
That Relationship Show
The Couch offers an opportunity to hear experienced marriage counselors share what they've learned from decades of working with couples. If you and your partner are disconnected, unable to talk without arguing or wondering if you can save your relationship, Deb and Nao can help. Their warm, engaging way of talking about EFT can offer hope when all seems lost in your relationship.
Latest episodes

Sep 4, 2023 • 1h 21min
The One About Family Addiction
When a loved one struggles with addiction, family members become involved. But attempts to fix, manage or control leave everyone hurting. Join us for a riveting conversation with Family Addiction Specialist Margaret Swift Thompson as she offers guidance for navigating these difficult waters.

Aug 1, 2023 • 1h 14min
Life on the Spectrum
Diagnosed with an Autism Spectrum Disorder in adulthood, high school dropout John Elder Robison went on to become a successful business owner, best-selling author and neurodiversity scholar. Join us for this poignant and moving conversation about his life on the spectrum.

Jul 1, 2023 • 1h 7min
Maintaining Connection While Raising Kids
Dr. Jordan Harris, LMFT joins us to discuss tips for couples to protect their bond while raising healthy, resilient children. With compassion and honesty he acknowledges how difficult modern parenting is, using his own experiences as a husband and father of three young children.

Jun 1, 2023 • 58min
Adult ADHD in Relationships
Deb & Nao welcome from Switzerland ADHD experts and EFT therapists Alexine Thompson-De Benoit and Ben Kneubühler. With their personal experiences and years of expertise, they share what they've learned about adult ADHD in relationships.

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May 1, 2023 • 51min
Healing & Reclaiming The Self
Reclaiming a loving connection to one's core self is pivotal for all other relationships, and paves the way for joy and connection. Psychologist and author SueAnne Piliero, developer of Core Self Reclamation Therapy joins us to share what's she's learned about this powerful process.

Apr 1, 2023 • 59min
The Secrets of Contented Couples
Deb & Nao welcome from the UK fellow therapist and author Anne Power to talk about her research on what the common factors are in contented couples. When the initial rush of falling in love subsides, how do we get to the lasting comfort of deep abiding love? Join us to find out.

Mar 1, 2023 • 1h 4min
Resilience
In this uplifting episode, expert Linda Graham, LMFT shares what she's learned about resilience--why it matters, how our brains are wired for it and what individuals (and communities) can do to cultivate it and thrive, even when the road gets rough.

Feb 1, 2023 • 1h 8min
Dopamine Nation
We take a deep dive inside the brain's reward center with Dr. Anna Lembke, physician-researcher and NYT best selling author to understand how addiction changes the brain. Join us for this enlightening episode and discover why a dopamine fast might be just the ticket to regain balance.

Dec 31, 2022 • 1h 20min
Letting Go of Childhood Wounds/Finding Your Place in Adulthood
Daniel Mate, co-author and son of Gabor joins us for a frank and engaging look at how adult children can learn to let go of injuries inflicted by their parents, and come to a place of authenticity and strength. Using his own complicated relationship with his famous father, he offers wisdom and hope for healing and growth.

Dec 1, 2022 • 53min
The Externalizer, The Over-Explainer and The Folder
Deb and Nao describe three common behaviors that fuel the negative cycle when we're triggered, and offer tips for change. By recognizing and exiting these modes, we are more likely to find the reassurance, comfort and connection that we need.