge in design systems, how you can get started with creating your own systems, and more.Podcast feed: subscribe to https://feeds.simplecast.com/4MvgQ73R in your favorite podcast app, and follow us on iTunes, Stitcher, or Google Podcasts.Show NotesTokens StudioNaming Tokens in Design Systems – an article by Nathan CurtisThe Many Faces of Themeable Design Systems – an article by Brad FrostPrimer – GitHub’s design systemVisit Jan’s websiteFollow Jan on BlueskyThis episode is brought to you by Wix Studio — the new web platform for agencies and enterprises. The magic of Wix Studio is its advanced design capabilities which makes website creation efficient and intuitive. Here are a few things you can do:Work in sync with your team on one canvasReuse templates, widgets and sections across sitesCreate a client kit for seamless handoversAnd leverage best-in-class SEO defaults across all your Wix sitesStep into Wix Studio to see more at wix.com/studioInterested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.

Feb 28, 2025 • 39min
BDTP. The Impact Mindset with Connor Joyce
Today we have another episode of Better Done Than Perfect. Listen in as we talk to Connor Joyce, senior user researcher at Microsoft and author of Bridging Intention to Impact. You'll learn why you need to ask if your product is really working, the five success metrics for products, some approaches to collecting behavioral data, and more.Please head over to the episode page for the detailed recap and key takeaways.Show notesBridging Intention to ImpactDesired Outcome LabsFollow Connor on LinkedInThanks for listening! If you found the episode useful, please spread the word about this new show on Twitter mentioning @userlist, or leave us a review on iTunes.SponsorThis show is brought to you by Userlist — an email automation platform for SaaS companies. Onboard, engage, and nurture your customers, as well as marketing leads. To follow the best practices, download our free printable email planning worksheets at userlist.com/worksheets.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.

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Feb 7, 2025 • 36min
Episode 291: Shippable User Research with Alice Lee
Alice Lee, Strategy Director at Work & Co, delves into the realm of digital product strategy and shippable user research. She discusses the art of asking the right questions in product research and shares insights from her work with GoFundMe, revealing user motivations in crowdfunding. Lee emphasizes integrating agile methodologies into research and the significance of collaboration among design and research teams. Hear how shippable research can lead to impactful, incremental improvements in product development and user experience.

Jan 24, 2025 • 30min
BDTP. Bullseye Customer Research with Michael Margolis
Today we have another episode of Better Done Than Perfect. Listen in as we talk to Michael Margolis, UX Research Partner at Google Ventures. You'll learn about their bullseye customer sprint, the difference between an ideal customer profile and the bullseye customer, how to apply prototypes, and more.Please head over to the episode page for the detailed recap and key takeaways.Show notesLearn More Faster – Michael’s bookFollow Michael on LinkedInThanks for listening! If you found the episode useful, please spread the word about this new show on Twitter mentioning @userlist, or leave us a review on iTunes.SponsorThis show is brought to you by Userlist — an email automation platform for SaaS companies. It matches the complexity of your customer data, including many-to-many relationships between users and companies. Book your demo call today at userlist.com.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.

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Jan 10, 2025 • 33min
Episode 290: Creativity in Digital Product Design with John Roescher
John Roescher, founder of Raw Materials, dives into the intersection of creativity and digital design. He shares his unique journey from coding to establishing a design agency. Roescher reveals how creativity can serve as a competitive advantage by solving business challenges and driving innovation. He discusses successful projects like Volta, illustrating the importance of understanding customer insights to create impactful user experiences. The conversation emphasizes redefining design excellence through ongoing creativity and effective team collaboration.

Dec 20, 2024 • 27min
BDTP. Product SEO with David Pasztor
David Pasztor, founder of UX Studio and Ranking Raccoon, shares his journey from designing products to creating SEO tools. He discusses the challenges of link building that led to Ranking Raccoon and how targeted keyword strategies can enhance client engagement. David highlights the importance of concise email marketing for boosting conversions. He also dives into the evolution of their link-building platform, emphasizing niche-targeted content and collaboration between in-house and agency teams to drive success.

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Dec 6, 2024 • 35min
Episode 289: OKRs in Product Development with Jeff Gothelf
In this engaging discussion, Jeff Gothelf, a seasoned coach and author specializing in product development, shares insights on making OKRs more customer-centric. He highlights the importance of qualitative objectives over traditional output metrics and emphasizes aligning organizational goals with customer needs. The conversation also covers cross-functional collaboration in product teams and offers a practical step-by-step guide for implementing OKRs in SaaS environments. Jeff's expertise shines as he navigates the intricate balance between design, product management, and customer satisfaction.

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Nov 22, 2024 • 39min
BDTP. Storytelling in SaaS with Stephen Steers
Stephen Steers, a sales coach and author of "Superpower Storytelling," dives into the art of storytelling in SaaS sales. He shares how well-crafted narratives can simplify complex concepts and enhance client relationships. Discover the importance of focusing on outcomes over traditional success stories and learn techniques for tailoring your sales calls with relatable anecdotes. Steers also discusses the impacts of AI on business and offers invaluable tips for mastering storytelling to improve engagement and sales effectiveness.

Nov 8, 2024 • 39min
Episode 288: User-centered Decision-making with Jason Giles
Jason Giles, VP of Product Design at UserTesting and a specialist in user-centered decision-making, shares insights on informed product decisions. He discusses the evolution of design culture and management strategies at major tech companies. Giles emphasizes the importance of various user research methods, aligning stakeholders, and the role of user intuition in product development. He also explores balancing aesthetics and functionality to enhance branding and user experience, pointing out that understanding diverse customer perspectives is key to success.
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