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Mar 25, 2025 • 48min

#26 Jean Bonnenfant: Achieve Global Growth | Grow with the flow

Expanding Into new markets? Most SaaS teams get it wrongScaling into multiple markets sounds exciting—until reality hits. We see most SaaS teams rush in without a solid foundation, leading to wasted resources, missed opportunities, and slow adoption. Already feeling the pressure? Come Join us for another podcast episode of Grow with the Flow where Ferdinand Goetzen and Clément Dumont sit down with Jean Bonnenfant, a serial growth leader for companies like Growth Tribe, Trezy, and currently Lleverage. Jean has trained over 5,000 professionals at companies like ING, Philips, and PWC while coaching over 200+ startups. This conversation is packed with hard-learned lessons from the old days, so make sure not to miss out on it! As always we covered a bunch of topics including: ✅ The hard truth about localization – Why native experts make or break your global expansion ✅ What types of companies make the most money – And why “boring” businesses are often the most profitable ✅ A brief introduction to Web3 growth – What’s different, what works, and what doesn’t ✅ The power of qualitative data – Why every growth leader should balance numbers with deep insights and so much more! Let's dive into the episode 👇 --- Useful links: Connect with Jean on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/growth-hacking-speaker/ Check out Lleverage https://www.lleverage.ai/ Follow The Growth Syndicate on LinkedIn / thegrowthsyndicate Subscribe to our Substack for exclusive insights -https://thegrowthsyndicate.substack.com Check our exclusive community for B2B Marketing leaders https://www.thegrowthsyndicate.com/community --- Highlights 02:21 – Introduction to Jean's story 14:01 – Facing the hard truth about localization 20:09 – Building courses for big clients 25:03 – Boring businesses get the most money 29:09 – Jean's experience within Web3 growth 36:44 – Short questions 41:09 – Facepalms and kudos 46:54 – Rapid fire This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thegrowthsyndicate.substack.com
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Mar 6, 2025 • 55min

#25 Ashley Herbert Popa: Mastering Product Marketing | Grow with the Flow

Does your company really understand the role of product marketing? Let's try to find the answer to some of the biggest questions around the topic including: - When should you invest in product marketing? - How does the role evolve as your company scales? - And what separates great product marketers from the rest? Join us for the latest episode of Grow with the Flow, Clément Dumont and Joliene van Grieken sits down with Ashley Herbert Popa, a searial head of Product Marketing for some companies Sendclound, Tellent and Virtuagym. Within the episode we covered various topics including: ✅ The real role of product marketing in B2B SaaS ✅ Kickstarting the product marketing function (even as an early-stage company) ✅ Gathering customer insights & competitive intelligence effectively ✅ Balancing between strategy & execution as a product marketer and most importantly, answering if the product marketing be its own function! If you want to sharpen your go-to-market strategy and build a product marketing function that truly drives impact, this episode is for you! --- Useful links: Connect with Ashley on LinkedIn / https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashley-herbert-popa-561b6930/ Check out Sendcloud https://www.sendcloud.com/ Follow The Growth Syndicate on LinkedIn / thegrowthsyndicate Check our exclusive community for B2B Marketing leaders https://www.thegrowthsyndicate.com/community Episode Highlights: 1:07 – Ashley’s story: From the US to Europe & into product marketing6:47 – What is product marketing, really?7:48 – The role of product marketing in B2B SaaS9:50 – How to build a product marketing function from scratch11:52– Setting boundaries as a product marketer14:22– Gathering customer insights to influence product & GTM17:27– Competitive intelligence: How great product marketers do it20:27 – The role of product marketing in early-stage vs. late-stage companies23:22– Delivering value as a product marketer in early-stage B2B SaaS28:45 – Should product marketing be a standalone function or part of GTM?33:10 – Fixed Q&A: Hard lessons, best practices & hot takes45:45 – Why product marketing & demand gen don’t always mix52:07– Rapid-fire: Product marketing trends, biggest mistakes & the future This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thegrowthsyndicate.substack.com
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Feb 26, 2025 • 55min

