
Real Talk: Real Estate Discussions with Andrew Kirsh
Welcome to Real Talk: Real Estate Discussions with Andrew Kirsh. In each episode of Real Talk, Andrew interviews industry leaders. We'll hear their real-time opinions on today's market, their background and unique career highlights, and guidance for newcomers to the industry.
Latest episodes

May 8, 2024 • 39min
Disintermediating the Residential Brokerage Industry with Jack Ryan, CEO of Rex Homes
Jack Ryan, CEO of Rex Homes, discusses disrupting the residential brokerage industry and legal battles with Zillow. He advocates against mandatory homeownership, promotes customer interests, and shares insights on entrepreneurship in real estate.

Apr 24, 2024 • 43min
Creating Public/Private Partnerships in Affordable Housing with Adam Siegman and Jennifer Keith, Co-Founders of Ethos Real Estate
In this episode of Real Talk, I speak with Adam Siegman and Jennifer Keith, Co-Founders of Ethos Real Estate, a trusted partner to public agencies and communities seeking to address their housing needs, with a mission to create positive change and a new narrative for residents, communities and the housing system. Read about Adam and Jennifer on Ethos' website: https://www.ethos-re.com/about
Tune in as we discuss:
* How to address the infinite demand of housing for the “missing middle”
* Why Ethos has a competitive advantage in buying market rate housing and turning them into affordable housing
* How Developers are tasked by the government to solve many societal challenges
Key moments:
0:31 – Intro
03:06 – About Ethos Real Estate
09:40 - Ethos’ competitive advantage in affordable housing
14:11 - Joint venture model vs syndication for affordable housing transactions
16:10 – Jen and Adam’s partnership
22:12 – Future goals
26:21 - Locations for affordable housing
30:02 – What Ethos looks for in a deal
32:34 – Expectations of landlords by city government
36:29 – Competition in the affordable housing market
38:41 - Jen and Adam’s favorite past and upcoming trips
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In each episode of Real Talk: Real Estate Discussions, Andrew Kirsh interviews industry leaders to learn their real-time opinions on today's market, their background and unique career highlights, and guidance for newcomers to the industry.
Don't miss an episode of Real Talk:
* Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3GT1hoM
* Listen on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3OQrd6j
* Listen on Anchor: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/andrew-kirsh2
* Listen on Listen Notes: https://lnns.co/7ICHmPQyXnU
Andrew Kirsh is a founding partner of Sklar Kirsh LLP and is the Chair of the firm’s Real Estate Department. Sklar Kirsh LLP is a boutique law firm providing services in corporate law, real estate, entertainment, bankruptcy, and litigation.
* Connect with Andrew on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewkirsh/
* Connect with Andrew on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/atkirsh
* Visit Andrew's business website: https://www.sklarkirsh.com/professionals/andrew-t-kirsh
* Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sklar-kirsh-llp/
* Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sklarkirsh/

Apr 17, 2024 • 35min
Overview of the Real Estate Market with Mark Gibson, JLL CEO Capital Markets, Americas
Mark Gibson, JLL CEO Capital Markets, Americas, discusses signs of capitulation, institutional market return, and the oversold office market. Topics include interest rate impact, distress deals, coastal market focus, sourcing capital for construction, and preferred equity investments.

Apr 10, 2024 • 53min
My Discussion with Podcast Legend, Chris Powers, of The Fort Podcast and Founder of Fort Capital
In this episode of Real Talk, I speak with podcast legend, Chris Powers, of The Fort Podcast and Founder of Fort Capital.
Chris is a serial entrepreneur with 19 years of real estate development and investment experience. He founded Fort Capital and to date, the company has invested over $2.1B in Class B industrial, commercial, multifamily, student housing, and land development projects throughout the state of Texas and the Sunbelt.
We discuss:
* The current state of the industrial real estate market
* Why he focuses on Class B industrial in the DFW market
* Determining your fly wheel is critical to a company’s success
* Try never to cross your deals
Learn more about Chris Powers:
* Connect with Chris on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrispowersjr/
* Read more about Chris and Fort Capital: https://fortcapitallp.com/who-we-are/
* Check out Chris’ podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-fort-an-entrepreneurship-podcast/id1410549811
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In each episode of Real Talk: Real Estate Discussions, Andrew Kirsh interviews industry leaders to learn their real-time opinions on today's market, their background and unique career highlights, and guidance for newcomers to the industry.
Don't miss an episode of Real Talk:
* Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3GT1hoM
* Listen on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3OQrd6j
* Listen on Anchor: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/andrew-kirsh2
* Listen on Listen Notes: https://lnns.co/7ICHmPQyXnU
Andrew Kirsh is a founding partner of Sklar Kirsh LLP and is the Chair of the firm’s Real Estate Department. Sklar Kirsh LLP is a boutique law firm providing services in corporate law, real estate, entertainment, bankruptcy, and litigation.
* Connect with Andrew on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewkirsh/
* Connect with Andrew on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/atkirsh
* Visit Andrew's business website: https://www.sklarkirsh.com/professionals/andrew-t-kirsh
* Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sklar-kirsh-llp/
* Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sklarkirsh/

