The Marketing Misfits

What does it take to build a million-dollar online business before you turn 18? In this episode of Marketing Misfits, Norm Farrar and Kevin King sit down with Makenna Riley, entrepreneur and co-founder of GSD, to break down how she started making money online at 12 years old, launched profitable businesses during COVID, and helped her mom, infomercial legend Forbes Riley, pivot online when the world shut down. This is not a hype story. Makenna walks through the exact sequence of skills, mindset, marketing systems, and execution that turned webinars, funnels, and paid ads into real revenue, fast. If you care about online business, funnels, Meta ads, selling knowledge, building systems, or scaling without formal education, this episode is packed with practical insight. What You’ll Learn: - How Makenna made six figures by 17 and hit $1M before 18 - The webinar that closed $25,000 with just 25 attendees - Why beginners often outperform “experts” - How she learned funnels, ads, and marketing at 12 years old - Why most people fail after buying courses - The real difference between feeling productive and producing results - Why websites don’t convert (and what works instead) - How to structure funnels, offers, and product pipelines - The biggest mistakes people make with thank-you pages - Why low-ticket offers beat “free” - How Meta ads still scale fast when done right - How to build a business without college or formal training - What actually separates successful students from everyone else 📚 Chapters00:00 Early Business Start04:20 Internet Exposure09:03 Marketing College14:17 Millionaire Goal18:30 GSD Company Launch23:47 No Formal Training27:57 Passion for Business33:17 GSD Launchpad Training37:24 GSD Launchpad Goal41:40 GSD vs ClickFunnels46:12 Confidence & Success50:15 Client Success Story55:16 Marketing Diversify01:01:26 Marketing Mistakes ‍️01:05:18 Email Marketing Power01:09:31 Russell Brunson's Work01:15:51 Marketing Misfits OutroGuest Makenna Riley Entrepreneur | Funnel Builder | Co-Founder of GSD Website: https://gsdyourbusiness.com Instagram: @themakennariley About Marketing Misfits Marketing Misfits features unfiltered conversations with founders, marketers, and operators who built real businesses by testing, failing, and executing — not following trends. Hosted by Norm Farrar and Kevin King.This episode is brought to you by: - Sellerboard: https://sellerboard.com/misfits - House of AMZ: Elevate your brand today at https://www.amazonseo.com/ - 8fig: Get 25% off 8fig off at https://8fig.co - Stack Influence: Use code MISFITS for 10% off at https://stackinfluence.com/ - Levanta: Get 20% off Levanta's gold plan and book your call today - https://get.levanta.io/misfitsHosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

What happens when you lose your money, your health, and almost your life — all at once? In this episode of Marketing Misfits, Norm Farrar and Kevin King sit down with Ingrid Macher, a fitness entrepreneur and global influencer who went from being broke, overweight, and facing a near-death asthma attack… to losing 50 pounds in 90 days and building a multi-million-dollar wellness business serving millions worldwide. This is not a surface-level influencer story. Ingrid breaks down the exact mindset shift, health reset, and marketing strategy that changed everything — and why most people fail to grow an audience or business even when they have “followers.” If you care about organic growth, paid ads that actually work, audience building, fitness transformation, or monetizing influence, this episode delivers real lessons. What You’ll Learn - How Ingrid lost 50 pounds in 90 days and kept it off for 14 years - The near-death moment that forced a complete life reset - Why most people fail at weight loss and content creation - How losing everything in the 2008 crash led to her biggest opportunity - The real difference between followers and buyers - Why you only need 1,000 raving fans to build a million-dollar business - How Ingrid built massive reach organically on Facebook and beyond - When to use paid ads — and why boosting organic winners works best - How TikTok Shop is changing monetization right now - Why knowing your avatar matters more than going viral - The hidden opportunity in underserved markets (especially Spanish-speaking audiences) - How fitness, family, faith, and finances all connect to long-term success Chapters 00:00 Introduction 02:05 Guest Introduction: Ingrid Macher 08:09 Ingrid's Journey to America 10:54 Overcoming Challenges 13:31 The Turning Point 15:36 Transforming Health and Fitness 18:14 Maintaining Weight Loss 33:50 Becoming a Wellness Influencer 34:32 A Million Dollar Product Idea 36:04 Entering the Info Product Industry 37:09 Building a Social Media Presence 38:08 Organic Growth and Marketing Strategies 43:34 The Power of Community and Faith 48:05 Adapting to Social Media Changes 56:08 Final Thoughts and Reflections Ingrid Macher Fitness entrepreneur, author (7 books), global wellness leader Instagram (English): @ingridmacherofficial About Marketing Misfits Marketing Misfits features real conversations with founders, operators, and creators who built businesses the hard way — through failure, pivots, and unconventional strategies. This episode is brought to you by: - Sellerboard: https://sellerboard.com/misfits - House of AMZ: Elevate your brand today at https://www.amazonseo.com/ - 8fig: Get 25% off 8fig off at https://8fig.co - Stack Influence: Use code MISFITS for 10% off at https://stackinfluence.com/ - Levanta: Get 20% off Levanta's gold plan and book your call today - https://get.levanta.io/misfits Hosted by Norm Farrar and Kevin King.Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