#24 Maxim Poulsen: How to Market an Underdog with Maxim Poulsen | Grow with the Flow

Looking for a great underdog story? 👀 In this episode of Grow with the Flow, Ferdinand Goetzen and Clément Dumont sits down with Maxim Poulsen—a growth leader at Contrast who has also built a massive digital presence across multiple channels. If you’re not a big brand, don’t have a huge following, and feel like an underdog in your space—this episode is for you. LinkedIn isn’t just for influencers or established companies. With the right strategy, you can position yourself as a category leader. Inside this episode, we cover: ✅ Pivotal moments in Contrast’s growth journey ✅ A step-by-step guide to building high-performing LinkedIn carousels ✅ How Maxim became a top B2B thought leader and so much more! And so much more! ---- Useful links: - Connect with Maxim on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/maximpoulsen/ - Upgrade your webinar game with Contrast https://www.getcontrast.io/ - Follow The Growth Syndicate on LinkedIn / thegrowthsyndicate - Subscribe to our Substack for exclusive insights https://thegrowthsyndicate.substack.com - Check our exclusive community for B2B Growth professionals https://www.thegrowthsyndicate.com/community Episode Highlights: 01:12 – From underdog to LinkedIn authority 05:12 – The simple strategy to get your team posting 09:12 – Should you hire LinkedIn influencers? 13:12 – The truth about LinkedIn growth timelines 17:12 – How to craft a high-impact 5-slide carousel 22:12 – Tactical hacks vs. long-term marketing strategies27:12 – Will video help underdog brands win on LinkedIn? 30:12 – Maxim’s lessons from leading growth at Contrast 35:12 – Rapid-fire Q&A 45:12 – Facepalms & kudos This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thegrowthsyndicate.substack.com
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Feb 18, 2025 • 54min

#23 Justyna Ciecierska: Building B2B Marketing Waiting Rooms | Grow with the Flow

Does your marketing team still focus solely on generating MQLs?In the latest episode of Grow with the Flow, Joliene van Grieken and Ferdinand Goetzen sits down with Justyna, founder of The Marketing Waiting Room, Growth Mentor, and Lecturer at the Business School of Rotterdam.From leading growth teams to building her own thriving solopreneur business, Justyna has mastered the art of keeping marketing simple and effective. In this episode, we uncover:✅ How to discover your "marketing enemy" and use it to stand out✅ Whether MQLs really tell the full story behind success✅ What exactly is a Marketing Waiting Room✅ How to measure mental availabilityOh, and we had to ask her about her viral take:👉 Does the funnel even exist? If you’re in marketing, growth, or thinking of going solo, this episode is for you!Useful links👇- Connect with Justyna on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/justyna-ciecierska/- Build a waiting room with Justi https://www.marketingwaitingroom.com/- Follow The Growth Syndicate on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/thegrowthsyndicate- Subscribe to our Substack for exclusive insights -https://thegrowthsyndicate.substack.com/- Check our exclusive community for B2B Growth professionals https://www.thegrowthsyndicate.com/communityEpisode Highlights 02:08 – Justyna’s journey: From growth leader to thriving solopreneur06:15 – What to expect when working with Justyna10:15 – Balancing short-term wins and long-term strategy as a marketing leader18:23 – Measuring mental availability in marketing21:02 – Inside Justyna’s thought leadership engine26:15 – The power of making bold brand choices29:15 – How to build a B2B thought leadership engine from scratch32:15 – The role of mentorship in career and business growth34:15 – Best practices for outreach and finding the right mentor36:28 – Fixed Q&A: Controversial opinions, biggest mistakes, and key takeaways49:08 – Breaking down Justyna’s viral LinkedIn post52:12 – Rapid-fire questions: Funnels, new vs. established markets, solopreneurship, and more This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thegrowthsyndicate.substack.com
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Feb 11, 2025 • 1h 9min

