
Cheaper Than Therapy with Vanessa and Dené
Vanessa Bennett and Dené Logan are two soul sisters and therapists who connected over their shared love of depth psychology—known as the psychology of the soul. It is a template for diving beneath the surface to examine the complex natures of being human while on the quest for wholeness, including the relationship to spirit. Through their training and lived experiences with depth, yogic psychology, and mindfulness, they developed a passion for supporting others in living their most authentic lives while cultivating a fulfilling and rich relationship with the Self, capital “S.”Every Wednesday, Vanessa and Dené look to demystify, de-stigmatize, and desensitize what goes on both inside the therapy room and in daily life, through soul-provoking conversations with fellow seekers, thought leaders, changemakers, and real people during live coaching sessions as they navigate the hard work it takes to be a human.This podcast is, for sure, Cheaper Than Therapy. Follow Cheaper Than TherapyInstagram: @cheaperthantherapypodcastTikTok: @cheaperthantherapypodYouTube: @cheaperthantherapypodcastConnect with Vanessa:Instagram: @vanessasbennettTikTok: @thecodayodaYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@vanessabennettlmft5631 Connect with Dené:Instagram: @dene.loganTikTok: @denelogan------------------------------ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Dec 21, 2022 • 1h
Ep 126 Dipping into the Sugar Jar with Yasmine Cheyenne
Yasmine Cheyenne is a writer, speaker, and self-healing advocate, born and raised in Brooklyn, NY. She helps people create and strengthen their individual self-care practices by teaching them the tools that empower lasting positive changes in their lives. An Air Force Veteran, Yasmine now focuses on her self-healing workshops as well as her writing. Her book, The Sugar Jar: Create Boundaries, Embrace Self-Healing, and Enjoy the Sweet things in Life, is available for preorder and releases on December 27.We sat down to talk with Yasmine about:1. Using self-healing language as a means to making mental health tools accessible, supporting others in understanding themselves, and becoming their own mental health advocates2. Doing the work of unpacking the unspoken layers of perfectionism wounds that exist in marginalized communities 3. How she came to use the metaphor of a sugar jar to describe the beautiful mess called being human we are all attempting to wade our way through Yasmine is an absolute treasure! We know this conversation will make you as excited to read her book as we are! Connect with Yasmine*** Pre-Order her book*** Website*** Instagram*** Facebook*** TwitterIf you love the conversations we’re bringing you as much as we do, please subscribe, rate, and write a review so we can get the podcast out to even more people!*These live coaching sessions are meant for entertainment purposes only and are not to replace therapy.This podcast is, for sure, Cheaper Than Therapy. Follow Cheaper Than Therapy on Instagram Follow VanessaInstagramTikTokYouTube Follow Dené InstagramTikTok------------------------------ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Dec 14, 2022 • 26min
Ep 125 Back in the Dating Pool - Live Coaching Session
In this live coaching session, Dené and Vanessa sat down with Pam to talk about her experience of anxiety within a new relationship after a prolonged period of singlehood.They explore:1. How to cultivate a toolkit for self-soothing some of the inevitable discomforts that comes to the surface when we’re opening ourselves up to love.2. Sitting with the difficult truth that we cannot experience love without vulnerability 3. Why the skills Pam cultivated while she was ‘Single on Purpose’ are still important to carry forward with her into her new relationship.If you love the conversations we’re bringing you as much as we do, please subscribe, rate, and write a review so we can get the podcast out to even more people!Dené and Vanessa also share details about their upcoming New Years Retreat, FROM SELF-ABANDONMENT TO INNER BELONGING: THE INTENSIVE happening in Carefree, Arizona at Civana Wellness Resort and Spa, January 1-6, 2023!*These live coaching sessions are meant for entertainment purposes only and are not to replace therapy.This podcast is, for sure, Cheaper Than Therapy. Follow Cheaper Than Therapy on Instagram Follow VanessaInstagramTikTokYouTube Follow Dené InstagramTikTok------------------------------ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Dec 7, 2022 • 1h 14min
Ep 124 Transmuting Our Trauma with Quentin de Camp
