
Run the Numbers
Run the Numbers is a twice-weekly podcast about financial metrics and business models, designed for ambitious people operating tech startups. It's a collection of things host CJ Gustafson (CFO at Partstech and writer of Mostly Metrics) has learned and thought about in the trenches as a tech CFO.
This show is meant to serve as a playbook of sorts for the stuff CJ wishes he knew earlier in his career, both from experience and from copying people smarter than himself.
Topics frequently touch upon Startup SaaS Metrics, Annual Budgeting, Financial Forecasting, Headcount, Equity, Dilution, and Fundraising – and how all of these drive business performance and growth. www.mostlymetrics.com
Latest episodes

Jan 20, 2025 • 52min
"Be Interesting" and Other Unconventional Finance Career Advice from CFO Jeff Cassidy
Jeff Cassidy, CFO of Prodigy Education, has a fascinating career spanning finance, biotech, and more. He shares unconventional advice on prioritizing personal fit over credentials in hiring. Jeff discusses building strong teams through ambition and skill, particularly during the challenges of the pandemic. He critiques the traditional college system, advocating for practical skills and diverse experiences. Additionally, he emphasizes the importance of empathy in financial management, especially in supplier relations and team dynamics.

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Jan 16, 2025 • 59min
“Your budget is counter-productive” — Michiel Boere, CFO of Remote
Michiel Boere, CFO of Remote, shares his expertise in building global companies and revolutionary approaches to budgeting. He discusses the benefits of remote work, enhancing equity in the job market and managing international finance complexities. Michiel critiques traditional budgeting, advocating for flexibility that better aligns with actual company needs. He also shares insights on risk management, unit economics, and the importance of fostering a positive workplace culture to retain talent.

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Jan 13, 2025 • 1h 11min
A Masterclass with the Michael Jordan of B2C Subscription, Reid DeRamus
Reid DeRamus, a media and tech executive with experience at Hulu and HBO Max, shares insider insights on B2C subscription strategies. He discusses navigating price increases and their impact on customer retention and acquisition. Reid highlights the importance of effective communication around pricing changes and pitfalls of discounting. He introduces the concept of 'elevating the cohort floor' for retention and examines the delicate balance between subscription and ad revenue. Unique monetization lessons from platforms like OnlyFans are also explored.

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Jan 9, 2025 • 57min
“Most Decisions Are Reversible” – A Masterclass in Decision Making with Zapier’s Ryan Roccon
Ryan Roccon, CFO of Zapier, shares insights on the art of financial storytelling and how it connects complex data to company strategy. He emphasizes that most decisions are reversible, advocating for a culture of transparency in remote teams. Roccon discusses tailoring narratives for different audiences and simplifying metrics through analogies. He also addresses the unique challenges faced by a bootstrapped, remote-first company and the importance of collaboration and effective decision-making frameworks that foster organizational buy-in.

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Jan 6, 2025 • 1h 5min
The Best Ever Answer to Build Versus Buy, and Other Wisdom from Matt Hudson of Coda
Matt Hudson, CFO of Coda and former product manager at Google and YouTube, dives into fascinating insights from his diverse career. He introduces the 'Vacation Rule' to tackle the build versus buy dilemma and discusses innovative frameworks like the Blue and Black Loop for product growth. Hudson also explores Coda's pricing evolution, emphasizing community-driven strategies and the balance between product-led and sales-led growth. He shares valuable lessons on collaborating with product managers and the impact of luck and failure on success.

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Jan 2, 2025 • 54min
So You’re Looking for a “Strategic” CFO? Bloomerang’s Steve Isom on What That Really Means
Steve Isom, CFO of Bloomerang, dives into the evolving role of the strategic CFO. He emphasizes the vital connection between finance and people, reminding us that finance shouldn't just be a math problem. Discussing the importance of proactive leadership, he shares insights on effectively bridging gaps between metrics and human interaction. Steve also recounts his rapid transaction readiness during Flywheel's unexpected acquisition. Plus, he offers stellar advice on building a dynamic finance team and fostering collaboration across departments.

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Dec 26, 2024 • 50min
“Annual Planning Is So Last Year” – Ross Grainger, CFO of Paradox, on What He Does Instead
Ross Grainger, CFO of Paradox, shares his unconventional career journey and emphasizes the importance of work-life integration over balance. He explains why the corporate ladder resembles a jungle gym, highlighting the value of lateral moves for career advancement. Grainger discusses the need for strong relationships across departments, particularly in finance, and shares his skepticism towards annual planning, advocating for dynamic financial strategies. His insights on expanding internationally and investing in team relationships provide a fresh perspective for tech companies.

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Dec 23, 2024 • 45min
Mitigating Churn: A Masterclass in Customer Retention with Will Cureton, CFO of Nitrogen Wealth
Will Cureton, CFO of Nitrogen Wealth, shares his expertise in customer retention from a wealth management software perspective. He discusses how a major price increase misstep prompted a reassessment of growth strategies, exploring total addressable market and sustainable business lines. Will reveals key metrics for predicting churn and formulates a churn score essential for retaining customers. He also delves into the innovative risk tolerance features of their platform that enhance client engagement while navigating the complexities of today’s market.

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Dec 19, 2024 • 46min
The ROI of OKRs (and Advice on Building Analytics Teams) with Sisense CFO Alyssa Shadinger
Alyssa Shadinger, CFO of Sisense and a leader in analytics, shares her insights on building effective analytics teams and mastering OKRs. She discusses optimal team structures and the significance of data governance for accurate reporting. Alyssa dives into the challenges of linking OKRs to financial outcomes and the necessity of collaboration across departments. The conversation also touches on empowering teams through business intelligence while maintaining the balance of self-service and oversight. An enlightening discussion for anyone in finance or data analytics!

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Dec 16, 2024 • 54min
16 P&Ls: The CFO’s Guide to M&A Operational Complexity with Dotmatics’ Rebeca Sanchez Sarmiento
Rebeca Sanchez Sarmiento, CFO of Dotmatics and a pro in managing operational complexity, shares her wealth of experience with mergers and acquisitions. She reveals strategies for overseeing 16 P&Ls while striking the right balance between autonomy and integration. The talk dives into her forecasting frameworks and whether to embrace an 80/20 approach. Plus, Rebeca opens up about her career journey, the shift to remote work, and how these elements shape contemporary financial leadership.