#22 Diane Wiredu: Cracking the Code of B2B SaaS Messaging with | Grow with the Flow

Ever struggled to make your B2B SaaS truly stand out? Messaging can make or break your ability to attract, convert, and retain customers. The sad part? Too many companies get it wrong. In this episode of Grow with the Flow, Clément Dumont and Ferdinand Goetzen sits down with Diane Wiredu, founder of Lion Words and one of the top B2B SaaS messaging experts, to break down how companies can achieve message-market fit, sharpen their positioning, and build brands that resonate,As always, we had a ton of fun covering various topics including: ✅ Diane’s journey: From in-house translator to soloprenuership ✅ Why companies struggle to differentiate—and how to fix it ✅ The ROAR framework for clear, compelling messaging ✅ The toughest stakeholder battles and how to win them and so much more! Tune in for a masterclass in messaging—packed with actionable insights for B2B SaaS leaders, founders, and marketers who want to sharpen their brand’s voice. If you enjoy the episode, subscribe, rate, and share—it really helps us grow! ----- Useful links👇 - Connect with Diane on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/dianewiredu/ - Explore Lion Words https://www.lionwords.com/ - Follow The Growth Syndicate on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/thegrowthsyndicate - Subscribe to our Substack for exclusive insights -https://thegrowthsyndicate.substack.com/ - Check our exclusive community for B2B Growth professionals https://www.thegrowthsyndicate.com/community Episode Highlights: 00:00 - Diane's journey into messaging 08:40 - Differentiation in messaging vs. positioning 12:20 - Balancing messaging and positioning 16:50 - The role of stakeholder management in messaging projects 26:30 - The importance of customer research 40:10 - Key messaging mistakes companies make 46:30 - The nuance of headline length in messaging 53:15 - AI's role in crafting messaging 1:01:00 - Diane's perspective on the Jaguar rebrand controversy 1:10:45 - Favorite tools for 2024 1:15:00 - Diane Recommends a Book 1:17:00 - Rapid-fire questions This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thegrowthsyndicate.substack.com
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Jan 29, 2025 • 40min

Can you Actually Generate B2B Demand in 2025? | TGS Internal

Can your marketing team truly create demand?Join us for our first internal podcast with Ferdinand Goetzen, Joliene van Grieken, and Tobias Liebsch, where we dive deep into all things related to demand generation.As always, the team had a blast covering key topics, including:✅ Allocation of resources for effective demand generation✅ The power of "Category Entry Points" to sharpen your content marketing✅ The different types of demand and how to leverage them for B2B growth… and much more!Got burning questions? Let us know and we’ll tackle them in future episodes.Useful links👇Follow The Growth Syndicate on LinkedIn / thegrowthsyndicateCheck our website if you need help with building your growth engine https://www.thegrowthsyndicate.com/ This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thegrowthsyndicate.substack.com
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Jan 21, 2025 • 50min