Quentin de Camp is a relationship coach, a therapist, and a healing teacher who’s spent the last decade searching, analysing, learning, and modeling the most efficient techniques and tools for self-development and human psychology. and communication, key success factors and more recently neurosciences, well being in workplace, trauma informed and leadership.He supports others in removing what is holding them back, so they can thrive in what they want to achieve in their lives.We sat down with Quentin to talk about:1. the trouble with attaching labels to our identity 2. what people often get wrong about what it means to be an empath or intuitive 3. understanding the distinction between acceptance and self-abandonment 4. why sometimes high standards can be a way of masking a high level of relational fear.You have to take our word for it when we say, this is definitely an episode you don’t want to miss!Connect with Quentin*** InstagramIf you love the conversations we’re bringing you as much as we do, please subscribe, rate and write a review so we can get the podcast out to even more people!Dené and Vanessa also share details about their upcoming New Years Retreat, FROM SELF-ABANDONMENT TO INNER BELONGING: THE INTENSIVE happening in Carefree, Arizona at Civana Wellness Resort and Spa, January 1-6, 2023!*These live coaching sessions are meant for entertainment purposes only and are not to replace therapy.This podcast is, for sure, Cheaper Than Therapy. Follow Cheaper Than Therapy on Instagram Follow VanessaInstagramTikTokYouTube Follow Dené InstagramTikTok------------------------------ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Nov 30, 2022 • 59min
Ep 123 Pathologizing Relational Needs with Taune Lyons
Taune Lyons is an integrative therapist, writer, and coach in the San Francisco, Bay Area. She specializes in understanding our attachment sounding, intentional relating, sexuality, unraveling our conditioning, and the integration of our painful experiences.We sat down with Taune for an IG LIVE to talk about:1. straddling the line between the “disconnection dance” in relationships and acknowledging the inevitable ways our actions end up impacting those around us2. how we can reframe our relational challenges as learning experiences 3. the ways that “Instagram therapy” often misses the nuance of our relational experiencesConnect with Taune*** Instagram*** Website Dené and Vanessa also share details about their upcoming New Years Retreat, FROM SELF-ABANDONMENT TO INNER BELONGING: THE INTENSIVE happening in Carefree, Arizona at Civana Wellness Resort and Spa, January 1-6, 2023!If you love the conversations we’re bringing you as much as we do, please subscribe, rate and write a 5-star review so we can get the podcast out to even more people!*These live coaching sessions are meant for entertainment purposes only and are not to replace therapy.This podcast is, for sure, Cheaper Than Therapy. Follow Cheaper Than Therapy on Instagram Follow VanessaInstagramTikTokYouTube Follow Dené InstagramTikTok------------------------------ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Nov 23, 2022 • 41min
Ep 122 How We Process Pain
Ep.122 How we process pain In this solo episode, we sat down to unpack some of the feedback we got on one of our recent episodes.We discuss:1. The differentiation between allowing ourselves time to fully feel the most challenging moments in our lives vs letting those moments define us.2. How what we’re grappling with on an individual level is so often mirrored by what we struggle with as a collective3. Our perspectives on how therapy is currently being utilized and how self-help can sometimes turn into one more external source of dependency.Dené and Vanessa also share details about their upcoming New Years Retreat, FROM SELF-ABANDONMENT TO INNER BELONGING: THE INTENSIVE happening in Carefree, Arizona at Civana Wellness Resort and Spa, January 1-6, 2023!If you love the conversations we’re bringing you as much as we do, please subscribe, rate and write a 5-star review so we can get the podcast out to even more people!*These live coaching sessions are meant for entertainment purposes only and are not to replace therapy.This podcast is, for sure, Cheaper Than Therapy. Follow Cheaper Than Therapy on Instagram Follow VanessaInstagramTikTokYouTube Follow Dené InstagramTikTok------------------------------ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Nov 16, 2022 • 39min
Ep 121 Bringing the Focus Back Inward
