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Apr 23, 2024 • 27min

Episode 105: Social Traffic in 2024

It’s no secret that the iOS update in 2021 hurt Meta. In this week’s episode, Jon and Ryan delve into the aftermath of the iOS update. They discuss the challenges of navigating changes in social ad strategies and the evolving role of influencers in social media marketing. Listen to the full episode if you want to learn:How strategies for running and optimizing social ads have changed Why influencers are still a big factor in social adsHow influencers can help smaller or newer brands How social shops are performing Why feeds are important in running social shopsIf you have questions, ideas, or feedback to share, connect with us on LinkedIn. We're Jon MacDonald and Ryan Garrow.
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Apr 9, 2024 • 29min

Episode 104: How to Optimize for Both DTC and Wholesale

There is nothing more frustrating to a business than losing out on a sale because their website was optimized for one audience and, in turn, alienated a whole second subset of shoppers. This can be seen in ecommerce brands that have a direct-to-consumer and wholesale operation. However, the two audiences are on completely different customer journeys, making it difficult to create a digital experience that delivers to both.Jon and Ryan delve into the strategic considerations and practical implementation of website elements to effectively cater to both B2B and B2C audiences. From prioritizing primary audiences to creating tailored customer journeys, they explore the challenges and opportunities of maximizing revenue without alienating either group.Listen to the full episode if you want to learn:Why you need to refer to your data How to tailor messaging, design and user experience for both audiencesHow to prioritize audience segmentationHow to leverage menu navigation and landing pages for both audiencesIf you have questions, ideas, or feedback to share, connect with us on LinkedIn. We're Jon MacDonald and Ryan Garrow.
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Mar 26, 2024 • 32min

Episode 103: How to Find and Utilize the Right Marketing Experts

Jon and Ryan discuss the challenges and importance of wisely selecting and utilizing marketing experts. They cover the pitfalls of deceptive marketing claims and the importance of carefully selecting and evaluating external experts, agencies, or vendors.They also explore the ongoing debate surrounding hiring internal or external marketing experts and teams, providing examples and practical tips for making informed choices that align with your business's needs and resources.Listen to the full episode if you want to learn:How to meticulously select marketing expertsHow to approach the use of AI and automation in marketingWhy you shouldn’t trust marketing collateralHow to find experts that align with your companyHow to make the most of conferences and events If you have questions, ideas, or feedback to share, connect with us on LinkedIn. We're Jon MacDonald and Ryan Garrow. 
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Mar 12, 2024 • 27min

Episode 102: Why You Shouldn’t Neglect the Post-Purchase Phase - Behind the Click Deep Dive

Learn why the post-purchase phase is crucial in e-commerce. Explore customer feedback, psychological principles, and onboarding. Find out how it impacts future orders and get a sneak peek of Jon's upcoming book. Discover strategies for utilizing reviews, handling negative feedback, and enhancing the overall customer experience.
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Feb 27, 2024 • 24min

Episode 101: Is Microsoft Ads Worth Your Time?

Jon and Ryan provide valuable insights into the world of Microsoft Ads. The discussion kicks off with an exploration of recent developments at Microsoft, including the company's rebranding of Bing Ads as Microsoft Ads and its strategic investments in AI. They also delve into the potential and opportunities for advertising on Bing, shedding light on the unique advantages of the platform, such as lower competition and potential arbitrage opportunities.Listen to the full episode if you want to learn:Why companies should consider leveraging Microsoft AdsWhat are some key differences between Microsoft Ads and GoogleWhat strategies to use when running campaigns in Microsoft Ads How Microsoft Ads differentiates itself from other platforms Which other platforms to consider outside of Google and Microsoft AdsIf you have questions, ideas, or feedback to share, connect with us on LinkedIn. We're Jon MacDonald and Ryan Garrow. 
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Feb 13, 2024 • 47min

Episode 100: Our Biggest Lessons From 100 Episodes

Digital experiences are always changing and evolving. So it should come as no surprise that the evolution of AI, automations, and online tools has also shifted some perspectives and progressed certain ways of thinking.In this special episode of Drive and Convert, Jon and Ryan share what lessons they’ve learned in the past four years by revisiting some of the earliest episodes of the show and talking about a few recent ones. Here's a brief look at some of the topics they changed their perspectives on:No to external automation -> Yes to platform automation You shouldn’t benchmark -> Multi-KPI benchmarking can provide great valuePull back on socials -> Platform shops are performing really well  Look at Google Analytics -> Try exploring other toolsTest everything -> Validate your decisionsFind out what else they changed their minds on! If you have questions, ideas, or feedback to share, connect with us on LinkedIn. We're Jon MacDonald and Ryan Garrow. 
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Jan 30, 2024 • 21min

Episode 99: Announcing Behind the Click

Have you ever wondered what goes through your customer’s mind when they make a certain purchase decision?  Well, you’re not alone.In this episode, Jon and Ryan discuss "Behind the Click", Jon’s upcoming book, which focuses on the psychological principles behind each purchase decision. Jon discusses the inspiration for the book, his approach to writing it, and the overview of the content. He also offers insights into how brands can utilize the information presented in the book to optimize their digital experiences.Listen to the full episode if you want to learn:What ‘Behind the Click’ is aboutWhat heuristics are and why they’re importantHow to ethically use the insights and strategies in the bookWhat phases of the customer journey are included in the bookHow to write books effectively and efficientlyHow to get your copy of ‘Behind the Click’Get your free chapter: http://thegood.com/btc/ If you have questions, ideas, or feedback to share, connect with us on LinkedIn. We're Jon MacDonald and Ryan Garrow.
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Jan 16, 2024 • 21min

Episode 98: How To Turn Your Google Ads Around

The podcast explores challenges with Google Ads due to the shift to GA4 and offers tips to turn things around. Topics discussed include optimizing tracking accuracy, leveraging product feeds, creating attention-grabbing titles, and achieving success with Google Ads through quality data and setting goals.
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Jan 2, 2024 • 19min

Episode 97: You've Got Data! Now What?

Many companies conduct amazing research to understand their customers, but more often than not, this research gets lost and isn’t maximized to its full potential. Quantitative and qualitative data from customer survey results, user testing recordings, and interview transcripts can all lead to important learnings for your organization, so how can you make sure to leverage it? In this Drive and Convert episode, Jon and Ryan discuss actionable steps that you can take to help your future self and your team use the data you collect.Listen to the full episode if you want to learn:How to organize the data you’ve collected How to identify patterns and insights from dataHow to map data observations to areas of your business Which areas you can improve based on dataIf you have questions, ideas, or feedback to share, connect with us on LinkedIn. We're Jon MacDonald and Ryan Garrow.
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Dec 19, 2023 • 30min

Episode 96: Going from WTF to YAY with GA4

Ecommerce businesses are navigating the biggest transition of this year with Google Analytics 4 (GA4). In this D&C episode, Jon and Ryan acknowledge some initial challenges with the platform's interface and data comparisons, but they remain optimistic about its potential. They recommend exploring complementary tools and focusing on trend identification to unlock GA4's full potential. Ultimately, embracing GA4's learning curve and exploring alternatives can empower ecommerce businesses to thrive in the evolving data landscape.Listen to the full episode if you want to learn:The biggest roadblocks businesses face when switching to GA4Why you still need GA4 for your website What data you can get from GA4 that wasn’t available in UAHow to overcome the hurdles of Year-Over-Year analysisWhat alternative tools can support or replace GA4If you have questions, ideas, or feedback to share, connect with us on LinkedIn. We're Jon MacDonald and Ryan Garrow.

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