Matt McGarry, a newsletter expert and founder of Newsletter Operator, shares insights on why newsletters are the ultimate tool for creators seeking trust and monetization. He discusses the pivotal differences between newsletters and marketing emails, emphasizing value-first strategies. Learn how to build a loyal subscriber base, the importance of consistency, and why small unsubscribe rates are acceptable. Matt also reveals effective tactics for segmenting your audience and working with AI, making email a profitable business venture.

In this episode of Marketing Misfits, we break down why podcasting is becoming one of the most powerful trust-building tools in the age of AI and how brands can use it to stand out instead of blending into AI sameness. Our guest Eric Ryan went from LinkedIn Live to a cable TV show, built a 19-person podcast production team, and developed a framework for becoming “niche famous” so clients come to you. We dig into: • Why most podcasts die after 7 episodes • How to turn a podcast into a client-acquisition machine • Why you must be omnipresent to win in 2025 • How AI is destroying bad content and elevating real voices • The exact formats, lengths, and clip strategies that perform best • Why “don’t be gentle with your list” is the most important marketing advice you’ll hear • The truth about going viral on TikTok, LinkedIn, and YouTube Shorts • How to become niche-famous (not Joe Rogan famous) and still print money • The #1 thing that separates successful podcasters from quitters If you're building a personal brand, running an agency, launching a show, or trying to build authority online, this episode gives you the playbook. Timestamps 00:00 Why Eric Started a Podcast to Get Clients 01:52 Why Most Creators Fail at Email + Podcasting 03:10 Competing With the Entire Internet (Not Your Industry) 05:12 “Podcasting Makes You Famous” 07:44 Becoming Niche Famous 09:20 How Eric’s LinkedIn Show Led to Cable TV 12:52 Land High-Value Clients 15:31 Editing + Distribution 17:44 Authority vs. Views 21:40 Why TikTok Is Beating Every Platform 24:20 Holding Creators Back 26:10 Being Actually Interesting 28:30 Why Most Interviews Are Terrible 32:18 Building a Multi-Platform Content Engine 35:44 Consistency vs. Perfection 38:05 How Long Should a Podcast Really Be? 41:22 Cutting Content Into Clips That Actually Perform 44:58 Managing Expectations: What “Success” Really Looks Like 49:10 The Hidden Work Nobody Talks About 53:12 The One Strategy Eric Says Will Make You Stand Out 56:40 Should Everyone Start a Podcast in 2025? 59:02 Final Takeaway: Be Different or Be Invisible This episode is brought to you by: - Sellerboard: https://sellerboard.com/misfits - House of AMZ: Elevate your brand today at https://www.amazonseo.com/ - 8fig: Get 25% off 8fig off at https://8fig.co - Stack Influence: Use code MISFITS for 10% off at https://stackinfluence.com/ - Levanta: Get 20% off Levanta's gold plan and book your call today - https://get.levanta.io/misfitsHosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

Kian Golzari, a sourcing and product development expert, dives into the intricacies of global supply chains and tariffs. He shares thrilling tales of sourcing 24k gold iPhones for football stars and reveals his insider tips for legally cutting costs on tariffs. Kian emphasizes the crucial 'China +1' manufacturing strategy and warns about common pitfalls that Kickstarter creators face. Plus, learn why entrepreneurs are flocking to Dubai for tax benefits and safety, making it a hotspot for innovative business ventures.

