
Invisible Machines podcast by UX Magazine
UX Magazine presents the Invisible Machines podcast.
Conversational AI is going everywhere. Join great conversations with experts in a podcast about AI agents, conversational AI and organizational artificial general intelligence (OAGI), covering the intersection of UX, business, technology and design.
Robb Wilson and Josh Tyson, authors of Age Of Invisible Machines, the first bestselling book about the agentic approach to software and conversational AI, envisioned the moment we’re in with ChatGPT and the AI revolution. Join in as they continue their discussion with leading thinkers and doers.
Latest episodes

Apr 15, 2023 • 1h 23min
Guido Baratta, Chief Design Officer for icon incar // Invisible Machines S1E8
Robb and Josh welcome special guest Guido Baratta, Chief Design Officer for icon incar. A lifelong student and teacher of design, Guido shares insights into the world of automotive UX. The three discuss the ways AI will change our relationship to transportation and why cars might soon just be one of many robots in our lives.

Apr 6, 2023 • 45min
Conversational Design in Action // Invisible Machines S1E7
Exploring conversational design with generative AI, personalized ephemeral apps, customer satisfaction with automated systems, struggles of experienced designers, regulating technology for equitable benefits, and the role of experience designers in hyper automation.

Mar 30, 2023 • 57min
Jesse James Garrett, Executive design leadership coach // Invisible Machines S1E6
Robb and Josh welcome special guest Jesse James Garrett, legendary information architect and sought-after executive leadership coach. The three discuss the need for experience design in AI and how to get designers to the table.

Mar 24, 2023 • 51min
AI Needs UX // Invisible Machines S1E5
The podcast discusses the changing nature of experience design with conversational AI, the importance of incorporating AI into UX design, the alliance between designers and developers in AI and UX, risk-taking and collaboration in design, and advice for designers working with AI and UX.

Mar 16, 2023 • 1h 36min
Greg Vert, Deloitte // Invisible Machines S1E4
Robb and Josh welcome special guest Greg Vert, a leader in Deloitte Consulting LLP’s Human Capital practice. Topics include digital transformation at enterprise level, the impact of ChatGPT on AI adoption, and the wisdom of starting automation journeys internally.

Mar 9, 2023 • 26min
High Risk and Lots of Experimentation // Invisible Machines S1E3
Robb and Josh talk about the elevated levels of risk and experimentation required to move hyperautomation forward.

Mar 3, 2023 • 30min
De-Appifying Our Lives with AI // Invisible Machines S1E2
Robb and Josh talk about the ways conversational AI can transcend our app-cluttered professional and personal lives—bringing us closer to technology by obscuring the messiness happening behind the scenes.

Feb 23, 2023 • 23min
Generative AI Won't Kill Creativity // Invisible Machines S1E1
Robb and Josh talk about the ways generative AI and hyperautomation might change the way we think about productivity and our relationship to work.

Dec 5, 2020 • 5min
The Invasive Employee Experience
Microsoft 365’s new workplace analytics joins a handful of invasive surveillance apps, trading trust for a potential boost in productivity.

Nov 25, 2020 • 3min
A Case of Accidental Anthropomorphism
When an old coffee grinder stops working properly, it endears itself to the author by seemingly trying to get itself going again—revving its motor as he continually presses the start button until it gets back up to regular grinding speed. This affords a potent little design lesson: sometimes a product’s shortcomings create opportunities to bond with a user.
In the case of conversational design, a chatbot or intelligent digital worker (IDW) can make overt attempts to solve problems outside its abilities, just to let a customer know that it’s trying its best to help. Even though the IDW can’t deliver the desired outcome, before it passes the interaction on to a human agent, it can create an enduring sense of empathy that will carry forward