In this live coaching session, we sat down with Steven to talk about the issues of betrayal and differing levels of desire within a marriage. We explore:how our attachment wounds inevitably start to play out in our adult relationships and how understanding our codependent tendencies becomes the first step we take toward our own healingwhy the people in our lives often start taking us for granted if we’re not treating ourselves with love and respect firstthe importance of maintaining a sense of autonomy - our own interests, communities, and practices of self-care - both inside and outside of a relationshipWe were so grateful to Steven for being so open about a relationship topic that so many of us are grappling with every single day. Dené and Vanessa also share details about their upcoming New Years Retreat, FROM SELF-ABANDONMENT TO INNER BELONGING: THE INTENSIVE happening in Carefree, Arizona at Civana Wellness Resort and Spa, January 1-6, 2023!If you love the conversations we’re bringing you as much as we do, please subscribe, rate and write a 5-star review so we can get the podcast out to even more people!*These live coaching sessions are meant for entertainment purposes only and are not to replace therapy.This podcast is, for sure, Cheaper Than Therapy. Follow Cheaper Than Therapy on Instagram Follow VanessaInstagramTikTokYouTube Follow Dené InstagramTikTok------------------------------ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Nov 9, 2022 • 53min
Ep 120 How to be Loving with Danielle LaPorte
Danielle LaPorte is a member of Oprah’s SuperSoul 100—a group that, in Oprah Winfrey’s words, “is uniquely connecting the world together with a spiritual energy that matters.” The former director of a future studies think tank in Washington, DC, where she managed a team creating global scenarios. She now speaks about the intelligence of the heart. Her most recent book, How To Be Loving… when your heart is breaking open and the world is waking up, is also an audiobook + eBook, with a companion deck and journal. Danielle is also the author of The Fire Starter Sessions, The Desire Map, White Hot Truth, and the producer of dozens of meditation kits and online programs for spiritual support.We sat down with Danielle to explore:1. why feeling fulfilled has nothing to do with your mood and holding love as a state of consciousness2. understanding karma as a way that the Universe brings everything back into balance and not the punishment model we’re taught to think it is3. how our perspective shifts when we start to live in the felt experience that God is in everythingYou can connect with Danielle on social @daniellelaporte or access her heart-centered programs, tune into her unbelievably soulful meditations, or find more information on her newest release, How to be Loving at daniellelaporte.comConnect with Danielle*** Instagram*** Website *** Twitter*** FacebookDené and Vanessa also share details about their upcoming New Years Retreat, FROM SELF-ABANDONMENT TO INNER BELONGING: THE INTENSIVE happening in Carefree, Arizona at Civana Wellness Resort and Spa, January 1-6, 2023!If you love the conversations we’re bringing you as much as we do, please subscribe, rate and write a 5-star review so we can get the podcast out to even more people!*These live coaching sessions are meant for entertainment purposes only and are not to replace therapy.This podcast is, for sure, Cheaper Than Therapy. Follow Cheaper Than Therapy on Instagram Follow VanessaInstagramTikTokYouTube Follow Dené InstagramTikTok------------------------------ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Nov 2, 2022 • 46min
Ep 119 What does it mean to be spiritual?
In this solo episode, Vanessa and Dené hit record on one of their conversations during a recent trip they took to Hawaii. They explore:how each of them has defined their own relationship to spiritualitywhy it might not be helpful to demand perfectionism of ourselves and others when attempting to understand our cultural differenceshow the work of spiritual seeking is ultimately about staying in the space of curiosity and remembering that each of us are always doing the best that we can with our current understanding Dené and Vanessa also share details about their upcoming New Years Retreat, FROM SELF-ABANDONMENT TO INNER BELONGING: THE INTENSIVE happening in Carefree, Arizona at Civana Wellness Resort and Spa, January 1-6, 2023!If you love the conversations we’re bringing you as much as we do, please subscribe, rate, and write a review so we can get the podcast out to even more people!If you love the conversations we’re bringing you as much as we do, please subscribe, rate, and write a review so we can get the podcast out to even more people!*These live coaching sessions are meant for entertainment purposes only and are not to replace therapy.Dené and Vanessa also share details about their upcoming New Years Retreat, FROM SELF-ABANDONMENT TO INNER BELONGING: THE INTENSIVE happening in Carefree, Arizona at Civana Wellness Resort and Spa, January 1-6, 2023!If you love the conversations we’re bringing you as much as we do, please subscribe, rate and write a 5-star review so we can get the podcast out to even more people!This podcast is, for sure, Cheaper Than Therapy. Follow Cheaper Than Therapy on Instagram Follow VanessaInstagramTikTokYouTube Follow Dené InstagramTikTok------------------------------ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Oct 26, 2022 • 1h 12min