Join Marley Jaxx, a YouTube strategist and filmmaker known for her viral wedding ticket stunt, as she dives into the secrets of captivating videos. She reveals the power of hooks and open loops to retain viewers and shares her journey from dental hygienist to YouTube creator. Marley discusses her groundbreaking ticketed wedding event, highlighting community building and the importance of authenticity over perfection. Learn how to thrive amidst trolls and navigate the evolving landscape of online content!

Lutz Finger, an AI expert and Cornell faculty, dives into the rapid evolution of e-commerce and branding due to AI. He warns that relying on Amazon can lead brands to extinction and unveils 'Generative Engine Optimization' as the future of ranking in search results. Lutz discusses the pitfalls of AI-generated content and emphasizes the importance of building real human communities for marketing success. He also sheds light on the transformative impact of OpenAI’s partnership with Walmart and advises brands on essential strategies to remain competitive.

Mike Jackness, a former e-commerce titan and now the creator of Desert Degens, dives into his surprising transition to a YouTube gambling channel. He explains why he sold his Amazon brands, predicting future market challenges. Listeners learn about his innovative content strategy, including daily videos and engaging fans, particularly women over 50 who drive views. Jackness reveals how to effectively monetize through YouTube RPMs, merchandise, and sponsorships, while emphasizing the importance of owning your audience for sustainable growth.

Peter Kostandenou, a tech entrepreneur and founder of Mopro, shares his wild journey from flipping PlayStations to building AI-driven marketing tools. He discusses how his accidental TikTok fame as a sleeping DJ boosted his brand, alongside scaling Hostopia from $3M to $60M. Peter explains why real reviews are vital for local businesses, introduces the concept of Generative Engine Optimization for future SEO, and reveals strategies for managing online reputation. His insights into the evolving landscape of small business marketing and AI readiness are must-hears for entrepreneurs.

In this episode of Marketing Misfits, documentary filmmaker and storytelling expert Rain Bennett joins Norm Farrar and Kevin King to unpack why authentic storytelling is more valuable than ever. With AI flooding content channels, your voice and human emotion are what set your brand apart. Rain shares: - The power of short-form storytelling (and what a 6-second story actually looks like) - Why over-leveraging AI will make your brand blend in - How storytelling builds trust, connection, and conversions - Frameworks to write more compelling brand stories - Real examples from marketing, newsletters, and public speaking - The truth about AI-generated content and how to use it right Whether you're launching an e-commerce brand, growing your newsletter, building a personal brand, or pitching on stage , storytelling is the skill that cuts through the noise. ⚠️ Don’t let AI strip your voice away. Learn how to inject your story back into your content strategy today. 📘 Guest: Rain Bennett - Author of Six Second Stories - Host of The Storytelling Lab Podcast - Creator of award-winning documentaries Learn more: rainbennett.com 🎧 Listen. Learn. Misfit. Chapter 00:00 The Power of Storytelling in the AI Era 00:49 Introduction to Marketing Misfits 00:55 Kevin's College Football Anecdote 02:34 The Role of Storytelling in Marketing 03:13 Introducing Rain Bennett 04:55 Rain Bennett's Journey into Storytelling09:00 The Evolution of Documentary Filmmaking 11:13 The Importance of Human Touch in Storytelling 16:12 The Art of Engaging Storytelling 30:48 The Six-Second Story Concept 36:42 Brand Storytelling and Authenticity 38:04 Serial vs. Episodic Shows 38:20 The Art of Storytelling in Branding 39:46 The Importance of Origin Stories 40:33 Storytelling for the Audience 44:19 The Ice Cream Anecdote 46:54 Effective Storytelling Techniques 56:01 Engaging Your Audience with Stories 59:27 The Power of Practice This episode is brought to you by: - Sellerboard: https://sellerboard.com/misfits - House of AMZ: Elevate your brand today at https://www.amazonseo.com/ - 8fig: Get 25% off 8fig off at https://8fig.co - Stack Influence: Use code MISFITS for 10% off at https://stackinfluence.com/ - Levanta: Get 20% off Levanta's gold plan and book your call today - https://get.levanta.io/misfitsHosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.