Mar 29, 2024 • 38min
Finding Distressed Real Estate Deals with Jonathan Carson, Founder of Stretto
In this episode of Real Talk, I speak with Jonathan Carson, Founder of Stretto.
We discuss:
* How to use bankruptcy offensively to find distressed real estate deals
* Comparing today’s market to GFC
* Where are the distressed deals
Jonathan serves as co-CEO of Stretto, leading the charge in outlining go-to market strategies and tactics geared toward company growth.
* Read more about Jonathan on Stretto's website: https://www.stretto.com/our-experts/jonathan-carson/
* Email: jonathan.carson@stretto.com
* Call: 714.716.1840
* Connect with Jonathan on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathan-carson-83640a3
Key moments:
0:31 – Intro
2:19 – About Stretto
4:14 - Predicting bankruptcy in technology and business
8:47 - Bankruptcy in a post COVID era compared to post recession era
12:53 – Hawthorne Airport bankruptcy and similar opportunities
17:58 – Distressed deal opportunities that are not necessarily bankruptcy
22:54 – Common types of distressed real estate clients and how Stretto assists
26:53 – Transitioning from a big firm to being an entrepreneur
31:24 – Book and media recommendations from Jonathan and Andrew
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In each episode of Real Talk: Real Estate Discussions, Andrew Kirsh interviews industry leaders to learn their real-time opinions on today's market, their background and unique career highlights, and guidance for newcomers to the industry.
Don't miss an episode of Real Talk:
* Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3GT1hoM
* Listen on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3OQrd6j
* Listen on Anchor: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/andrew-kirsh2
* Listen on Listen Notes: https://lnns.co/7ICHmPQyXnU
Andrew Kirsh is a founding partner of Sklar Kirsh LLP and is the Chair of the firm’s Real Estate Department. Sklar Kirsh LLP is a boutique law firm providing services in corporate law, real estate, entertainment, bankruptcy, and litigation.
* Connect with Andrew on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewkirsh/
* Connect with Andrew on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/atkirsh
* Visit Andrew's business website: https://www.sklarkirsh.com/professionals/andrew-t-kirsh
* Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sklar-kirsh-llp/
* Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sklarkirsh/

Mar 20, 2024 • 35min
Deep Dive into Self Storage Investment with Chris Berg
In this episode of Real Talk, I speak with Chris Berg, Head of California Land Acquisitions for Abernathey Holdings.
We discuss:
* Why Self-Storage is at an all time high demand
* Countering cities who want less of self storage
* How and why he transitioned from a successful media career interviewing Presidents and Cabinet Officials to real estate
Key moments:
0:31 - Intro
4:21 – Chris Berg’s college football career
7:56 – About Abernathey Holdings
9:49 – Demand for Self storage
12:36 – Metrics for ideal land candidate for self-storage
14:30 – Dealing with the city opposition to self-storage development
17:46 – Entitlement process
19:40 - Chris Berg’s media career path before Abernathey and how it has impacted his work now
25:30 – Politics and real estate
31:39 – Pivoting industries
Read more about Chris Berg and the rest of the management and advisory team: https://abernatheyholdingco.com/about-us/
Connect with Chris on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisbergreal/
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In each episode of Real Talk: Real Estate Discussions, Andrew Kirsh interviews industry leaders to learn their real-time opinions on today's market, their background and unique career highlights, and guidance for newcomers to the industry.
Don't miss an episode of Real Talk:
* Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3GT1hoM
* Listen on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3OQrd6j
* Listen on Anchor: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/andrew-kirsh2
* Listen on Listen Notes: https://lnns.co/7ICHmPQyXnU
Andrew Kirsh is a founding partner of Sklar Kirsh LLP and is the Chair of the firm’s Real Estate Department. Sklar Kirsh LLP is a boutique law firm providing services in corporate law, real estate, entertainment, bankruptcy, and litigation.
* Connect with Andrew on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewkirsh/
* Connect with Andrew on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/atkirsh
* Visit Andrew's business website: https://www.sklarkirsh.com/professionals/andrew-t-kirsh
* Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sklar-kirsh-llp/
* Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sklarkirsh/