Ep 118 Living from Your Deepest Core by Integrating Your Deepest Shadows with Jeremie Lotemo
Jeremie Lotemo is a poet, writer, and coach who utilizes his insights on relational dynamics to help men live from their deepest core. Through his writing, his podcast, 1:1 coaching and building community, Jeremie supports others in the integration of their deepest shadows. We sat down with Jeremie to discuss: 1. The invisible initiation society puts young boys through, where they are socialized to sever their authenticity in an attempt to maintain a sense of acceptance and connection to other men. 2. How women can support the men in their lives by seeing them in the highest vision of who they are, and exchanging the desire to mother them for a practice of allowing compassion and boundaries to exist at the same time. 3. How understanding our partner’s attachment style and wounding can expand our own capacity to lean into moments of discomfort and grow our ability to stand in the fire of our relationships in order to allow something to be purified. 4. Why it’s so important to understand how the mother wound shows up in men, and the ways that it’s impacting so many men’s ability to find fulfillment in their relationships, as well as within themselves.Jeremie’s work offers such powerful insights into what’s underneath so many of the relationship challenges we face. We know you are going to love this conversation as much as we did. You can connect with Jeremie on social @byermeas or hear some more of his incredible wisdom by subscribing to his podcast, Gates of Perception Podcast, available wherever you listen to your podcasts. Be sure to check out his Masterclass, “Life Beyond the Mother Wound,” that begins on November 3rd – you can find some more details about the class on his Instagram page. Connect with Jeremie ***Follow him on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/byermeas/***Listen to “The Gates of Perception” podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/gates-of-perception/id1532617558***Website: https://www.byermeas.com/***Masterclass: https://www.byermeas.com/masterclass-life-beyond-the-mother-woundDené and Vanessa also share details about their upcoming New Years Retreat, FROM SELF-ABANDONMENT TO INNER BELONGING: THE INTENSIVE happening in Carefree, Arizona at Civana Wellness Resort and Spa, January 1-6, 2023!If you love the conversations we’re bringing you as much as we do, please subscribe, rate and write a 5-star review so we can get the podcast out to even more people!*These live coaching sessions are meant for entertainment purposes only and are not to replace therapy.This podcast is, for sure, Cheaper Than Therapy. Follow Cheaper Than Therapy on Instagram Follow VanessaInstagramTikTokYouTube Follow Dené InstagramTikTok------------------------------ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Oct 19, 2022 • 44min
Ep 117 The Rise of the Feminine is Good for All of Us
Cheaper than Therapy is back for Season 3! In this solo episode, Vanessa and Dené talk about what they’ve been up to during the podcast’s hiatus and some of the patterns they’ve noticed coming up lately in conversations. They discuss: 1. What it feels like to be witnessing a massive reclaiming of the feminine energy that the current patriarchal structure of society has conditioned us to suppress. 2. What it means to shift from the practice of looking outside of ourselves for answers to beginning to live a life governed by an inner authority. 3. The shifts we’re seeing collectively in terms of people really starting to question for themselves what will bring an authentic sense of fulfillment – in work, in relationships, and in their lives in general. 4. The idea that some of the changes we’ve been facing as a society have been in service of bringing all of us – regardless of how we identify in terms of gender – in alignment with the reclamation of the feminine.Dené and Vanessa also share details about their upcoming New Years Retreat, FROM SELF-ABANDONMENT TO INNER BELONGING: THE INTENSIVE happening in Carefree, Arizona at Civana Wellness Resort and Spa, January 1-6, 2023!If you love the conversations we’re bringing you as much as we do, please subscribe, rate and write a 5-star review so we can get the podcast out to even more people!*These live coaching sessions are meant for entertainment purposes only and are not to replace therapy.This podcast is, for sure, Cheaper Than Therapy. Follow Cheaper Than Therapy on Instagram Follow VanessaInstagramTikTokYouTube Follow Dené InstagramTikTok------------------------------ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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