
That Relationship Show
The Couch offers an opportunity to hear experienced marriage counselors share what they've learned from decades of working with couples. If you and your partner are disconnected, unable to talk without arguing or wondering if you can save your relationship, Deb and Nao can help. Their warm, engaging way of talking about EFT can offer hope when all seems lost in your relationship.
Latest episodes

Nov 1, 2022 • 1h 6min
Healing CEN in Relationships
Dr. Jonice Webb is back to help us understand how Childhood Emotional Neglect shows up in relationships, and what can be done to heal it. Whether with yourself, your partner, your child or your parent, she has tips for how to have productive conversations about CEN.

Oct 1, 2022 • 56min
Parenting Tips for Emotion Regulation
One of the most important tasks for anyone to learn is to manage and regulate their emotions--yet this is not widely taught. Carly Soare, Certified Speech & Language Pathologist and Executive Function Coach joins us to offer her wisdom on how to help children become emotionally aware and adept.

Sep 1, 2022 • 1h 2min
How People Change
When we decide to change ingrained ways of behaving or learn new skills, there are many obstacles that can derail us. This applies to athletes, musicians, clients and therapists alike. Wesley Little, certified EFT therapist and supervisor joins us to discuss how Deliberate Practice can help us manage the process to keep our growth on track.

Aug 1, 2022 • 1h 13min
Betrayals & Other Violations of Trust
A betrayal by a trusted person can leave us feeling crazy and unable to find our footing. EFT Supervisor Kelly Bourque,LMFT shares what she's learned about healing after a betrayal and offers hope for re-building safety.

Jul 1, 2022 • 58min
Communication Skills for Secure Love
Author and EFT therapist Julie Menanno shares the communication skills that made her an Instagram phenom. With her clear and unassuming style, she shows us how to navigate the tricky places that block connection.

Jun 1, 2022 • 1h 4min
Life After Love
Psychologist Clare Rosomon joins us to discuss healing after relationship loss. Her new book uses an attachment lens to explore and bring healing from anger, pain and grief.

May 15, 2022 • 1h 13min
Sex and Attachment: Deepening the Bonds
Dr. Laurie Watson takes a break from co-hosting the popular podcast Foreplay to talk with us about the intersection of sexual and emotional connection for couples. With her frank and engaging style, she shares what she's learned over three decades to help build empathy even for those couples who feel miles apart when talking about sex.

Apr 10, 2022 • 1h 6min
Healing from Religious Harm
Psychologist, author and religious trauma expert Marlene Winell joins us to discuss the impact of fundamentalist religiosity on individuals and relationships. She offers hope for healing and finding joy in this life.

Mar 26, 2022 • 1h 20min
EMDR & EFT: Powerhouses of Healing
Internationally renowned EMDR trainer and therapist Deany Laliotis, LICSW joins Deb & Nao to talk about the powerful healing that EMDR can provide. We talk about the intersection of EMDR and EFT, the importance of attachment and the value of paying it forward.

Feb 1, 2022 • 1h 12min
Parents & Teens: Repairing the Bonds
Drs. Nancy & Paul Aiken share their programs designed to help repair and strengthen the bonds between parents and kids. With warmth & humor, they share clips from an actual family, offering hope for anyone struggling to reach their teen.