Mar 13, 2024 • 50min
Flying High – A Deep Dive into the Acquisition of an Airplane Hangar at Hawthorne Airport with the Founders of Jofa Capital – Jackson Brissette and Brian Novak
In this episode of Real Talk, I speak with the Founders of Jofa Capital, Jackson Brissette and Brian Novak.
We discuss:
* Why they bought an airplane hangar
* What is the real estate play
* The art of buying real estate out of bankruptcy
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In each episode of Real Talk: Real Estate Discussions, Andrew Kirsh interviews industry leaders to learn their real-time opinions on today's market, their background and unique career highlights, and guidance for newcomers to the industry.
Don't miss an episode of Real Talk:
* Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3GT1hoM
* Listen on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3OQrd6j
* Listen on Anchor: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/andrew-kirsh2
* Listen on Listen Notes: https://lnns.co/7ICHmPQyXnU
Andrew Kirsh is a founding partner of Sklar Kirsh LLP and is the Chair of the firm’s Real Estate Department. Sklar Kirsh LLP is a boutique law firm providing services in corporate law, real estate, entertainment, bankruptcy, and litigation.
* Connect with Andrew on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewkirsh/
* Connect with Andrew on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/atkirsh
* Visit Andrew's business website: https://www.sklarkirsh.com/professionals/andrew-t-kirsh
* Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sklar-kirsh-llp/
* Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sklarkirsh/

Mar 6, 2024 • 46min
The Story Behind the Acquisition of the Aon Center in DTLA with Adam Rubin and Adam Tischer
In this episode of Real Talk, I speak with Adam Rubin and Adam Tischer.
We discuss:
* Having the conviction of purchasing 1.2 million square feet of downtown office in today’s market
* Why they believe Downtown Los Angeles is one of the premier office markets in the country
* Turning office into a hospitality like experience thru amenities and white glove treatment
Adam Rubin, Principal at Carolwood, is responsible for Carolwood’s overall investment strategy and negotiates transactions from contract to closing. Adam handles all financing activities, capital raising and investor reporting on behalf of the firm. Furthermore, he is CEO of L&R Group of Companies, a Los Angeles based real estate & parking conglomerate. Read more about Mr. Rubin and Carolwood: https://www.carolwoodlp.com/aboutus
Adam K. Tischer, Senior Vice President at Colliers, joined the company in January 2011. He will serve as vice president based in Colliers’ DTLA office. He specializes in representing large corporate investment and developer clients in the Downtown Los Angeles market, and has completed commercial real estate transactions totaling approximately $100 million. Read more about Mr. Tischer and Colliers: https://www.colliers.com/en/experts/adam-tischer
Key moments:
00:31 – Intro
03:58 – The opportunity to purchase the Aon Center
05:55– Entering the office market and its challenges
09:17 – The Downtown LA office market
13:06 – The cyclical nature of the downtown market and its current upward trajectory
20:31 – Choosing office over residential conversion
23:27 – Amenitizing office with a hospitality style
30:11 – The barometer for success
32:49 – The draw to downtown
37:01 – Dealing with tenant downsizing
41:33 – Future goals
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In each episode of Real Talk: Real Estate Discussions, Andrew Kirsh interviews industry leaders to learn their real-time opinions on today's market, their background and unique career highlights, and guidance for newcomers to the industry.
Don't miss an episode of Real Talk:
* Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3GT1hoM
* Listen on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3OQrd6j
* Listen on Anchor: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/andrew-kirsh2
* Listen on Listen Notes: https://lnns.co/7ICHmPQyXnU
Andrew Kirsh is a founding partner of Sklar Kirsh LLP and is the Chair of the firm’s Real Estate Department. Sklar Kirsh LLP is a boutique law firm providing services in corporate law, real estate, entertainment, bankruptcy, and litigation.
* Connect with Andrew on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewkirsh/
* Connect with Andrew on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/atkirsh
* Visit Andrew's business website: https://www.sklarkirsh.com/professionals/andrew-t-kirsh
* Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sklar-kirsh-llp/
* Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sklarkirsh/

