
The Trivium China Podcast
Trivium China is an analysis firm that specializes in monitoring Chinese government policy. From our offices in Beijing, Shanghai, and DC, we break down Beijing's latest moves on the economy, technology, energy, climate, and agriculture.
Latest episodes

Jul 5, 2025 • 47min
Ep 31 - The involution will not be televised
Is Beijing finally gearing up to address chronic oversupply – and resulting price wars – in its NEV and other cleantech sectors?Trey McArver joins Trivium China Podcast host Andrew Polk this week to discuss just that question.Specifically, they examine what may be the early signs of a major policy shift – meant to break through the structural causes that keep industries from consolidating and zombie firms from exiting the market.The two discuss:The most recent meeting of the Central Commission for Financial and Economic Affairs – which took direct aim at these issuesOther signs that momentum is building for a more forceful approachThe ongoing challenges that such a policy pivot would faceParallels between this moment and mid-2016 – the last time a significant new macro policy framework was rolled outThe gents also dive into their takeaways from the June Politburo meeting – as the Party looks to better coordinate its top policymaking bodies – and touch briefly on the latest rumors that Xi Jinping is losing his grip on power.Spoiler alert: We don’t buy the rumors. It’s another fun one – so enjoy!

Jun 27, 2025 • 39min
Ep 30 - China preps for demise of US dollar dominance
At the Lujiazui Financial forum in June, central bank (PBoC) Governor Pan Gongsheng gave a speech that we believe redefined Beijing's attitude toward RMB internationalization.Since the policy was launched in 2009, RMB internationalization has been a struggle, with Beijing's commitment to maintaining capital controls making it difficult to claw market share from the dollar.But Pan's comments suggest Beijing thinks things might be about to get easier – with global faith in the dollar starting to erode, countries and companies might soon start looking for viable alternatives.That could create an opportunity for the RMB – as long as China is ready to grab it.In this week's podcast, Trivium Co-founder Andrew Polk and Dinny McMahon, Head of Markets Research, discuss the implications of Pan's comments, and the flurry of recent measures in support of RMB internationalization.

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Jun 20, 2025 • 38min
Ep 29 - Consumer upswings + geopolitical downswings
Ether Yin, Head of policy research at Trivium China, specializes in navigating Chinese government policy, while Joe Mazur leads geopolitical research focusing on U.S.-China relations. They discuss the resurgence of consumer confidence in Beijing, fueled by increased tourism and spending on luxury items. The duo also unpacks the latest challenges in U.S.-China trade talks and the implications of China's geopolitical stance for international relations, particularly in light of G7 dynamics and EU concerns. Tune in for insights that blend economic trends with hot geopolitical takes!

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Jun 6, 2025 • 44min
Ep 28 - Exiting the US-China trade death spiral
Hosts Andrew Polk and Trey McArver break down the recent phone call between Xi Jinping and Donald Trump that revived US-China trade talks. They highlight the critical misunderstandings that almost derailed discussions and explore China's rare earth export controls, revealing their effects on global manufacturing. The conversation also touches on the EU's precarious position in these negotiations and the hope for a lasting trade agreement. Overall, there's cautious optimism as the trade dialogue seems to be improving for now.

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May 30, 2025 • 41min
Ep 27 - Weaponizing supply chains + the real-time breakdown of the Geneva détente
Kendra Schaefer, Trivium China's head of tech policy research, and Ether Yin, head of policy research focusing on China's net zero transition, delve into the recent U.S. export controls on chip technology and their ramifications for China. They discuss the implications of the Trump administration's restrictions on Electronic Design Automation (EDA) tools and potential responses from China. The conversation touches on the challenges for Chinese firms in the semiconductor market, and the strategic maneuvers both countries may take amid escalating trade tensions.

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May 23, 2025 • 54min
Ep 26 - China explores its key points of trade leverage: rare earth export control updates + sanctions threats
Cory Combs, head of critical mineral and supply chain research at Trivium China, dives deep into the intricacies of rare earth export controls and U.S.-China trade dynamics. He discusses China’s recent export license approvals and the unlikely scenario of easing dual-use export restrictions. The conversation touches on the repercussions for U.S. manufacturers and highlights China’s retaliatory tactics against companies compliant with U.S. regulations. Combs emphasizes the fragile state of the 90-day de-escalation and what might disrupt this tentative peace.

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May 16, 2025 • 37min
Ep 25 - Trivium Markets - Trade war ceasefire + export control latest + courting LATAM
Ether Yin, a policy expert based in Shanghai, joins co-founders Andrew Polk and Trey McArver to delve into the recent trade war de-escalation. They explore China's strategic move to issue licenses for critical mineral exports to the U.S., signaling a temporary thaw. The discussion also highlights China's growing ties with Latin America and the implications of these developments on global economic relations. Tune in for insights on trade strategies and the evolving dynamics between superpowers!

May 8, 2025 • 48min
Ep 24 - Trivium Markets - China ramps up economic support + doubling down on exports
It’s been a long time coming, but Beijing is finally ramping up economic support to counter the fallout from tariffs.In this week’s podcast, Trivium Co-founder Andrew Polk and Dinny McMahon, Head of Markets Research, discuss the wave of monetary policy measures rolled out by financial regulators on Wednesday.The gents get into the nitty gritty of China’s financial system – with forays into PBoC relending facilities, provident fund mortgages, and insurance companies’ capital requirements – to explain just what officials hope to achieve.They then round things off with a chat about the latest developments in the US-China trade war, and touch on China’s plan to double down on exports in the years ahead.Enjoy!

May 1, 2025 • 44min
Ep 23 - Trivium Markets and Politics - On Protracted (Trade) War
In this week’s podcast, Trivium co-founders Andrew Polk and Trey McArver examine Beijing’s latest thinking on trade tensions with the US – as both sides settle in for a sustained confrontation. The two discuss:Whether Beijing has Trump’s numberThe shifting narrative on China’s ability to sustain hostilitiesConflicting reports as to whether China and the US are actively negotiatingChina’s patient approach to stimulus – with the recent Politburo meeting opting not to provide additional domestic economic supportThe Politburo study session on AI – and how China is trying to position itself globallyAs always, there’s lots to chew on!

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Apr 15, 2025 • 46min
Ep 22 - The tariffs “have become a joke” + rare earth controls
Cory Combs, Head of supply chain research at Trivium China and expert on critical minerals, joins for an insightful conversation about the evolving U.S.-China trade tensions. He discusses the recent pause in tariff escalations and its potential longevity, emphasizing that a stalemate is better than more drastic measures. The talk then shifts to China's strategic export controls on rare earth elements, revealing their significance for global supply chains and national security. Combs shares the implications for companies navigating these turbulent waters.