
That Relationship Show
The Couch offers an opportunity to hear experienced marriage counselors share what they've learned from decades of working with couples. If you and your partner are disconnected, unable to talk without arguing or wondering if you can save your relationship, Deb and Nao can help. Their warm, engaging way of talking about EFT can offer hope when all seems lost in your relationship.
Latest episodes

Jan 1, 2022 • 1h 4min
Toxic Relationships
Deb & Nao discuss what makes a relationship healthy, unhealthy or toxic. Whether it's a romantic, friendship or parent/adult child duo, they offer tips for knowing when it's time to to dig in and work harder, set boundaries or just say "goodbye."

Dec 1, 2021 • 1h 10min
A Couples Guide to Yummy Sex
Psychologist and sexuality expert Dr Aline Zoldbrod joins us to explain why mercy sex should be kicked to the curb, how body mapping can help us and our partner find what we like, and why setting a date for sex can keep us connected even through the toughest of times.

Nov 1, 2021 • 1h 13min
Love in Times of Struggle
EFT Trainer and Psychologist Sharon Chatkupt Lee joins us to talk about the world we find ourselves in--as individuals, couples, and EFT therapists struggling to be better and do better. She offers suggestions for navigating our way in these challenging times.

Oct 1, 2021 • 1h 25min
Identity, Ethnicity and Couples: A Complex Equation
EFT Trainer and author Dr. Paul Guillory joins us to discuss his new book: EFT With African American Couples: Love Heals. He explains the many factors that go into racial identity, and how they can leave us "primed for negative" or more flexible. He emphasizes the importance of practicing cultural humility.

Sep 1, 2021 • 1h 2min
Beyond Addiction
Dr. Nicole Kosanke, researcher and Director of Family Services at The Center for Motivation and Change joins us to discuss cutting edge research on the treatment of addiction. She shares what she's learned about how brains change, and offers help for family members who want to be supportive yet still take care of themselves.

Jul 30, 2021 • 1h 5min
Sex With Dr. Lexx
Sexologist, author, educator and therapist Dr. Lexx Brown-James joins us for a lively discussion about sex, identity and healing from sexual shame to get back to pleasure in our physical relationships.

Jul 1, 2021 • 1h 3min
The Dating Episode
Dating Coach extraordinaire Cora Boyd joins us to offer tips on everything from putting your authentic foot forward on dating apps to the art of flirting. Based on her years as a matchmaker and thousands of interviews, she offers a fun and hopeful lens to those who are looking for a great relationship or just a great date.

Jun 28, 2021 • 48min
The Ultimate Self-Help Guide
Therapist, author and researcher Deirdre Fay joins us to offer practical advice for helping yourself through life's most difficult and painful moments. With decades of experience she guides us with tangible tips to organize our minds, bodies and hearts, and move more securely in the world--no matter what comes our way.

May 15, 2021 • 1h 17min
Betrayals in Relationships
EFT Trainer Dr. Lisa Palmer-Olsen shares her expertise in helping couples who want to heal after a betrayal. She names some blocks to repair, and explains how she learned the importance of therapist self-awareness in developing her remarkable skills.

Apr 18, 2021 • 1h 17min
Forgiveness- Part 2
Stanford Professor & Forgiveness researcher Fred Luskin joins us to offer practical tips for achieving peace of mind after we've been deeply wounded. From Monica Lewinsky to Northern Ireland, he shares his own journey that led to creating the most comprehensive research project on the process of forgiveness.