Feb 23, 2024 • 57min
An Exclusive Conversation with Bob Hart, CEO and Founder of TruAmerica Multifamily
In this episode of Real Talk, I speak with Bob Hart, CEO and Founder of TruAmerica Multifamily. Under Mr. Hart’s leadership, TruAmerica has become one of the most active multifamily investors in the United States. Mr. Hart is responsible for the national expansion of the firm’s value-add investment platform. Thanks to his leadership, TruAmerica has grown to become a Top 25 apartment owner in the United States, according to the National Multifamily Housing Council (NMHC), and is the youngest manager in the NMHC Top 50. As CEO, Mr. Hart also chairs TruAmerica’s Investment Committee.
Tune in as we discuss:
* Building a Nationally Recognized Top 25 Multifamily Owner and Operator of $16B under management with over 60k units
* When he believes transactional volume will come back
* Recommendations to Borrowers with Floating Rate Debt
* The key ingredient to success in the business
Learn more about Bob Hart:
* Connect with Bob on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bob-hart-9a49a167
* Visit TruAmerica's website: https://www.truamerica.com/about/
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In each episode of Real Talk: Real Estate Discussions, Andrew Kirsh interviews industry leaders to learn their real-time opinions on today's market, their background and unique career highlights, and guidance for newcomers to the industry.
Don't miss an episode of Real Talk:
* Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3GT1hoM
* Listen on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3OQrd6j
* Listen on Anchor: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/andrew-kirsh2
* Listen on Listen Notes: https://lnns.co/7ICHmPQyXnU
Andrew Kirsh is a founding partner of Sklar Kirsh LLP and is the Chair of the firm’s Real Estate Department. Sklar Kirsh LLP is a boutique law firm providing services in corporate law, real estate, entertainment, bankruptcy, and litigation.
* Connect with Andrew on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewkirsh/
* Connect with Andrew on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/atkirsh
* Visit Andrew's business website: https://www.sklarkirsh.com/professionals/andrew-t-kirsh
* Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sklar-kirsh-llp/
* Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sklarkirsh/

Feb 9, 2024 • 43min
How to Go from 12 Units to 7,000 Units with Trion Co-Founders, Mitch Paskover and Max Sharkansky
In this episode of Real Talk, I speak with Mitch Paskover and Max Sharkansky, Co-founders and Managing Partners of Trion Properties, a multifamily real estate investment sponsor that buys and renovates multifamily properties, then syndicates those acquisitions to provide high-yielding passive income for accredited investors.
Tune in as we discuss:
* Differences between the GFC and today’s distressed market
* How to effectively negotiate with Lenders today
* Whether to syndicate or get JV equity
* Why they moved from LA to Miami
Learn more about Mitch Paskover and Max Sharkansky on Trion's website: https://trionproperties.com/trion-properties-employees/
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In each episode of Real Talk: Real Estate Discussions, Andrew Kirsh interviews industry leaders to learn their real-time opinions on today's market, their background and unique career highlights, and guidance for newcomers to the industry.
Don't miss an episode of Real Talk:
* Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3GT1hoM
* Listen on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3OQrd6j
* Listen on Anchor: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/andrew-kirsh2
* Listen on Listen Notes: https://lnns.co/7ICHmPQyXnU
Andrew Kirsh is a founding partner of Sklar Kirsh LLP and is the Chair of the firm’s Real Estate Department. Sklar Kirsh LLP is a boutique law firm providing services in corporate law, real estate, entertainment, bankruptcy, and litigation.
* Connect with Andrew on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewkirsh/
* Connect with Andrew on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/atkirsh
* Visit Andrew's business website: https://www.sklarkirsh.com/professionals/andrew-t-kirsh
* Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sklar-kirsh-llp/
* Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sklarkirsh/