#21 Vincent Jong: Discovering the Secrets to Product & Sales Alignment

Ever wondered how to bridge the gap between product and sales for explosive growth?In this episode of Grow with the Flow, Ferdinand Goetzen and Clément Dumont sit down with Vincent Jong, a serial entrepreneur, author of Product-Led Sales and CPO at Dealfront.From founding FunnelFox to leading product and growth teams at ZoomInfo and Dealfront, Vincent brings all of the insights you need to scale your PLS motion.In this episode, we also cover topics such as :✅ Why product leaders need a commercial mindset (and vice versa!)✅ The secret to aligning product and sales teams effectively✅ Overcoming common blockers, skill gaps, and internal politics✅ Balancing exceptional product experiences with commercial pressure…and much so more! As always, we shared a “kudos” and a “facepalm” of the week, dove into a popular social post from our guest, and asked some rapid-fire questions. If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe, like, share, and rate wherever you listen — it really helps us grow and get found! Stay tuned for more!Useful links👇 Check out the book Product-led Sales - https://www.amazon.com/Product-Led-Sales-Combining-best-Growth/dp/8409598027 Connect to Vincent on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/vincentjong/ Check out Dealfront - https://www.dealfront.com/ Follow The Growth Syndicate on LinkedIn / thegrowthsyndicate Check our website if you need help with building your growth engine https://www.thegrowthsyndicate.com/ Highlights: 00:00 – Introduction 01:50 – Vincent's Origin Story 08:27 – From CEO to CPO: Transitioning from Founder to Core Team Member 12:28 – Commercial Leaders with a Product Mindset vs. Product Leaders with a Commercial Background 15:01 – Common Traits of Aligned Companies 16:22 – Key Blockers to Product and Sales Alignment 23:53 – Defining Goals at Dealfront 26:03 – The Current State of the Product Function 29:22 – Behind the Scenes of Writing Product-Led Sales 34:57 – Balancing Life as a Product Executive and a Founder 35:52 – Quickfire Q&A 48:39 – Rapid-Fire Questions This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thegrowthsyndicate.substack.com
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Dec 31, 2024 • 38min

#20 Nathan Latka: Lessons from Building Startups and Investing in Bootstrappers

Ever wondered what it's like managing a $145M fund?Join us in the latest episode of Grow with the Flow, where Ferdinand Goetzen and Clément Dumont sit down with Nathan Latka, a serial entrepreneur and founder of @founderpathAs always, we had a blast uncovering Nathan's journey, investment strategies, and, most importantly, what sets great founders apart from the rest.Within this episode, we also covered :✅ Nathan's journey to building wealth✅ The secrets behind Nathan's webinar playbook✅ The power of monumental marketing✅ How to master the art of grabbing attention…and much so more!As always, we shared a “kudos” and a “facepalm” of the week, dove into a popular social post from our guest, and asked some rapid-fire questions.If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe, like, share, and rate wherever you listen — it really helps us grow and get found!Stay tuned for more!Useful links👇Check out Nathan's database with interviews - https://getlatka.com/Connect to Nathan on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/leahtharin/Check out Founderpath - https://founderpath.com/Follow The Growth Syndicate on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/thegrowthsyndicateCheck our website if you need help with building your growth engine https://www.thegrowthsyndicate.com/Subscribe to our Substack for even more content https://thegrowthsyndicate.substack.com/Highlights:0:00:00 – Introduction0:00:31 – Nathan's origin story0:01:52 – How Founderpath secures capital for venture investments0:05:09 – Nathan's investment strategy explained0:06:25 – Common traits of successful companies0:07:31 – Why more founders don’t choose companies like Founderpath0:09:29 – The fastest way to hit $1M ARR0:10:33 – The power of lean SaaS teams0:13:40 – Nathan’s journey to building personal wealth0:17:20 – Nathan Latka's webinar playbook and monumental marketing insights0:19:57 – Strategies to grow your audience0:25:34 – Investing in US vs. EU-based SaaS founders0:27:25 – Where most SaaS startups stumble0:30:07 – Challenges startups face scaling from $0 to $1M ARR0:31:51 – Seamlessly integrating AI into your product0:32:52 – Rapid-fire questions This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thegrowthsyndicate.substack.com
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Dec 17, 2024 • 1h 1min

