

Invisible Machines podcast by UX Magazine
Invisible Machines
"The enemy of nonsense in AI" | The #1 podcast about agentic AI
Join great conversations with experts about the intersections between AI, product design, technology and business.
The bestselling authors of Age Of Invisible Machines are joined by other luminaries to continue the conversations that began in their book—the first bestseller about agentic AI. With a newly revised and updated Second Edition that hit the shelves in spring of 2025, Robb Wilson (CEO and Co-Founder of OneReach.ai) and Josh Tyson expand their explorations of disruptive technology with fellow AI insiders, experts, and luminaries working in adjacent realms.
Join great conversations with experts about the intersections between AI, product design, technology and business.
The bestselling authors of Age Of Invisible Machines are joined by other luminaries to continue the conversations that began in their book—the first bestseller about agentic AI. With a newly revised and updated Second Edition that hit the shelves in spring of 2025, Robb Wilson (CEO and Co-Founder of OneReach.ai) and Josh Tyson expand their explorations of disruptive technology with fellow AI insiders, experts, and luminaries working in adjacent realms.
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Aug 17, 2023 • 1h 3min
Tim Wood // Invisible Machines S2E8
Tim Wood, Principal Designer for AI and AI Platforms at Amazon Web Services, discusses conversational AI, anthropomorphism, systemic change, bias in AI, lessons from Kodak's downfall, consciousness in AI, the threat and promise of AI, the design mindset in different industries, and taste and design in creating desirable user experiences.

Aug 10, 2023 • 1h 23min
Charlene Li // Invisible Machines S2E7
Charlene Li, digital transformation expert and bestselling author, joins the podcast to discuss the trajectory of technology over the last 20 years and the need for decision-makers to reframe their expectations. They delve into the explosive power of LLMs in writing and thought leadership, the importance of human guidance in technology development, the convergence of business and technology, the rapid adoption of LLMs and the challenge for leaders, reputation and trust in established companies vs startups, the market for AI tools and the importance of curiosity and experimentation, changing our relationship with failure, transparency and deterministic algorithms in decision-making, the potential of Language of Machines (LOMs) and unbiased data sources, and the fallacy of control and the strength of openness.

Aug 3, 2023 • 1h 22min
Peter Greenberg // Invisible Machines S2E6
Peter Greenberg, Emmy-winning investigative travel journalist, discusses the potential of AI to improve the travel and hospitality industry. They explore the negative consequences of technology and emphasize the importance of conversation. The podcast also touches on the impact of technology on journalism and the use of AI in Airbnb to challenge traditional hotels.

Jul 27, 2023 • 1h 1min
Laura Herman // Invisible Machines S2E5
Laura Herman, guest from the University of Oxford, joins Robb and Josh in a philosophical conversation about art, generative AI, and the impact of technology on creativity. They discuss the role of art in society, the challenges of generative AI, the shift from gatekeepers to algorithmic platforms, and the artistic nature of conversations. This thought-provoking discussion explores the intersection of technology and human creativity.

Jul 20, 2023 • 1h 2min
Dr. Jim Webber // Invisible Machines S2E4
Dr. Jim Webber, Chief Scientist at Neo4j, discusses the convergence of graphDB and large language models (LLMs), highlighting the benefits of graph databases over regular databases. They explore simplifying querying relational databases using Cypher, keeping data up to date with language models, and the potential of graphs as a source of truth. They also discuss challenges with cipher queries and maintaining a digital twin without human intervention.

Jul 14, 2023 • 1h 38min
Dr. Lee Hood & Dr. Nathan Price // Invisible Machines S2E3
Robb and Josh take a deep dive into technology and healthcare with Leroy Hood, MD, PhD (Co-founder and Chief Strategy Officer of ISB) and Nathan Price, PhD (Chief Scientific Officer of Thorne HealthTech), auhtors of The Age of Scientific Wellness. Hood played a pivotal role in the Human Genome Project and he and Price have uncovered the ways that science and technology can move us toward 4P medicine that is predictive, personalized, preventive, and participatory. Together, hosts and guests unlock new opportunities for conversational AI to move us closer to much more effective and personal healthcare.

Jul 5, 2023 • 1h 8min
Jonathan Frankle, Chief Scientist at MosaicML // Invisible Machines S2E2
With MosaicML acquired last week for 1.3 Billion, we rushed to get you an episode we've been working on with Mosaic's Chief Scientist, Jonathan Frankle. It's here and the episode is packed with a lot of practical thinking and perspective on the incredible work they're doing at Mosaic. Robb, Josh and Jonathan Frankle have a fun and useful conversation for anyone who's just wrapping their head around implementing LLMs, or those already deep in the trenches.

Jul 1, 2023 • 1h 13min
Adam Cheyer, Co-Founder, Siri // Invisible Machines S2E1
Inventor, entrepreneur, and researcher Adam Cheyer joins the hosts to discuss the creation and challenges of Siri, including a design debate with Steve Jobs. They explore the evolution of computing interfaces, the importance of emotional intelligence, and the boundaries of technology. A fascinating conversation on conversational AI.

Jun 15, 2023 • 1h 8min
Don Norman, Author and Researcher // Invisible Machines S1E17
For the season one finale, Robb and Josh welcome legendary researcher, professor, and author Don Norman. His book "The Design of Everyday Things" helped define the parameters of human centered design, and his new book "Design for a Better World: Meaningful, Sustainable, Humanity Centered" expands the process to account for the global ecosystem our designs call home. Don shares powerful insights into the ways design and technology continue to shape our lives, including ideas on the fundamental shortcomings of the term "artificial intelligence."
Intro music, "Nitro Reign" by Elias Earl

Jun 9, 2023 • 56min
Rebecca Evanhoe, Author and Conversation Designer // Invisible Machines S1E16
Robb and Josh welcome conversation designer Rebecca Evanhoe for a discussion about the detailed work of creating meaningful conversational experiences. Rebecca is co-author of "Conversations with Things" (Rosenfeld Media) and teaches courses at Pratt Institute on UX writing and conversational design. Here, she shares insights into the nature of writing, the application of technology like ChatGPT, and the powerful instances of co-creation happening all around us.