#019 Leah Tharin: Gary from Sales & Growth (PLG) Ops

Does Gary from sales screw over your company's growth? Join us in the latest episode of Grow with the Flow, where Ferdinand Goetzen and Clement Dumont sit down with Leah Tharin, a serial Growth exec and advisor for companies like Paddle, NorthOne, and Toggl.We had tons of fun learning more about who Leah really is, how she became so good at growth, and why Gary from sales seems to be such a problem for PLG companies out there. Within this episode, we also covered :✅ How to unlock PLG within your enterprise sales motion ✅ Leah's approach to defining team-based goals ✅ Benefits of placing your unfair advantage outside of your product ✅ Growth Ops and optimizing your team for success …and much more! As always, we shared a “kudos” and a “facepalm” of the week, dove into a popular social post from our guest, and asked some rapid-fire questions. If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe, like, share, and rate wherever you listen — it really helps us grow and get found! Stay tuned for more! Useful links👇 Check out Leah's newsletter - https://www.leahtharin.com/ Connect to Leah on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/leahtharin/ Check Product Tea with Leah - https://www.youtube.com/@producteawithleah Follow The Growth Syndicate on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/thegrowthsyndicate Check our website if you need help with building your growth engine https://www.thegrowthsyndicate.com/ Subscribe to our Substack for even more content https://thegrowthsyndicate.substack.com/Highlights: 00:00 – Introduction and setting the vibe03:34 – Leah’s inspiring origin story 08:45 – Exploring the meaning behind the growth function 16:00 – Differentiating your SaaS for a competitive edge 21:00 – The rise of buyer power in the new PLG era 25:00 – Combining PLG with a robust enterprise sales process 31:26 – Who owns growth: Marketing or Product? 38:10 – Leveraging POCs to drive PLG growth 39:30 – Aligning marketing and company-wide goals 45:51 – Challenges of managing high-performance employees 47:37 – Quick-fire questions and insights 49:00 – Kudos and facepalms: Reflecting on wins and lessons52:43 – LinkedIn post spotlight: The solopreneur journey 57:56 – Rapid-fire round: Final thoughts and takeaways #plg #pls #saas #podcast #growth #productledgrowth This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thegrowthsyndicate.substack.com
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Dec 3, 2024 • 1h 2min

#018 Stefan Smulders: Nailing Linkedin Automations

$10M ARR, one pivotal LinkedIn strategy, and countless failures.Stefan Smulders faced the odds, pivoted, and built Expandi.io into a $10M ARR powerhouse.But how can you do it too?Join us in the latest episode of Grow with the Flow, where Ferdinand Goetzen and Clement Dumont sit down with Stefan Smulders, co-founder and Chief Strategy Officer at Expandi.Over the years, Stefan failed with multiple ventures before making a critical pivot that led to the creation of Expandi.io. He shares eye-opening insights from being deep in the LinkedIn trenches.Within this episode, we also covered:✅ Lessons learned from multiple failed startups✅ LinkedIn’s best growth tactics✅ Expanding to the U.S. market as an EU B2B SaaS✅ How Stefan balances health and wealth…and much more!As always, we shared a “kudos” and a “facepalm” of the week, dove into a popular social post from our guest, and asked some rapid-fire questions.If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe, like, share, and rate wherever you listen — it really helps us grow and get found!Stay tuned for more!Useful links👇Check out Expandi - https://expandi.io/Connect to Stefan on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/smuldersstefan/Follow The Growth Syndicate on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/thegrowthsyndicateCheck our website if you need help with building your growth engine https://www.thegrowthsyndicate.com/Subscribe to our Substack for even more content https://thegrowthsyndicate.substack.com/Highlights:00:00 - Stefan's origin story10:16 - How Stefan decided to pivot into Expandi13:40 - Expandi's first version16:24 - Did Stefan provide a framework for using Expandi?17:27 - How Stefan (Expandi) beat the LinkedIn policy game22:22 - LinkedIn best practices31:39 - Expandi’s outbound philosophy32:55 - Expandi's growth strategies37:21 - Taking your European SaaS to the US market42:08 - Stefan as a founder growing outside of Amsterdam44:00 - Challenges of a founder with $10M in ARR48:42 - Stefan's controversial opinion49:50 - Stefan's biggest failure51:00 - Who does Stefan learn the most from?52:00 - Kudos and facepalms55:30 - How Stefan balances health and wealth (LinkedIn post)1:00:33 - Rapid-fire questions#linkedin #bootstrapping #startups #saas This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thegrowthsyndicate.substack.com

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